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Kamala Harris Election Campaign

Hilary Clinton is not the topic of this thread. Get back to the topic of this thread.
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Samson said:
Interesting.
Through the looking glass and they say the same thing.
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i don't doubt that, and i think to a certain extent that's expected. and to a certain extent i don't think it's a problem. for example, when the dems pass a bill i'd expect when the news is explaining what the bill is and how it effects people, a left leaning news sources coverage would put more emphasis on the pros of the bill and a right leaning ones the cons. a certain amount of bias is unavoidable, and i think it's even useful in connecting people with the news.

on the other hand, if there was some scandal even close to the magnitude and severity of how closely fox news was working with the trump campaign, i'd like to hear about it.

both sides the same? no, but they're similar.
 
dirtywick said:
i don't doubt that, and i think to a certain extent that's expected. and to a certain extent i don't think it's a problem. for example, when the dems pass a bill i'd expect when the news is explaining what the bill is and how it effects people, a left leaning news sources coverage would put more emphasis on the pros of the bill and a right leaning ones the cons. a certain amount of bias is unavoidable, and i think it's even useful in connecting people with the news.

on the other hand, if there was some scandal even close to the magnitude and severity of how closely fox news was working with the trump campaign, i'd like to hear about it.

both sides the same? no, but they're similar.
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Megan Kelly discussed with Nate Silver today.
He said january 6 was a full stop for voting Trump.
Kelly said The Border and transitioning children to the opposite sex was a full stop for her voting Harris.

Go figure, the economy is always irrelevant.
 
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Fast Eddie B said:
There’s a meme that says: “Universal health care is such a complex beast that only 32 of the world's 33 developed nations have been able to make it work.”

Admittedly, not all of those 32 developed nations have been able to make it work well. Great Britain in particular seems to have major issues.

But as I said, it should be aspirational to find a way towards it that works. Too many Americans can’t afford the care or medications they need, leading to poor outcomes down the road. Or even early death. Let’s at least try.
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We can't. It's like the guy in the book I'm reading about a fairer and simpler tax system. Obviously, if congress looks at it from a logical perspective, then yes, you could get such a system. But we don't elect candidates on that basis. We elect them on an emotional basis - or at least, the majority of the voting population does so.

We want Spock in policy, but we elect Kirk - if that dated reference means anything these days.
 
Pixel42 said:
In the same way an ice cube is similar to an iceberg.
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somewhat, i agree. if you think other than right wing news sources aren’t being manipulative or haven’t deceived their audiences, i disagree. biggest one i can think of is that maga kid that got sanged at by that indian. which, again, pales in comparison to the ways fox has manipulated and deceived their audiences.

problem for me is that while mainstream media can be pretty bad at times on both sides, smaller and independent media tends to be even worse. particularly amongst the people telling you not to trust mainstream media.
 
Samson said:
Megan Kelly discussed with Nate Silver today.
He said january 6 was a full stop for voting Trump.
Kelly said The Border and transitioning children to the opposite sex was a full stop for her voting Harris.

Go figure, the economy is always irrelevant.
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The difference between Nate and Megyn is that Nate's "full stop" actually happened.
 
Donal said:
The difference between Nate and Megyn is that Nate's "full stop" actually happened.
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Most people I know agree.
It is a question of follow the greatest evil to a conclusion.
Notably Nate voting for Harris follows a principled life of gambling, and finding comfort in a fraternity of privileged entitled non sufferers of the need to work.
 
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acbytesla said:
I'm just pointing out that she's not soft on Immigration. I'd say the only reason we have the immigration problems we have is because of Republicans, but that is a gross oversimplification.

I wish people would understand that a significant amount of our immigration problems is a direct result of our foreign policies. That and the Catholic Church and it's opposition to birth control.
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Kamala is now talking about clamping down on the border a bit, she needs to get it done before the election, otherwise she is open to charges of inaction the last four years. Yes I know the Republicans nixed the last border bill but that isn't the end of the matter.
 
Samson said:
Most people I know agree.
It is a question of follow the greatest evil to a conclusion.
Notably Nate voting for Harris follows a principled life of gambling, and finding comfort in a fraternity of privileged entitled non sufferers of the need to work.
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lol wut?
 
Marcus said:
Kamala is now talking about clamping down on the border a bit, she needs to get it done before the election, otherwise she is open to charges of inaction the last four years. Yes I know the Republicans nixed the last border bill but that isn't the end of the matter.
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That's ignorant nonsense. Why is it that so many Americans do not understand our government and how it works? She can not do anything more than her opposition. As VP, she has ZERO authority to do ANYTHING. She is NOT the Executive. She can not implement policy. She can not issue executive orders, she can not pass legislation.
 
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acbytesla said:
That's ignorant nonsense. She can not do anything more than her opposition. As VP, she has ZERO authority to do ANYTHING. She is NOT the Executive. She can not implement policy. She can not issue executive orders, she can not pass legislation.
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We all might quibble about the significance, but it's not nonsense. It's not unreasonable that VPs are held to the policies of their administration. This is something that lots of voters care about (though not me). Fair or not, it's a vulnerability.

Trump having killed the legislation is certainly helpful, and that's why she's highlighting that fact.
 
acbytesla said:
That's ignorant nonsense. Why is it that so many Americans do not understand our government and how it works? She can not do anything more than her opposition. As VP, she has ZERO authority to do ANYTHING. She is NOT the Executive. She can not implement policy. She can not issue executive orders, she can not pass legislation.
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Haven’t you heard? She’s been instrumental in Biden’s policies. It’s been the Biden-Harris team all along.
 
Darat said:
Hilary Clinton is not the topic of this thread. Get back to the topic of this thread.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Darat
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OK.

The most important question, and one that I believed influenced the author of this thread.

Is it:
Harris' campaign
or
Harris's campaign

Where do forumites stand on the apostrophe question?
 
varwoche said:
It's not unreasonable that VPs are held to the policies of their administration.
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And that's presumably part of why she apparently hasn't published a lot of details yet about her own policies: She's still in the process of balancing how much to stamp her name on Biden's and how much to deviate from them (while he is still her boss).

catsmate said:
{Hillary stuff}
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Put it in a Hillary thread.
 
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