Why I should vote for Trump?

Looking from New Zealand where we don't get to vote for POTUS, and if we park for a moment the post election fiasco, what is the worst and second worst thing Trump did as president?
I never saw anyone list these things.
 
Samson said:
Looking from New Zealand where we don't get to vote for POTUS, and if we park for a moment the post election fiasco, what is the worst and second worst thing Trump did as president?
I never saw anyone list these things.
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Oh, Lordy, where to start? But the worst thing? Claiming the 2020 election was rigged and stolen and fomenting an insurrection ending over 200 years of peaceful, democratic transitions of power.
 
Stacyhs said:
Oh, Lordy, where to start? But the worst thing? Claiming the 2020 election was rigged and stolen and fomenting an insurrection ending over 200 years of peaceful, democratic transitions of power.
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We all know that. I said let's park that and focus on the worst and 2nd worst things besides, and the list can grow in descending order. My current view is that the democrats are extremely dangerous to wider society, and there is no obvious damage Trump can do.
But I can be persuaded otherwise.
 
Samson said:
We all know that. I said let's park that and focus on the worst and 2nd worst things besides, and the list can grow in descending order. My current view is that the democrats are extremely dangerous to wider society, and there is no obvious damage Trump can do.
But I can be persuaded otherwise.
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Nominating lying judges to the SC (Roe v. Wade is 'established' precedent).

Here's a list for you:
Chronicling Trump’s 10 worst abuses of power


President Trump’s worst offenses

The 59 worst things Trump did during his presidency
 
Mike! said:
The only people supporting genocide in Ukraine are the MAGAts.
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If that's true, please feel free to explain why there were no new wars during President Trump's term in office?

Biden supporters must be all out warmongers. I remember when the US and the World had peace and prosperity. Is that a deal breaker for Democrats? If so, may you live to serve in the wars you're responsible for. :thumbsup:

MAGA Republicans prefer peace and prosperity. Like it or not, the Democrat party is burning the World with weak leadership and policy.
 
Stacyhs said:
Oh, Lordy, where to start? But the worst thing? Claiming the 2020 election was rigged and stolen and fomenting an insurrection ending over 200 years of peaceful, democratic transitions of power.
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Don't forget, he's a Russian spy too. Also, Trump was given a heads up on the DNC hacking info release. If we're going to go with the Media/Democrat talking points/"stories", may as well throw them all in together. :thumbsup:

PS The World is burning, just so you know.
 
The same peace and prosperity that led North Korea to detonate a nuke and launch ICBMs? The same peace and prosperity that involved assassinating a foreign official within the borders of our ally without telling said ally? The same peace and prosperity that led to the abandonment of the Kurds? The same peace and prosperity that encouraged Israel to expand its illegal settlements and violently strike down resistance from Palestinians? The same peace and prosperity that increased deployments and engagements? That led to the death of a Navy SEAL in Somalia and 3 Green Berets in Niger? The same peace and prosperity that led to riots in the streets in the US? The same peace and prosperity that encouraged an attack on the US Capitol to overturn a free and fair election?
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Don't forget, he's a Russian spy too. Also, Trump was given a heads up on the DNC hacking info release. If we're going to go with the Media/Democrat talking points/"stories", may as well throw them all in together. :thumbsup:

PS The World is burning, just so you know.
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So lets elect Trump and throw 10 million tons of gasoline on the fire?
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Don't forget, he's a Russian spy too. Also, Trump was given a heads up on the DNC hacking info release. If we're going to go with the Media/Democrat talking points/"stories", may as well throw them all in together. :thumbsup:
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So, you got nothing but acting like a caricature?

PS The World is burning, just so you know.
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So quit licking Nero's boots
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
If that's true, please feel free to explain why there were no new wars during President Trump's term in office?

Biden supporters must be all out warmongers. I remember when the US and the World had peace and prosperity. Is that a deal breaker for Democrats? If so, may you live to serve in the wars you're responsible for. :thumbsup:

MAGA Republicans prefer peace and prosperity. Like it or not, the Democrat party is burning the World with weak leadership and policy.
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You keep repeating the same nonsense. I listed dozens of wars that were started during Trump's tenure. Or have you conveniently forgot?
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
If that's true, please feel free to explain why there were no new wars during President Trump's term in office?
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Meh, I think this is a misdirection. We were still involved in an on-going conflict in the middle east throughout most of Trump's presidency. And the US neither started nor instigated the conflicts in Ukraine and Israel/Gaza.

You might be able to make a case that Trump was effective in preventing the leaders of other countries from starting conflicts that the US would end up involved in... Trump was generally perceived to be pretty likely to go in "guns a'blazing" which could arguably have a deterrent effect.

But at the end of the day, i don't think it's reasonable to attribute the behavior of foreign states during one four-year period to which person was in the white house at the time, when the US was not a causal actor.
 
acbytesla said:
You keep repeating the same nonsense. I listed dozens of wars that were started during Trump's tenure. Or have you conveniently forgot?
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To be fair, you listed a bunch of conflicts in other parts of the world that the US had no involvement in whatsoever. That seems like a wilful mischaracterization of what the other person was saying.
 
Emily's Cat said:
Meh, I think this is a misdirection. We were still involved in an on-going conflict in the middle east throughout most of Trump's presidency. And the US neither started nor instigated the conflicts in Ukraine and Israel/Gaza.

You might be able to make a case that Trump was effective in preventing the leaders of other countries from starting conflicts that the US would end up involved in... Trump was generally perceived to be pretty likely to go in "guns a'blazing" which could arguably have a deterrent effect.

But at the end of the day, i don't think it's reasonable to attribute the behavior of foreign states during one four-year period to which person was in the white house at the time, when the US was not a causal actor.
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Was he though? I think he was seen as more mercurial (to put it nicely). North Korea didn't back down. Syria didn't back down. Iran escalated its activities in the Middle East.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
If that's true, please feel free to explain why there were no new wars during President Trump's term in office?

Biden supporters must be all out warmongers. I remember when the US and the World had peace and prosperity. Is that a deal breaker for Democrats? If so, may you live to serve in the wars you're responsible for. :thumbsup:

MAGA Republicans prefer peace and prosperity. Like it or not, the Democrat party is burning the World with weak leadership and policy.
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Last I engaged your nonsense it got me a yellow card, so I shan't go there again. :rolleyes:
 
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