Cont: Today's Mass Shooting (part 3)

[Nessie]

Well yeah, that's why I put poverty/ broken homes etc for brevity.



OK, but you have said you are in Scotland, iirc? The Scot population self reports as "white" over 95% of the time. I would surely expect "dealing" with white people would be kind of overwhelmingly the norm? Or did you mean white knife murderers?

https://www.audit-scotland.gov.uk/uploads/docs/report/2022/as_diversity_2022.pdf

My point is that it does not matter the colour of skin, there are societal issues that drive violent crime. Put a black or white person in a sink estate, with no prospects and gangs and both are likely to end up involved in violent crime.

 

[Susheel]

Take the weapons away first, then address the underlying behavioral issues.

Or...you know...do both....

 

[thaiboxerken]

Or...you know...do both....

Exactly. Take away the immediate threat and then deal with the causes of the threat.

 

[Trausti]

We know for example that the police force is racist, we also know our justice system is racist, that non-white people face additional hurdles in employment etc. It's a nasty mix.

Tell that to the young White girls in Rotherham.

 

[Trausti]

My policing career was dealing with 90% people who are white and it was those factors, rather than just being poor, that determined the chances of someone becoming a criminal.

Antisocial behavior is in part hereditary. We prefer to assume that the arrow of casuality is that social/economic circumstances lead to bad behavior. When it may be that bad behavior leads to these circumstances. Asians in New York City have a high proverty rate. Yet, a near absence of antisocial behavior.

 

[Darat]

Tell that to the young White girls in Rotherham.

Did you mean to quote a different post - your comment has nothing to do with what I posted and you quoted?

 

[Trausti]

https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/assembly/commission-on-knife-crime-in-black-community

"Despite making up only 13% of London’s total population, black Londoners account for 45% of London’s knife murder victims, 61% of knife murder perpetrators and 53% of knife crime perpetrators."

To really understand why that is, you need to look at which part of London's black population commit knife crime. I can guarantee it is not the educated, employed, socially successful black Londoners who see a bright future for themselves and their families. It is those who are from no hope backgrounds of poverty, unemployment, broken homes, substance misuse and gangs.

The same is true for white people.

There's still a missing link between not having enough cash and just slashing people. And you have to assume that this White knife crime existed at similar levels when the demographics were different. Probably not.

 

[Trausti]

Did you mean to quote a different post - your comment has nothing to do with what I posted and you quoted?

You were commenting on how the UK police were racist. Yeah, against those poor White girls who were abused and told to shut up by those tasked with protecting them.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Reality is racist, apparently.

No, just you.

PS there is absolutely no correlation between your beliefs and reality. Everything that you think is true is a fantasy which only exists inside your head.

 

[Darat]

You were commenting on how the UK police were racist. Yeah, against those poor White girls who were abused and told to shut up by those tasked with protecting them.

I was commenting about the police in London since we were talking about, you know London, rather than Rotherham which is not part of London.

 

[Lothian]

I was commenting about the police in London since we were talking about, you know London, rather than Rotherham which is not part of London.

Rotherham/ Romford so similar. Racist begins with 'R' as well. What are the odds?.

 

[sackett]

"Antisocial behavior is in part hereditary," said somebody. Whee! Lysenko lives! Keep cuttin' them mouses's tails off, they'll get shorter 'ventually! It just stands on reasons!

But I want to know how much of a part of Auntie Social is hereditary? A big part? Just a little part? Can I guess somewheres around 32%? Dammit, it ain't scientific science without you got numbers!

 

[Bogative]

No, just you.

PS there is absolutely no correlation between your beliefs and reality. Everything that you think is true is a fantasy which only exists inside your head.

My belief is blacks commit the overwhelming majority of mass shootings. That's reality. If it weren't, you would present your evidence rather than spouting off.

 

[sackett]

Don't pull

My belief is blacks commit the overwhelming majority of mass shootings. That's reality. If it weren't, you would present your evidence rather than spouting off.

your punches, Bogt. Tell GF why them n-words is so shooty. He's probably scared you will. Go on n put him outa your misery.

 

[Lplus]

I was commenting about the police in London since we were talking about, you know London, rather than Rotherham which is not part of London.

Good, can we then assume that some police forces in the UK, including Rotherham, are not racist?

IIRC the police in Rotherham were so desperate not to be accused of racism that they failed to investigate the allegations of grooming.

 

[Lplus]

your punches, Bogt. Tell GF why them n-words is so shooty. He's probably scared you will. Go on n put him outa your misery.

Interesting that you don't deny the reality Bogative states, but instead rely on veiled accusations of racism to hide your inability to cope with someone stating reality.

 

[bluesjnr]

your punches, Bogt. Tell GF why them n-words is so shooty. He's probably scared you will. Go on n put him outa your misery.

Why don't you explain why? You seem to have a response ready to shoot down the reply you imagine will come from Bogative.

Your use of veiled racist language to put words into someone else's mouth is also noted alongside the notion that you are implying racism from another party? The irony is palpable.

I would have to think hard to recall a more spineless post written entirely to curry favour.

EDIT - Looking at the prior post to this one it seems that I'm not the only one onto your..... "game".

 

[BrettM]

Interesting that you don't deny the reality Bogative states, but instead rely on veiled accusations of racism to hide your inability to cope with someone stating reality.

Agreed. Classic case of attacking the arguer, not the argument.

 

[Lothian]

My belief is blacks commit the overwhelming majority of mass shootings. That's reality. If it weren't, you would present your evidence rather than spouting off.

Between 1982 and December 2023, 80 out of the 149 mass shootings in the United States were carried out by White shooters. By comparison, the perpetrator was African American in 26 mass shootings, and Latino in 12. When calculated as percentages, this amounts to 54 percent, 17 percent, and eight percent respectively.

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Strange how your belief is so out of sync with reality. Where do you think your false belief came from?

 

[Nessie]

There's still a missing link between not having enough cash and just slashing people.

That link is missing, because poverty and crime are not directly linked. It is exposure to broken homes, substance abuse, unemployment and gangs that links poverty to crime, as those causes are more prevalent in poorer areas.

And you have to assume that this White knife crime existed at similar levels when the demographics were different. Probably not.

Scotland has a long history of knife crime and a majority white population, even in the cities.