Cont: Today's Mass Shooting (part 3)

Thermal said:
I almost get gang shootings that involve gang members only as treated differently,sort of like a private business endeavor more than a public nuisance. If they involve bystanders, then they should be treated as any other mass shooting.

ETA: but I'm pretty sure his subtle point was that some posters here dismiss some shootings as "gang activity", when the articles don't even suggest that it had anything to do with gangs.
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The DOJ separates out gangland(ie mafia) and youth gang violence as separate categories. However, yeah, I think some of this recent shootings at parties etc were not necessarily gang violence. A poster or two here seems to think because they were non-white and young, that it was gang violence. I also think for the DOJ categories it has to be gang acting as a gang and not, for example, a member of a gang mad that his GF is at a party with another guy and shooting it up.
 
Foster Zygote said:
That's bug-**** crazy. I mean, it sounds like it was inevitable that something was going to set this guy off, but how damaged by prudish morality do you have to be to think that slaughtering an entire family was warranted by a glimpse of some teenager's junk? He needs to spend the rest of his life behind bars.
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The same sort as the people who maintain exposure to drag storytelling will wrap children?
 
lobosrul5 said:
Sure, I agree. But also doesn't warrant a quadruple murder.

Although now that I think about it. You call the police. By the time they get there, the shows probably over. Whats your other option? Record it for evidence. GJ You've just made child porn, and handed over evidence of a felony.

Still doesnt excuse a quadruple murder.
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What about talking to the boy’s parents as a first step?
 
RolandRat said:
A naked person masturbating with two young girls in his view probably would warrant more than a double-take. Assuming that's true of course, bit difficult to get the teenagers side of the story, being dead and all that.
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Do you have *any* reason at all to assume that what you just wrote is remotely true? If not, please don't make stuff up.
 
More on the Kansas City mass shooting.

Not "gang warfare" as some skeptics here at the ISF would call it, but a hug set off this mass shooting.

According to the probable cause statement, one of the wounded told police the shooting started after she greeted one of the suspects and his girlfriend with a hug.

The victim's boyfriend then told the suspect to “watch his hands.” When the victim and her boyfriend began to walk away, the suspect took out a gun and fatally shot him in the back, according to the statement.

Another person pulled a gun and began shooting, striking the woman in the buttocks. The victim identified Greene as the man who shot her, according to the
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The Kansas City police chief outed herself as a racist, White supremacist during a press briefing:
Graves said the city has an "alarming number" of homicides, totaling 97 for the year on Tuesday. At this time last year, it was 73 — and the five-year average is 71, said Deputy Chief Luis Ortiz.

"I'd say we have a culture of violence where it's expected and accepted," Graves said. "I don't want to get desensitized to all of this violence."
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1 of the 2 shooters, Keivon M Greene, was bonded out of jail 2 days earlier for resisting arrest.
 
bluesjnr said:
"I got my life back. We've got our life back," what an insensitive ****.
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Exactly my thought. Of all the things to say in an incident where he did not do his job and intervene when kids were got killed. The father of one of the kids was rightfully incensed on a news interview on the case.
 
Bogative said:
More on the Kansas City mass shooting.

Not "gang warfare" as some skeptics here at the ISF would call it, but a hug set off this mass shooting.





The Kansas City police chief outed herself as a racist, White supremacist during a press briefing:




1 of the 2 shooters, Keivon M Greene, was bonded out of jail 2 days earlier for resisting arrest.
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In what manner did she do that:confused:
 
catsmate said:
So cowardice is fine. Typical for USAia. :rolleyes:
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It's not fine. Just not criminal. It was a dubious criminal charge to begin with.

Some random 60 year old cop being put in a position where we expect him to go running into a building towards chaos and gunfire is absurd and contrary to pretty much everything we understand about how the human brain works.

Fire the guy, fine. Putting him on trial in order to give him a life sentence? A bit much.

He's a scapegoat for what amounts to a wide ranging catastrophic policy failure. Easier to blame this guy than to confront the absurdity of the whole idea of the cops being able to stop these shootings.

The cops assigned to these school details are often people playing out the string to retirement in what is a undemanding public relations job 99.999999% of the time. Then it suddenly becomes a real life FPS except one where if you react wrong you shoot a child.

A big reason policing is such a disaster is that we for various reasons put police in a position to fail and the police make it worse by demanding more and more opportunities to fail. Planning that officers will turn into Master Chief at the drop of a hat is among the dumbest ideas anyone has ever come up with. Trying to give one a life sentence for not doing so is revolting political theatre.
 
erlando said:
Do you have *any* reason at all to assume that what you just wrote is remotely true? If not, please don't make stuff up.
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This is what the shooters wife accused the boy of doing. I literally said "assuming that's true".
 
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