Cont: Musk buys Twitter II

Darat said:
You do support Nazis - you have made it clear that you care not one whit who you support if you deem them to be on “your side” in regards to children being trans and receiving some medical treatments. You claim you don’t want gay children to be “sterilised” yet you are willing to support those that will kill gay children, as well as those deemed Jewish by their race laws, as well as the mentally ill being killed and sterilised, if they succeed in their efforts.
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Islam is a cult, if that helps.
In the culture wars I am opposed to Islamism, gender ideology, and Maori ideology. I know plenty about all three.
 
More legal trouble for Musk that is his own fault:

Far-right conspiracy theorists accused a 22-year-old Jewish man of being a neo-Nazi. Then Elon Musk got involved

Ben Brody says his life was going fine. He had just finished college, stayed out of trouble, and was prepping for law school. Then, seemingly out of nowhere, Elon Musk used his considerable social media clout to amplify an online mob’s misguided rants accusing the 22-year-old from California of being an undercover agent in a neo-Nazi group...
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Samson said:
I do not exist in a vacuum. The young female social warriors are indoctrinated and totally ignorant of history, literature and the enlightenment.
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I rather suspect that "young female social warriors" who so terrify you, are better educated than you, far more compassionate and actually understand biology.
 
Samson said:
I claim the right to elicit only what is helpful to my world experience from social media, and ignore the unhelpful.
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You have every right to be self-declaredly willfully ignorant. But you can’t truthfully call yourself a skeptic or an intellectual if that is your epistemological stance.
 
arthwollipot said:
Wait - did I read that right?

The claim is that MediaMatters manipulated X's algorithm? Is that something that just anybody can do?
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Yes, apparently. The substance of the complaint is that actions such as following certain accounts or scrolling down further and/or refreshing your feed more often than a certain amount, constitute manipulation of the algorithm.
 
Checkmite said:
Yes, apparently. The substance of the complaint is that actions such as following certain accounts or scrolling down further and/or refreshing your feed more often than a certain amount, constitute manipulation of the algorithm.
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You mean, like, just using the service?

Righto then.
 
Checkmite said:
Yes, apparently. The substance of the complaint is that actions such as following certain accounts or scrolling down further and/or refreshing your feed more often than a certain amount, constitute manipulation of the algorithm.
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Only Nazi's would follow the account of a Nazi therefore only Nazi's are likely to see an Intel ad next to Nazi commentary. Anyone else who comes across it is purely accidental and rare. So, Intel etc have nothing to worry about since 99% of the time only Nazi's will see their ad next to Nazi posts... and hey Nazi's buy CPU's too!

...I think thats the gist of their argument?
 
lobosrul5 said:
Only Nazi's would follow the account of a Nazi therefore only Nazi's are likely to see an Intel ad next to Nazi commentary. Anyone else who comes across it is purely accidental and rare. So, Intel etc have nothing to worry about since 99% of the time only Nazi's will see their ad next to Nazi posts... and hey Nazi's buy CPU's too!

...I think thats the gist of their argument?
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yeah i think there's a little bit of "there's nazis on my website but there's actually less nazis than you'd think" mixed in there
 
It's clear that Musk cares more about being perceived as an edgelord than not being perceived as an anti-Semite.
 
Samson said:
I claim the right to elicit only what is helpful to my world experience from social media, and ignore the unhelpful. It is a polarised world, I do the same on this board, without needing the ignore function. If I choose to see Musk as a useful ally against the cancellers of history, literature, Shakespeare, Twain and so on, I will exercise that choice even to the moment the carrion seekers devour his flesh.
Musk is worth a billion haters like Mediamatters and their fake science.
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*shrug* That is your choice. Personally, I would strongly suggest subjecting the arguments that you choose to actual scrutiny and taking the larger picture into account, though. Alternately, of course, you could just keep willfully blinding yourself to the serious flaws in your arguments and just not care beyond that such fits your preferred narrative of the moment.
 
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angrysoba said:
I think Hans is right to consider him a tinkerbellend. He must keep people thinking about him and the easiest way to do that is to constantly be a bellend.
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Just to be clear, I don't think he deliberately made a choice to be a bellend in order to get attention. Just, it kinda comes naturally as he craves that next hit of public attention at all cost.

Basically he's a troll.
 
Darat said:
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.go...n-media-matters-potential-fraudulent-activity

It really does read like something you'd expect to see in historical documents from one of the eastern European countries under Soviet rule, or more perhaps from 1984 the novel, where words mean the opposite, it needs to be presented in its entirety to appreciate the warped world he lives in:



ETA: For those wanting a bit more background this is the article that started this ball rolling: https://www.mediamatters.org/twitte...x-has-been-placing-ads-apple-bravo-ibm-oracle
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It's straight out of Josef Goebbels' playbook.
 
Aridas said:
*shrug* That is your choice. Personally, I would strongly suggest subjecting the arguments that you choose to actual scrutiny and taking the larger picture into account, though. Alternately, of course, you could just keep willfully blinding yourself to the serious flaws in your arguments and just not care beyond that such fits your preferred narrative of the moment.
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There is an army of public intellectuals who replicate my views. Here is one

https://twitter.com/shellenberger/status/1726671127840493811?t=WJIpomPZa9jpOkIIUAeWdQ&s=19

And another

https://twitter.com/AndyBird92300/status/1726531011956379659?t=EKvJtz4B2N5i08dC5GsGug&s=19

I am amazed everyone on this forum dismisses these kinds of people
Kisin is a phenomenally thoughtful and fair minded young man who is gathering pace, alongside his great friend Francis Foster. They plied trade as standups and are the very best of people. I find it depressing the supremely arrogant dismissal of alternative view points around here.
 
Samson said:
There is an army of public intellectuals who replicate my views. Here is one

https://twitter.com/shellenberger/status/1726671127840493811?t=WJIpomPZa9jpOkIIUAeWdQ&s=19

And another

https://twitter.com/AndyBird92300/status/1726531011956379659?t=EKvJtz4B2N5i08dC5GsGug&s=19

I am amazed everyone on this forum dismisses these kinds of people
Kisin is a phenomenally thoughtful and fair minded young man who is gathering pace, alongside his great friend Francis Foster. They plied trade as standups and are the very best of people. I find it depressing the supremely arrogant dismissal of alternative view points around here.
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An "army of public intellectuals replicating your views"? Is this like a herd of free thinkers?

And who is one of them? Michael Shellenberger? Sure, no doubt along with the story about how there is something fishy about the Paul Pelosi story, or about how there are too alien spaceships in Area 51.

And Francis Foster? Jeez!

Anyway, it is not dismissing them. The point you seem to miss is that the arguments are weak or non-existent. You seem to think that your inabilty to argue doesn't matter by pointing at some failed stand-up comedians who agree with you. Are you 'avin' a laff?
 
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