Drag Shows!!

[acbytesla]

Apparently your reading comprehension isn't the greatest as Warren clearly states ONE position: Sec. of Education and NOT, as you stated "I became interested when I discovered she planned for trans youth to be strict and final gatekeepers for all appointments to her cabinet.

I'm skeptical that reading comprehension is the issue. Probably it is more like deliberate mendacity.

 

[Samson]

What exactly is wrong with this? You don’t think schools should be welcoming? Or do you think they should be bigoted and harmful to some individuals?

There is a massive thread to explore the problems, I am suggesting we dial back on the culture that confuses the living bejesus out of innocent kids, and encourages them to include matters from which they should be excluded as minors. Drag shows are a current method the pied piper is using to co0nfuse and ruin some lives.

 

[arthwollipot]

Point out one child that is bejesus confused about a man wearing a dress.

 

[Samson]

Point out one child that is bejesus confused about a man wearing a dress.

Mission creep. We discussed pantomime and so on, but times they are a changin.

 

[arthwollipot]

Mission creep. We discussed pantomime and so on, but times they are a changin.

Are kids inherently more bejesus confusable these days than they were when they were all watching panto?

They're still watching panto, by the way.

 

[acbytesla]

There is a massive thread to explore the problems, I am suggesting we dial back on the culture that confuses the living bejesus out of innocent kids, and encourages them to include matters from which they should be excluded as minors. Drag shows are a current method the pied piper is using to co0nfuse and ruin some lives.

Dial back? How many drag shows have you attended? How many do you think children attend? My guess is almost none. Also what makes you think kids are confused?

I'm from Seattle. I grew up watching the emmy award winning children's show JP Patches that ran from 1958 to 1981. JP Patches was a clown who lived at the City Dump. His girlfriend was Gertrude, a man in drag. I wasn’t harmed by this good natured show.

And neither was I confused. Neither was I confused watching the movies Some Like it Hot, Mrs Doubtfire or the Tom Hanks TV show Bosom Buddies.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._P._Patches

During the Elizabethen era, all parts both male and female were played by men. Men in drag have been part of the theater for 400 years. Probably longer.

I'm afraid you don’t give kids enough credit. This isn't about protecting children. It's individuals terrified of people that are different from them and not wanting to accept that reality.

 

[quadraginta]

Dial back? How many drag shows have you attended? How many do you think children attend? My guess is almost none. Also what makes you think kids are confused?

I'm from Seattle. I grew up watching the emmy award winning children's show JP Patches that ran from 1958 to 1981. JP Patches was a clown who lived at the City Dump. His girlfriend was Gertrude, a man in drag. I wasn’t harmed by this good natured show.

And neither was I confused. Neither dwas I confused watching the movies Some Like it Hot, Mrs Doubtfire or the Tom Hanks TV show Bosom Buddies.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._P._Patches

During the Elizabethen era, all parts both male and female were played by men. Men in drag have been part of the theater for 400 years. Probably longer.

I'm afraid you don’t give kids enough credit. This isn't about protecting children. It's individuals terrified of people that are different from them and not wanting to accept that reality.

It's also about ethically bankrupt Repugnican politicians trying to gin up support from the gullible by making up stuff for them to get upset about.

As long as they can winnow out a harmless and politically weak minority group to lie about they'll do it. Their trans dialogue looks as if it was copied nearly word-for-word from the anti-gays hysteria they wanted to promote in the 60s.

 

[bruto]

I belong to the politically homeless. The word faith sets me on edge, and so do use of pronouns.

What's the matter with pronouns now? It's hard to get by without them. In fact did you not begin your post with one? It sure looks like one.

 

[acbytesla]

It's also about ethically bankrupt Repugnican politicians trying to gin up support from the gullible by making up stuff for them to get upset about.

As long as they can winnow out a harmless and politically weak minority group to lie about they'll do it. Their trans dialogue looks as if it was copied nearly word-for-word from the anti-gays hysteria they wanted to promote in the 60s.

Exactly! Demonize and divide. Xenophobia wins elections. Doesn’t solve the problems we all face. Republicans haven’t tried to solve a single problem that most Americans face. No, it's all about the bronze age morality of a two thousand year old fairy tale. Mexicans, Arabs, Blacks, and Gays.

Never mind the crumbling infrastructure, the education system, the energy crisis, the homeless or opportunities for everyone.

No, it is bring back the Hays code, Guns, God and Gays.

 

[Samson]

Exactly! Demonize and divide. Xenophobia wins elections. Doesn’t solve the problems we all face. Republicans haven’t tried to solve a single problem that most Americans face. No, it's all about the bronze age morality of a two thousand year old fairy tale. Mexicans, Arabs, Blacks, and Gays.

Never mind the crumbling infrastructure, the education system, the energy crisis, the homeless or opportunities for everyone.

No, it is bring back the Hays code, Guns, God and Gays.

Yes I was the same till I saw politicians and legacy media inspiring a crowd including drag characters to violence in Albert Park Auckland. There was no expression of regret, but doubling down.
Since then I have come to realise this is seriously ruining families with misdiagnoses, and tossing drag into it now is fuel for a new wildfire.
I have watched the dominoes topple and it is very ugly.
I would pause drag shows for kids while every other matter is understood and there is clarity, not confusion for kids.
This is where the circus characters go feral.

 

[Trausti]

And neither was I confused. Neither was I confused watching the movies Some Like it Hot, Mrs Doubtfire or the Tom Hanks TV show Bosom Buddies.

Because men wearing women's clothing was ridiculous. It was comedy. It wasn't sexual. All have a good laugh. Conflating that with the sexual drag now shown to children is quite disingenuious.

 

[arthwollipot]

I would pause drag shows for kids while every other matter is understood and there is clarity, not confusion for kids.

Again, show me a kid that is confused by a dude in a dress.

 

[acbytesla]

Because men wearing women's clothing was ridiculous. It was comedy. It wasn't sexual. All have a good laugh. Conflating that with the sexual drag now shown to children is quite disingenuious.

No it's not. When is the last drag show that you saw?

Limiting shows that are sexual in nature might be reasonable But drag shows are NOT necessarily sexual. Most that are happen in adult venues.

But you know what? I wouldn't care if they were. Why can't parents have honest discussions with their children about sex? What are they so afraid of?

 

[acbytesla]

Yes I was the same till I saw politicians and legacy media inspiring a crowd including drag characters to violence in Albert Park Auckland. There was no expression of regret, but doubling down.
Since then I have come to realise this is seriously ruining families with misdiagnoses, and tossing drag into it now is fuel for a new wildfire.
I have watched the dominoes topple and it is very ugly.
I would pause drag shows for kids while every other matter is understood and there is clarity, not confusion for kids.
This is where the circus characters go feral.

Oh BULLCRAP! Families are NOT NOT NOT being ruined by drag shows.

Of all the problems facing the world, this might qualify as the least important.

Why not focus on affordable housing, affordable transportation, affordable quality healthcare, quality education, infrastructure, affordable energy, good mental health, eliminating homelessness, climate change? How about better wages? Or building better communities?

God forbid politicians actually try and help people.

 

[Silly Green Monkey]

By "without cause" are you referring to various genocidal governmental actions taken against minorities? Or do you have a more personal dog in this fight?

 

[arthwollipot]

Still no examples of kids confused by dudes in dresses.

 

[acbytesla]

Still no examples of kids confused by dudes in dresses.

I do love how the existence of drag shows is the cause of all the problems in Auckland in Samson's mind. I don't buy for one second they are the cause of any.

Isn’t it more likely that poor parenting is? Isn't this just a hateful excuse?

 

[Susheel]

I do love how the existence of drag shows is the cause of all the problems in Auckland in Samson's mind. I don't buy for one second they are the cause of any.

Isn’t it more likely that poor parenting is? Isn't this just a hateful excuse?

It's the same "gays are responsible for the destruction of marriage" plaint.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

He just wants Bevis to be a rugged lumberjack, not a girlie like his dear papa. Can you blame the guy?

"I'm a lumberjack, and I'm ok,
I sleep all night and work all day.

I like to dress up in women's clothing,
And hang around in bars!"

 

[Samson]

It's the same "gays are responsible for the destruction of marriage" plaint.

I would like to see a pause in drag shows in Auckland.
Homosexuality is a dead issue in the west as the science is settled. Drag and trans are cases where the warring armies consider whether the body is right or the mind is right.