Cont: Musk buys Twitter II

I Am The Scum said:
Take it to the transphobia thread
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Sure, as soon as the opposite disappears from this thread too. As in, when the case about Musk or X having transphobic opinions is also moved there. ESPECIALLY when it comes to cis guys with no personal stake taking the paternalistic-autocratic attitude of telling the trans what we should be offended about, and what we should be against. Otherwise it's just another case of "I'm right because nobody is allowed to disagree with me" (where I make my case.) No different from what the flat-earthers, or MAGA, or apologists, etc, wish they had for a playing field :p
 
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But it's not even just about trans or whatnot. The whole social media lately has spiralled down the drain to a circle jerk where group X is telling group not-X what they should think, what they should be offended about, and what's wrong with them if they don't. Then patting themselves on the back and basking in the thumbs up and retweets from other members of group X.

You have males telling women what feminism should be about, what they're allowed to be offended by, what they're not allowed to be offended by, and what's wrong with them if they think differently. And if the idea of women needing men to tell them what they're allowed to think doesn't strike you as the flippin' POLAR OPPOSITE of feminism, yeah, take a break and think it over.

You have White Anglo-Saxon Protestants telling blacks, muslims, etc, what they're allowed to be offended by, what they're not allowed to be offended by, and what's wrong with them if they think differently. That's not even being an ally, that's the 19'th century "white man's burden" and "mission to civilize" ideas. They're literally trying to civilize those other people, by telling them what a civilized man should think.
 
Right. And I have black friends, so I'm not racist, right? :p

Anyway, most people don't actually listen to those friends. Maybe you do. Kudos then. Most people seem to think they can just get their ego-wank fix by emailing or tweeting to a black woman anti-racism activist about what she should really feel about race or gender relations. Or I'd run out of fingers and toes counting the videos I've run into of guys having something to say about what feminism really is, and why JK Rowling isn't really.
 
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Fast Eddie B said:
It’s one of a handful of sites/apps that have sprung up to provide an alternative to Twitter. Mastodon, Threads, and Post are the main ones springing to mind.
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I was aware of (and have an account on) Mastodon and Threads, but somehow Post had eluded my attention.

ETA: Threads is my alternative of choice. You know what my handle is. :D
 
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I tried out Threads, and have an account. fastereddieb.

I’ll give it another look. No need to be monogamous!


Edited to add: Is it just me, or is there an inordinate amount of soft core porn on Threads. I’ve never posted to it, nor “liked” any of that content, so I don’t know why I’d be targeted.
 
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Fast Eddie B said:
I tried out Threads, and have an account. fastereddieb.

I’ll give it another look. No need to be monogamous!


Edited to add: Is it just me, or is there an inordinate amount of soft core porn on Threads. I’ve never posted to it, nor “liked” any of that content, so I don’t know why I’d be targeted.
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I've recently had two acquaintances delete eXTwitter in disgust because child porn showed up in two different completely none-porn categories. One was baseball and the other was sewing.

It's insane.
 
Wudang said:
I have trans friends. I listen to them and assume their assessment of how they feel is how they feel.
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This.


QUOTE=arthwollipot;14228492]I was aware of (and have an account on) Mastodon and Threads, but somehow Post had eluded my attention.

ETA: Threads is my alternative of choice. You know what my handle is. :D[/QUOTE]
OT but the name always reminds me of the film.
 
HansMustermann said:
And speaking as a former trans(ed)-girl, I can tell them: tough luck. Deal with it. Learn to take the fire or get out of the kitchen. Nobody owes you a damn thing, much less to pretend your fantasies are true. Not any more than anyone needs to pretend I'm actually a TIE Fighter pilot when I look at the bright lights and dials on my car's dashboard. :p

At the end of the day, you're still just a guy in a skirt (I know I was), or a girl in pants. And maybe some falsies like I had. And whether they actually say it or pretend otherwise or they're just too dumbfounded to actually say it (hi to my old high school teachers!:p), that's what 90% of the people around you will see you as. And about 3 out of 4 of those will see you as, at the very least, weird. Again, learn to take the fire or get out of the kitchen. YOU are the one making demands of their behaviour, not the other way around, and they don't have any obligation to comply.

But, again, they don't owe you a damn thing. You don't get to try to cancel them if they do the thought crime of thinking different than you do. And no, you're not entitled to an echo-chamber either :p
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That's very easy to say when you're the one inflicting the murderous campaign of hate on others and are not the target of it. I wonder how loudly you'll complain when your current alleged allies turn on you. They will given a halfa chance.
 
HansMustermann said:
Sure, as soon as the opposite disappears from this thread too. As in, when the case about Musk or X having transphobic opinions is also moved there. ESPECIALLY when it comes to cis guys with no personal stake taking the paternalistic-autocratic attitude of telling the trans what we should be offended about, and what we should be against. Otherwise it's just another case of "I'm right because nobody is allowed to disagree with me" (where I make my case.) No different from what the flat-earthers, or MAGA, or apologists, etc, wish they had for a playing field :p
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It's Samson that keeps derailing the thread. You want him as your role model? Go for it. Take some English lessons from him while you're at it.
 
HansMustermann said:
That was partially a joke, but I didn't expect someone cis who's just virtue-signalling off the trans to get it.
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Thank you for illustrating that you have no mother ******* clue in the world what virtue signalling is, and have zero ability to identify it when it's happening. I couldn't have asked for more.

In fact, my question to you was why anyone would take the "younger people have it too easy, unlike us who are strong" attitude? Since it's not true. Today's people just have different trials, different obstacles than you, which are just as hard. To which you replied with some ridiculous ad hom because you made a stupid joke that was neither funny nor obvious. Perhaps work on your humor some more?

Lastly, if you're going to write long winded posts pissing and moaning about something, don't be doing that exact same "something" in real-time. While entertaining, it defeats the entirety of your attempt at making a point.
 
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Darat said:
When asked for the names of those he was referring to he was only able to give one name. He is fine with people wanting to kill trans kids, kill the mentally ill, kill the homosexuals and so on being let back onto the platform. That's just the price Samson is willing to pay to have one person he agrees with - on the matter of what medical treatments should be made available to trans kids - be allowed back onto the platform.
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The platform is used by every current and past New Zealand prime Minister, but I never contribute, I read some material.
 
Elon Musk Told Bankers They Wouldn’t Lose Any Money On Twitter Purchase

Large hedge funds and credit investors on Wall Street held conversations
with the banks late last year, offering to buy the senior-most portion of
the debt at roughly 65 cents on the dollar. But in recent interviews with
the Financial Times, several said there was no price at which they would
buy the bonds and loans, given their inability to gauge whether Linda
Yaccarino, X’s chief executive, could turn the business around. One
multibillion-dollar firm that specializes in distressed debt called X’s
debt “uninvestable.”

Selling the $12.5 billion of bonds and loans below 60 cents on the dollar
— a price many investors believe the banks would be lucky to achieve in
the current market—would imply losses before accounting for X’s interest
payments of $4 billion or more, write downs that have not yet been publicly
reported by the syndicate of lenders, according to FT calculations. The debt
is split between $6.5 billion of term loans, as well as $6 billion of senior and
junior bonds and a $500 million revolver.
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This reads like, "It's over."

Bankruptcy in 2024? Who knows.
 
Samson said:
The platform is used by every current and past New Zealand prime Minister, but I never contribute, I read some material.
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Which of course has nothing to do with my post. You have made it clear that you are fine with Nazis being allowed back onto Twitter since they support your view on some medical treatments for trans kids.

You exhibit a remarkable example of cognitive dissonance.
 
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