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The Tim Walz campaign, and the ******** attacks upon him.

Brainster said:
No, it's not. IVF is fertilizing an egg in a laboratory dish. IUI (intra-uterine insemination is fertilizing an egg inside the woman's uterus. The key difference here is that even the fiercest pro-life people see nothing wrong with IUI. (Catholic priests may not be as sanguine).
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Congratulations for completely misunderstanding the part you highlighted. The key difference is that the fiercest pro-life people are the only ones who care about your nit-pick. The people you're calling liars aren't laboring under that ferocity.
 
Brainster said:
No, it's not. IVF is fertilizing an egg in a laboratory dish. IUI (intra-uterine insemination is fertilizing an egg inside the woman's uterus. The key difference here is that even the fiercest pro-life people see nothing wrong with IUI. (Catholic priests may not be as sanguine).

But I get it; he's a Democrat and therefore his lies are forgiven because they are in service to a worthy cause.
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Why are you calling it a lie? Can you read Walz's mind and see wilful intention to deceive?

I'm a woman, and until this thread I'd never heard of IUI. IVF is the known terminology.
 
Orphia Nay said:
Why are you calling it a lie? Can you read Walz's mind and see wilful intention to deceive?

I'm a woman, and until this thread I'd never heard of IUI. IVF is the known terminology.
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JayUtah said:
Congratulations for completely misunderstanding the part you highlighted. The key difference is that the fiercest pro-life people are the only ones who care about your nit-pick. The people you're calling liars aren't laboring under that ferocity.
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All of that.
 
ahhell said:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/colloquial

What you are saying is that if I say, "I have a theory about X" I'm a liar unless I've conducted extensive research and had my hypothesis excepted as the scientific consensus, and factually true pending research showing it to be false.

If you ever refer to a cement truck, liar!
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Use the term "immaculate conception" to refer to the doctrine of the virgin birth? Liar! Call a handrail a bannister? Liar!
 
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Well actually......the immaculate conception was Mary's, to ensure Jesus would be born to a human vessel free of Original Sin. Because the son of God couldn't possibly come into the world through a normally filthy woman.
 
Silly Green Monkey said:
Well actually......the immaculate conception was Mary's, to ensure Jesus would be born to a human vessel free of Original Sin. Because the son of God couldn't possibly come into the world through a normally filthy woman.
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Right, which is why it isn't the same as the virgin birth. But lots of people use one colloquially to refer to the other.
 
ahhell said:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/colloquial

What you are saying is that if I say, "I have a theory about X" I'm a liar unless I've conducted extensive research and had my hypothesis excepted as the scientific consensus, and factually true pending research showing it to be false.

If you ever refer to a cement truck, liar!
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I know what colloquially means. Again, Walz was very specific: His wife and he used IVF and not some other method to have their two children and that was why he opposed any efforts to ban it. Here are some examples:

In March, after an Alabama court halted in vitro fertilization procedures in the state, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz decided to speak about his struggle to have children with his wife, Gwen. The same month, his team sent a fundraising email titled “our IVF journey” sharing an article that referenced “his family’s IVF journey” in the headline.

And earlier this month, Walz criticized Ohio Sen. JD Vance, the Republican candidate for vice president, by saying, “If it was up to him, I wouldn’t have a family because of IVF.”
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If you go to a fertility clinic they will often start with IUI before moving on to IVF.

It's easy to confuse the two and for some reason it seems that men are more likely to be confused about the terms than the women involved.
 
CarbShark said:
If you go to a fertility clinic they will often start with IUI before moving on to IVF.

It's easy to confuse the two and for some reason it seems that men are more likely to be confused about the terms than the women involved.
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I underwent IUI several times and until I did, I had never heard of it.
 
Brainster said:
I'm not voting for Trump, I'm voting for Harris. And it is not a minor technicality when someone lies about how a personal experience resulted in their stance on a political issue.
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I wonder how many more of these nonissue issues we are going to read about from people who totally don't support Trump before we get the October surprise of: "You know what? I was going to vote for Harris, but after all these lies? Enough is enough. I'm reluctantly forced to change my vote. Look what the Dems made me do!"
 
CarbShark said:
If you go to a fertility clinic they will often start with IUI before moving on to IVF.

It's easy to confuse the two and for some reason it seems that men are more likely to be confused about the terms than the women involved.
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IVF is much more expensive. but the success of pregnancy is also higher. My best friend and his wife went through this. I want to say each IUI treatment was around a thousand dollars. (This was almost 20 years ago. So who knows how expensive it is today?) And it might have been covered by insurance. I'm pretty sure the IVF wasn't covered and cost five to ten times as much for each treatment.

They use to joke that they would name their child Mercedes, because that how much it cost
 
Vance shoots himself in the foot yet again:
Vance was speaking in Kenosha, Wisconsin on Tuesday morning when a reporter asked how he is preparing to debate Governor Tim Walz on October 1.

“Well, I found a good friend from back home who embellishes and lies a lot, I’m having him stand in for Tim Walz,” Vance responded.
But the insult quickly backfired as several social media users joked Vance was referencing Donald Trump, who has become notorious for lying over everything from election results and crowd sizes to the weather. The Washington Post estimated that during his presidency he made more than 30,000 false or misleading statements.

“Nice of Trump to help Vance with debate prep,” author and Jeopardy! Champion Hemant Mehta wrote.
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If I were the Dems, I would really play up the "Do you want Vance one heartbeat away from the Presidency" angle big time.
 
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