Criminal Charges Against Trump / Trump Indicted / Hush Money Part III

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Exclusive: One in 10 Republicans less likely to vote for Trump after guilty verdict, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds
By Jason Lange
May 31, 20246:27 PM EDTUpdated 15 hours ago

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/on...-guilty-verdict-reutersipsos-poll-2024-05-31/

Not good news for Trump

It didn't say in the article how many of those 1 in 10 had already decided against voting for Trump, with the conviction simply magnifying their sentiment. So it's possible it may not have much bearing even if it holds up over time.
 
You have to love local papers finding the local angle.

The Ayrshire Advertiser reported the Trump verdict with the headline

"Ayrshire hotelier found guilty of 34 charges in hush money trial"
 
Sorry for the multiple blasts. I blame it on the software. I have to. Otherwise it's due to my wub fingers/brain system, and that certainly couldn't be the case.

I always blame such things on my keyboard. Used to be, I had an old sluggish one, but now I got a new one, and it's just too fast ...

Hans
 
'cause sharks are now protected species.

Hans

I think it's important for people to point out to the Trump supporters that Trump committed many more serious crimes than the 34 he's been convicted of. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Trump is absolutely guilty of stealing classified United States documents. He even divulged classified information to patrons of Mar a Lago. He obstructed justice when he hid documents from the FBI. He has been indicted for 37 felonies in Florida. 4 felonies in Washington DC and 41 in Georgia. Although they reduced the number of charges in Georgia.

Trump is a criminal. He used the Presidency to enrich himself and spread hate.
 
I am so confused.

Everyone knows Biden is a mastermind at manipulating the entire judicial system. The Department of Justice, state and local prosecutors, witnesses, and grand juries and trial juries are all under Biden's evil control. Trump does not stand a chance against any charges Biden cares to throw at him.

So, why does Trump get indicted for only what he actually did?
 
I am so confused.

Everyone knows Biden is a mastermind at manipulating the entire judicial system. The Department of Justice, state and local prosecutors, witnesses, and grand juries and trial juries are all under Biden's evil control. Trump does not stand a chance against any charges Biden cares to throw at him.

So, why does Trump get indicted for only what he actually did?


You don't understand.

The System is so rigged against honest Republicans like Trump that he had no choice but to commit extremely minor crimes in order to get elected and save the US and by extension the Galaxy.

Trump is like the teenager who lied about his age in order to get into the military, and then goes on to singlehandedly beat the Vietcong.
Sure he committed a crime by lying on his papers, but if he hadn't, America would now be ruled by Moscow.
I mean Beijing - Putin is the Most Christian King and it would be the best thing for the US if it became his vassal.
 
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I am so confused.

Everyone knows Biden is a mastermind at manipulating the entire judicial system. The Department of Justice, state and local prosecutors, witnesses, and grand juries and trial juries are all under Biden's evil control. Trump does not stand a chance against any charges Biden cares to throw at him.

So, why does Trump get indicted for only for a small percentage of what he actually did?
FIFY

Trump has gotten away with crimes and illegal activities for decades. As President, he was running a crime festival. And now Republicans are running interference. Note that Steve Bannon was sentenced by the Federal District judge for contempt of Congress. And that Judge sentenced Bannon for 4 months. A pathetically short sentence and then stayed the sentence that would allow Bannon to appeal. Bannon's appeals were exhausted and the case was returned to the judge a month ago. The judge is supposed to order the execution of the sentence and incarcerate Bannon forthwith. And he has done nothing.

Just pretending the case wasn't returned.
 
BTW, The State of Washington has a law against felons running for public office.
 
I am so confused.

Everyone knows Biden is a mastermind at manipulating the entire judicial system. The Department of Justice, state and local prosecutors, witnesses, and grand juries and trial juries are all under Biden's evil control. Trump does not stand a chance against any charges Biden cares to throw at him.

So, why does Trump get indicted for only what he actually did?

Same reason we have Republican elected officials in Congress that claim Biden stole the election from Trump when they were voted into office on the exact same ballots, handled by the exact same people, using the exact same process, voted in by the exact same voters.

The post-fact world is more and more going into full on dream logic reality denial where things not only don't have to be factually correct but aren't even required to have any form of internal logic or coherence.

The Republic Party and Demographic is 100% flexing on us trying to see just how wronger than not even wrong then can be before it bites them in the ass.
 
Same reason we have Republican elected officials in Congress that claim Biden stole the election from Trump when they were voted into office on the exact same ballots, handled by the exact same people, using the exact same process, voted in by the exact same voters.

The post-fact world is more and more going into full on dream logic reality denial where things not only don't have to be factually correct but aren't even required to have any form of internal logic or coherence.

The Republic Party and Demographic is 100% flexing on us trying to see just how wronger than not even wrong then can be before it bites them in the ass.

ETA: To expand on this.

We're seeing basically the same thing conspiracy theoriest did. I mentioned before that the whole big popular conspiracy theory sphere make a leap round about the time of 9/11 that didn't get talked about enough.

Let's look at the two Ur examples of big, broad American conspiracy theories; Kennedy and 9/11.

Obviously all conspiracy theories have multiple versions but the core most common version of the Kennedy Conspiracy theory usually goes something like:

There was a conspiracy within the United States government to murder Kennedy. They found a well known communist sympathizer to frame as a patsy, had the actual assassination carried out by a second gunman from the grassy knoll, faked/covered up all the evidence, and had the patsy killed so he couldn't talk.

Okay that's not what happened if you introduce actual facts and reality into it, but it's at least a good story. It COULD happen. If you read that in a spy novel or something it would work as an A-B-C sequence of congruent events.

Now take 9/11. Again multiple competing insane versions exist but most of them boil down to:

The United States government decides to fake a terrorist attack because reasons. So they fly fake planes full of people who never existed into the World Trade Centers which were also rigged to detonate with magic explosives. They then shoot a cruise missile at the Pentagon and say it is a plane. They create a narrative of heroic passengers that didn't exist taking down one of the flights before it can be used in a terrorist attack... I guess to give the story some heroic angle because of reasons. They then... attack a country who was harboring a terrorist who was already an international wanted man and later a country that had nothing to do with anything because... oil I guess.

See the difference? That doesn't make sense even if you believe it. It's just random nonsense that doesn't fit together or form a narrative. The actions and the motivations of the conspirators doesn't make any sense even within the context of the scenario we're being told.

Same thing here. The Right has moved on from stuff that isn't true to stuff that doesn't even make sense and all of them with a rounding error are sitting there with a chip on their shoulder and a smug insufferable troll grin on their face daring us to even notice it, much less do something about it.
 
I am so confused.

Everyone knows Biden is a mastermind at manipulating the entire judicial system. The Department of Justice, state and local prosecutors, witnesses, and grand juries and trial juries are all under Biden's evil control. Trump does not stand a chance against any charges Biden cares to throw at him.

So, why does Trump get indicted for only what he actually did?

And don't forget, that Biden the criminal mastermind is also a doddering senile old fool who can't string two sentences together!
 
Frankly, I think Biden made a huge mistake choosing Merrick Garland as Attorney General. And regardless of who he chose, that person had to pick a special investigator on day one. Day two at the latest. Someone with subpoena power. The fact that Trump wasn't indicted within 6 months was a huge mistake.
 
Same reason we have Republican elected officials in Congress that claim Biden stole the election from Trump when they were voted into office on the exact same ballots, handled by the exact same people, using the exact same process, voted in by the exact same voters.

The post-fact world is more and more going into full on dream logic reality denial where things not only don't have to be factually correct but aren't even required to have any form of internal logic or coherence.

The Republic Party and Demographic is 100% flexing on us trying to see just how wronger than not even wrong then can be before it bites them in the ass.

It's an interesting experiment, how much fantasist thinking can a political party pile on before it collapses? Is there a limit? In religion, the survival of the Catholic Church suggests a stratospherically high capacity, but maybe they're too dissimilar to compare.
 
The only serious attempt to rebut the validity of the case I've heard is complaining about the use of the "in pursuit of a crime" clause to get around the statute of limitations and elevate it to a felony.

If that's the slam dunk that makes it unfair, did Trump's legal team object during the trial?
 
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