Cont: Musk buys Twitter II

KDLarsen said:
It would be amusing how much fake news musky himself is spreading on xitter, if it wasn't so dangerous.


Futurism: Elon Musk Tweets Plagiarized Article Bylined by Fake Writer

He often deletes the post, but only after an awful lot of people have already seen it. A recent one, in which he retweeted a post by the leader of far right Britain First, which featured a fake headline from the Daily Telegraph, claiming that Keir Starmer was planning detention camps in the Falklands, reached 1.8 million views before it was deleted.
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A little further digging through the Futurism articles on Galaxy Brain reveals this article about historian Arthur Herman's demands to appoint Galaxy Brain to head NASA. Looking at Herman's wikipedia entry it's no surprise that he's a proponent of the long discredited "Great" man assertion of some 19th century historians.
 
Musk's X suspended in Brazil after ruling by judge

A Brazilian Supreme Court judge has ordered the "immediate and complete suspension" of Elon Musk's X, formerly Twitter, in the country.

In a statement, Alexandre de Moraes said the social media platform will be banned until X complies with all court orders and pays existing fines.

Justice Moraes, who has been involved in a long-running row with X, had given the social media platform 24 hours to name a new legal representative or face suspension, with a deadline of Thursday evening.

The platform is expected to be unavailable in the country within the next 24 hours.

Justice Moraes has given companies such as Apple and Google a five-day deadline to remove X from its application stores.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y3rnl5qv3o
 
Andy_Ross said:
Musk's X suspended in Brazil after ruling by judge

A Brazilian Supreme Court judge has ordered the "immediate and complete suspension" of Elon Musk's X, formerly Twitter, in the country.

In a statement, Alexandre de Moraes said the social media platform will be banned until X complies with all court orders and pays existing fines.

Justice Moraes, who has been involved in a long-running row with X, had given the social media platform 24 hours to name a new legal representative or face suspension, with a deadline of Thursday evening.

The platform is expected to be unavailable in the country within the next 24 hours.

Justice Moraes has given companies such as Apple and Google a five-day deadline to remove X from its application stores.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y3rnl5qv3o
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Is it worth noting the differences here with Turkey (and elsewhere)? Or the similarities?

In both cases, Musk seems to have chosen the anti-free speech option, after all. If he's only making a stand in favor of protecting speech that promotes far right violence and falsehoods crafted to help the far right, that's not some noble stance, regardless of whether the judge is overstepping or not. If Musk is pointedly acting to try to use X as a political weapon to support the anti-free speech far right in democracies and also immediately complying with the demands of authoritarian governments under far lesser threats, then Musk's pretense with regards to Brazil is all the more contemptible.

Dorsey's stance of only having restrictions in place for business reasons was waaaay better than Elon's destructive and dishonest political crusade.
 
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Aridas said:
Is it worth noting the differences here with Turkey (and elsewhere)? Or the similarities?

In both cases, Musk seems to have chosen the anti-free speech option, after all. If he's only making a stand in favor of protecting speech that promotes far right violence and falsehoods crafted to help the far right, that's not some noble stance, regardless of whether the judge is overstepping or not. If Musk is pointedly acting to try to use X as a political weapon to support the anti-free speech far right in democracies and also immediately complying with the demands of authoritarian governments under far lesser threats, then Musk's pretense with regards to Brazil is all the more contemptible.

Dorsey's stance of only having restrictions in place for business reasons was waaaay better than Elon's destructive and dishonest political crusade.
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He could have been consistent on this if he had chosen.

In fact, people criticized him for taking down posts that the Turkish and Indian governments wanted him to take down. That was fair.

He answered that he abides by the laws of the country that he is operating in, etc...

Yet, when it comes to places like Germany or Brazil, he has been extremely hostile towards governments there who say the content on the site breaks the law and should be removed.

If he had been similarly hostile to the Turkish or Indian censors, then I think it would have been fair for him to claim free speech advocacy.

But there is a noticeable pattern that he is obsequieous to right-wing authoritarians and hostile to those he perceives as left-wing authoritarians.
 
angrysoba said:
He could have been consistent on this if he had chosen.

In fact, people criticized him for taking down posts that the Turkish and Indian governments wanted him to take down. That was fair.

He answered that he abides by the laws of the country that he is operating in, etc...

Yet, when it comes to places like Germany or Brazil, he has been extremely hostile towards governments there who say the content on the site breaks the law and should be removed.

If he had been similarly hostile to the Turkish or Indian censors, then I think it would have been fair for him to claim free speech advocacy.

But there is a noticeable pattern that he is obsequieous to right-wing authoritarians and hostile to those he perceives as pretends are left-wing authoritarians.
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And yes, he certainly could have been consistent. That's he's not been is just yet another clear point of evidence that he's trying to pull a con with this crap.
 
From Mastodon:
@eris@yourwalls.today
"For context Brazil only just left a dictatorship in 1985 as a result of a coup, a lot of people in Brazilian leadership were alive then and lived through it for 21 years.

The country's entire legal system is currently designed around preventing that from happening again. Musk refusing to participate in the investigation of the coup attempt by Bolsanaro fans is why X is banned. If you think that's about muh freeze peach you lack full historical context."



https://theworld.org/stories/2024/04/01/brazil-remembers-1964-coup-and-victims-dictatorship
 
A list of other countries that have banned or highly restricted VPNs, you know, for the sake of "muh democracy."

Belarus: VPNs and other anonymizing technologies are banned. Using a VPN can result in fines.

Iraq: There is a full ban on VPNs, with no exceptions for individuals or businesses.

North Korea: VPNs are illegal, and the government monitors internet activity closely.

Turkmenistan: VPNs are illegal, and the government strictly controls internet access.

Myanmar: The military government has restricted internet access severely and proposed laws to ban VPNs.

China: Only government-approved VPNs are allowed. Unauthorized use can result in fines or other penalties.

Russia: VPNs must comply with government regulations, including blocking access to certain sites.

Iran: Only government-approved VPNs are legal. Unauthorized use can lead to imprisonment.

Turkey: VPNs are legal but heavily restricted, often justified as measures to combat terrorism.

United Arab Emirates (UAE): VPNs are regulated and cannot be used for illegal activities, such as accessing restricted VoIP services.

Oman: VPN use is illegal for individuals unless approved by the government. Violations can result in fines.

Egypt: While not illegal, using VPNs to access blocked content can lead to fines or jail time.

Uganda: VPNs are blocked to prevent bypassing the social media tax.
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https://www.trustedinternet.io/blog/global-guide-to-vpn-usage
 
Bogative said:
A list of other countries that have banned or highly restricted VPNs, you know, for the sake of "muh democracy."
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Okay. Are there any other special points that you want to highlight? Or does this boil down to nothing more than an attempted diversion and distraction from Musk's rather pronounced inconsistency when it comes to the principles that he loudly pretends to care about and how his actions sure seem to make an utter mockery of those principles?

Supporting Musk acting to sabotage democracies and support authoritarian governments isn't exactly some shining beacon to hold onto when trying to pretend that one supports democracy and opposes authoritarianism, after all.
 
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Darat said:
But many of the countries you list are not democracies?
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Most of them have at least some pretense to democracy, though. North Korea has elections and engages in some democracy rhetoric, for example, even if they're a mockery of actual elections and democracy.

Bogative is trying to pretend that Brazil's being just like them and just as bad, seemingly in an effort to pretend that Brazil's THE bad guy here and that we need not pay attention to the situation as a whole. A convenient, albeit dishonest tactic when trying to avoid accountability.
 
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Aridas said:
Most of them have at least some pretense to democracy, though. North Korea has elections and engages in some democracy rhetoric, for example, even if they're a mockery of actual elections and democracy.

Bogative is trying to pretend that Brazil's being just like them and just as bad, seemingly in an effort to pretend that Brazil's THE bad guy here and that we need not pay attention to the situation as a whole. A convenient, albeit dishonest tactic when trying to avoid accountability.
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If you are punishing citizens of your country for viewing a social media app, you are the bad guy. Pretend otherwise but you are wrong.
 
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