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General UK politics VII -Return of the Starmer

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jeremyp said:
And yet a predecessor managed to communicate his policies to the public so effectively, he won three elections in a row.
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By moving to the right.


Stop making excuses for Corbyn. He was a lousy leader.
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I disagree. He wasn't an acceptable leader. It's not the same thing. I think it' worth examining why that's the case.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Not a big thing but Sunak says he often visited St. Mary's to see his beloved Saints play as a kid.

When he was a kid, and until he was an adult, Saints didn't play in St. Marys. They played at the Dell.
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Jesus H Christ on a nuclear-powered flying stunt pogo stick engulfed in crimsom Li-ion flames :eye-poppi

John Crace nailed it today, when he said Sunak's performance is more art than politics. Sunak is setting records for screw-ups that will last a century.
 
I can't be the only one looking forward to seeing Farage try to campaign in Scotland.

That's going to be brutal.
 
We are are restrained, considerate and un-judgemental nation.

You know, from a certain perspective...
 
Wudang said:
What a simplistic world view.
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Well if you're not going to use power to help the lives of your fellow citizens, what bloody use are you?

And Starmer and co, for all their blather, transparently do not have a plan to help their fellow citizens. His politics for the last three years can be summed up as "the politics of failure have failed. We must make them work again."
 
Andy_Ross said:
Catherine Blaiklock the Great Yarmouth candidate for the English Democrats party says

"Zero migration is not enough. We need to reduce the population by 300,000 a year. Only then can we solve the housing and NHS crises

Who would we like to deport?

Every single illegal - maybe 5 million. No one knows how many there are by definition.
Every single foreign criminal
Every single foreign student
Visitor visa overstayers
Every person who shouts about genocide of Jews or hating the UK
Every person who has multiple wives against our marriage laws.
Every grooming gang member."

She's getting support from quite a few people that think Reform are too soft.
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To get to something like 300,000 annually, you're realistically looking at liquidating people of the wrong party affiliation, religion, sexuality and skin colour.
 
zooterkin said:
It's surely different for sporting events, since the outcome of those is not supposed to be predetermined, and insiders betting on them is an indication of probably corruption and match-fixing. But if bookies choose to take bets on events that are determined by a group of people, then that's surely at their risk, and of course they will try to check up on anyone making such wagers, but did the aide do anything actually illegal?

ETA: To answer my own question, from the article:

I still think it should be the bookie's look-out for this sort of event. "Cheating" is not defined in the Gambling Act, and it's not clear to me that having knowledge is cheating.
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It's insider trading.
 
zooterkin said:
No, it isn't. There is nothing being traded, and no one is forcing the bookies to take the bet.
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Fraud against the bookie maybe? Malfeasance in a Public Office? Possibly both? You're right that the bookies weren't forced to take the bet, but I don't think there's would be any difficulty arguing it's reasonable on the bookies part to assume that the guy who's walked through the door to bet on the election hasn't taken a five minute timeout from the Prime Minister's private office to lay the bet before setting up the press announcement.

Maybe he went out for an umbrella but went to the wrong shop?
 
GlennB said:
Jesus H Christ on a nuclear-powered flying stunt pogo stick engulfed in crimsom Li-ion flames :eye-poppi

John Crace nailed it today, when he said Sunak's performance is more art than politics. Sunak is setting records for screw-ups that will last a century.
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Nah, Johnson and even Truss still have him beat by a country mile.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
We got a flyer through from the Tories today, to be fair to wassername who's trying to replace John Howell, it does actually use the word 'Conservative' twice (if not in very large type), once on the front page, once on the back and actually does have some blue on it. It even has a picture of Rishi Sunak (back page, side view, very, very dark).

On the bright side it also says that a vote for the Lib Dems is a vote for Keir Starmer which is really nice of them to reasure people like me who want to vote Labour but are going to vote Lib Dem tactically.
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Bit like the flyer Tory Girl Trevelyan's minion delivered here: "Conservative" only used twice, both in small print and one was the obligatory "who this is from" bit at the bottom. No picture of Sunak.

I note also that said minion scampered around shoving these in letter boxes and didn't call on anyone.
 
Darat said:
Nah, Johnson and even Truss still have him beat by a country mile.
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Worse at being PM, but better as leaders of the Tory party (if one thinks incompetence at politics is an undesirable feature in a Tory party leader, which I dispute)
 
Sunak "greeted" by Italy's Giorgia Meloni at the G7 summit. Looks more like recoiling in terror to me

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The still is unrepresentative. Run the video and she seems quite effusive. I would be a bit more stand-offish if I met her, a handshake would be more than sufficient, but Sunak is courting the far-right at home, so why not do so abroad?
 
Filippo Lippi said:
The still is unrepresentative. Run the video and she seems quite effusive. I would be a bit more stand-offish if I met her, a handshake would be more than sufficient, but Sunak is courting the far-right at home, so why not do so abroad?
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Is his father-in-law looking for deals with the Italian government at the moment?
 
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