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Merged $25,000 Spent on programes that made things worse./Woke kindergarten

arthwollipot said:
Yes. The antiwokers invented the lie in order to denigrate and make fun of people who simply had social understanding and compassion (like they invented the CRT lie for the same reasons), then some other idiots decided to "take it back" or "reclaim" the word and use it just as idiotically.

Irrelevant. The word does not have that meaning any more. Whatever Black Americans intended for the word, it's long gone. What the antiwokers mean by the word is entirely their own invention.
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I would argue that this program, woke kindergarten puts lie to that. Anti wokester couldn't have made that up and yet, it exist unironically as far as I can tell, doing exactly what anti-wokesters think woke is. Not to mention that this organization has existed since 2019, call it what you want, doesn't have to be woke but the thing exists regardless. As long as the right has been using woke pejoritively, the left has been claiming all it means is the original thing, except that hasn't been true since the 70s..
 
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ahhell said:
I would argue that this program, woke kindergarten puts lie to that. Anti wokester couldn't have made that up and yet, it exist unironically as far as I can tell, doing exactly what anti-wokesters think woke is.
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Which, to me, means that it's an invention of the antiwokers like I said. That the wokers do what the antiwokers think they should do proves my point.

ahhell said:
Not to mention that this organization has existed since 2019, call it what you want, doesn't have to be woke but the thing exists regardless. As long as the right has been using woke pejoritively, the left has been claiming all it means is the original thing, except that hasn't been true since the 70s..
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Except the wokers in this case aren't doing "the original thing", they're doing what the antiwokers think they should be doing, which is far removed from "the original thing".


"The original thing" is what we all should be doing daily, by the way. Just saying.
 
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arthwollipot said:
Utter bull **** from start to finish, as I have been explaining.
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But real bull **** that is really being packaged by real progressives and really being sold to other real progressives to really be taught to real children.

Which for some reason you've decided must all be a right-wing conspiracy to prank liberals.
 
theprestige said:
But real bull **** that is really being packaged by real progressives and really being sold to other real progressives to really be taught to real children.
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If by "real progressives" you mean "utter ******* idiots", then I agree completely.

theprestige said:
Which for some reason you've decided must all be a right-wing conspiracy to prank liberals.
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Conspiracy? What the actual ****?

You think I'm describing a ******* conspiracy? You've got to be kidding.
 
Thermal said:
Soooo... what exactly gave the Frisco school board the idea that Wokey Kindergarten was going to make their students score higher academically?
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Assuming facts not in evidence.

AFAIK the idea was that it could improve attendance and rolls. The school gets paid according to attendance hours. Attendance is down, and rolls are slipping as parents choose alternatives, so they were trying ways to counteract that.

The premise of the OP is therefore off-base. Improving academic performance was never the goal.

Stout said:
Sometimes it's like questioning the validity of the scriptures with religious fanatics.
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In the US 74% of adults are Christians. It goes without saying that their scriptures are invalid, yet does 75% the country excoriate them for their beliefs? No. Only a very small percentage of the population is vocally anti-religious.

Seems to me that 'woke' is far more valid than stories about supernatural beings. After all, it's an incontrovertible fact that African Americans have been (and still are) subjected to social injustice, as have other races and groups. Perhaps you think the victims should just keep quiet about it and not get uppity, but that doesn't make their awareness of reality invalid.

So is that it for Woke Kindergarten? I'm surprised the school folded so quickly. Maybe the parents found out.
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How do you know it wasn't parents that wanted it?
 
In it's latest reiteration the word woke represents all things extreme progressive not just the plight of American Blacks. Woke Kindergarten, as we know it was all about Palestine with the tacit lesson of "Jews Bad" being a bit of a bonus as Jews are considered western.

Woke is everything form censoring the word lame, as in telling a lame joke as abelist to having a trans athlete on a high school basketball team beating the tar out of the opposing team.

How do you know it wasn't parents that wanted it?
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The children were described as English learners which means the parents were recent immigrants who probably crawled across broken glass to get to the U.S. They're going to want their kids to succeed and those kids need their academic needs met (easy at that age) not to be told that their new home has no right to exist.
 
Roger Ramjets said:
Assuming facts not in evidence.

AFAIK the idea was that it could improve attendance and rolls. The school gets paid according to attendance hours. Attendance is down, and rolls are slipping as parents choose alternatives, so they were trying ways to counteract that.
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Assuming facts not in evidence.

I'm not seeing anything on the Woke Kindergarten site about increased scholastic attendance hours. There's a bit about attending your first protest, but that's hardly a school's perfect attendance award criteria.

You seem to be claiming to have information about this program and it's goals/ends that are not presented? Would you mind sharing? I'm very interested in exactly what this quarter million dollar deal was about, since the website claims it's programs are free and they rely on donations.

The premise of the OP is therefore off-base. Improving academic performance was never the goal.
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Yet reasonable to assume. It's kind of what you expect from a school who is spending large wads of your taxpayer money on student programs.

But again, if you have undisclosed information about this gig and it's paid objectives, please share it.

ETA: in contradiction to your assertions about the goals of the program, I call your attention to this quote from the OP article:

. The sessions are funded through a federal program meant to help the country’s lowest-performing schools boost student achievement.
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ahhell said:
This is a great example of common ignorance regarding American schools.

The US spends more per pupil than almost every other nation in the world.
https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/5e4ecc25-en/index.html?itemId=/content/component/5e4ecc25-en
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cmd/education-expenditures-by-country


The other common misconception is that our schools funding is very different depending on where you live. Not really true as most school funding comes from the states and is based on the number of students. There's also federal funding based on the number of students. Local properties taxes make up the rest and its not a big difference anymore.

Also, there's basically no correlation between spending on education and educational outcomes.

Side note, actually related to the topic. WTF? How could someone name there education program Woke Kindergarten, Its a white racists fever dream of what's going on in education? Seriously, WTF?
Also, when you look at this anti-capitalist for profit business's website, it reads like a white racist's fever dream of AOC. WTF?
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The US public school system is massively underfunded, mostly because of racism. Far too much of the education funding in the US is spent on private schools for rich white kids.
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
The US public school system is massively underfunded, mostly because of racism. Far too much of the education funding in the US is spent on private schools for rich white kids.
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I guess you missed the bit where the US spends more per student than any country but Luxemburg? And that because much of that increase has come from state and federal funding, as spending has increased the differential in per pupil spending has decreased dramatically.

That's also public school spending. You're basically just repeating false talking points. Teachers' Union propaganda. Less than 10% of Americans go to private schools, most of those are catholic and other religious schools that actually tend to spend less per student than public schools.

https://www.gobankingrates.com/saving-money/education/private-school-cost-vs-public-school/

If the schools in the US are underfunded, schools in places like Ireland must ****, they spend about third per student what the US does.
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
The US public school system is massively underfunded, mostly because of racism. Far too much of the education funding in the US is spent on private schools for rich white kids.
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One of the left's most sacred tenets is that any problem can be solved with more taxpayer spending. Despite all the evidence that this isn't true, the religious fervor can't be squelched.
 
Trausti said:
One of the left's most sacred tenets is that any problem can be solved with more taxpayer spending. Despite all the evidence that this isn't true, the religious fervor can't be squelched.
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Nobody on the left believes that complex problems can be fixed simply by throwing money at them.

Otherwise we would have solved racism by now.
 
arthwollipot said:
Nobody on the left believes that complex problems can be fixed simply by throwing money at them.

Otherwise we would have solved racism by now.
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And, yet, throwing more money down the drain is the only solution they can think of.
 
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