Cont: Transwomen are not women - part XI

[GlennB]

I am curious.
Can a man competing in women's sport earn a living? If so there is less of a mystery but more of a sin.

Are you kidding? The women's singles champion at Wimbledon pockets a cool £2M. The men's #50 ranked man would cruise to that money.

 

[d4m10n]

Are you kidding? The women's singles champion at Wimbledon pockets a cool £2M. The men's #50 ranked man would cruise to that money.

Said #50 should turn around and sue for equal pay to the men's champion. [emoji471]

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[Ziggurat]

Said #50 should turn around and sue for equal pay to the men's champion. [emoji471]

No need. Wimbledon already gives equal prize money.

But tennis is unusual in sports in that the women's and men's competitions draw similar viewership. In most (not all) sports there's a significant disparity, which justifies a disparity in pay.

The irony in your scenario is that if males started playing and winning in the women's competition, viewership probably would drop dramatically.

 

[lionking]

Is this another one of your trans-facts?

If that’s the only card in your hand it will end up being played. Just like Darat’s anecdotes (safely ignored) and use of factoids (posting that a vanishingly small number of women assault and rape men while ignoring the much higher proportion of transwomen who assault and rape).

 

[d4m10n]

The irony in your scenario is that if males started playing and winning in the women's competition, viewership probably would drop dramatically.

Shouldn't drop too much, since "TERFs remain an extremely vocal minority of...women." [emoji14]

 

[Aber]

Genuinely wondering - which ones?

Try Ireland

https://gript.ie/women-speak-about-sharing-prisons-and-homeless-hostel-facilities-with-trans-identified-males/

A Dublin woman who said she was homeless for 19 years spoke of transgender identified men being treated as women by homeless services and being allowed to sleep, change, and shower in women’s facilities.

Seeming to refer to the same alleged assault as the previous speaker, she said that the man had punched a 60 year old woman in the face.

“He fights like a man, he can hit women like a man,” she said, although,“he dresses like a woman and he’s classed as a woman,”

 

[Samson]

Try Ireland

https://gript.ie/women-speak-about-sharing-prisons-and-homeless-hostel-facilities-with-trans-identified-males/

From the comments:

"Here's a simple proposal that might put an end to some of this madness: all men who want to be recognised as a woman are immediately sent for surgery for the removal of all relevant parts. After all, you will no longer have any need for them, will you? A plastic tube with a cork will suffice for peeing. Now, do you still want to claim to be a woman?"

I guess that's Irish humor.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Try Ireland

https://gript.ie/women-speak-about-sharing-prisons-and-homeless-hostel-facilities-with-trans-identified-males/

Homeless shelters are often dangerous places, trans inclusion has not changed that.

 

[Manger Douse]

Homeless shelters are often dangerous places, trans inclusion has not changed that.

You going to back that up or is this another trans-fact?

 

[lionking]

You going to back that up or is this another trans-fact?

No, yet another “trans fact”.

 

[lionking]

Bloody hell, it would be nice if people entered this thread with some understanding of what it’s about.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Are you kidding? The women's singles champion at Wimbledon pockets a cool £2M. The men's #50 ranked man would cruise to that money.

Based on prior matches... the male #200 ranked person would cruise with the money.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Homeless shelters are often dangerous places, trans inclusion has not changed that.

Reasonable translation for the hidden subtext:

"homeless shelters are often dangerous places, so lets make them even more dangerous, but let's be really selective and make sure they're only more dangerous for females, not for males."

 

[Emily's Cat]

No, yet another “trans fact”.

Nah, I'm going with transfact. Separating trans from fact gives the false impression that it is actually a literal fact, just modified by an adjective.

 

[Matthew Best]

Joanna Cherry KC, the SNP MP, was booked to appear at a talk at a club in Edinburgh called The Stand. The staff at the Stand decided that because of Cherry's "anti-trans" views, they weren't prepared to work on the night she was booked to appear, so the club then cancelled her appearance.

Now Cherry is demanding an apology, as well as an admission that the cancellation was wrong and illegal and a restoration of the event.

The letter her lawyers have written to The Stand is here:

https://joannacherry.scot/images/Letter to the Stand - 8 May 2023.pdf

Interestingly, The Stand is owned by another SNP MP, which must be a bit awkward.

I'll be interested to see their response.

Aaaaaand..... it's a complete climbdown from The Stand. They apologise to Cherry, and admit that their initial refusal to let her appear was discriminatory and unlawful. The event will go ahead as originally planned.

https://www.thestand.co.uk/statement/may-12-legal-letter

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65575748

 

[The Atheist]

Meanwhile, the anti-LGBT rhetoric does exactly what you knew it was going to do:

https://www.rawstory.com/bud-light-lgbtq/

 

[d4m10n]

Meanwhile, the anti-LGBT rhetoric does exactly what you knew it was going to do...

Some would surely argue that the thread title itself counts as anti-LGBT rhetoric.

 

[Samson]

Some would surely argue that the thread title itself counts as anti-LGBT rhetoric.

It is anti-T rhetoric if anti anything, but of course it is not anti anything.

 

[Samson]

This article is paywalled, but serves to blame Posie Parker for upsetting the extremely pro transitioning community throughout New Zealand. Parents are told to accept immediately their kids ideas, respect their pronouns, and to give advanced counselling for the group most disturbed, fathers.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyl...th-the-transition/OUMA5HTORJASHJDMKG77ILNUHU/

Posie Parker's most extreme comment is that parents who enable puberty blockers for their children are not fit to be parents. Of course she does not accept the boys will become women. One boy on blockers preserved sperm for his future parenting endeavors. It is not explained how that lined up but I guess the intervention was rushed after puberty onset.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Ran across an interesting article about how the transgender activists are fictionalizing Maori history in order to appropriate that history in support of their objectives.

https://quillette.com/2023/05/04/fictionalizing-indigenous-history-in-the-name-of-gender-activism/

The arrogance required to take someone else’s history and claim intimate knowledge of it is quite staggering. While Wi-Hongi may be Māori, no one Maori person speaks for all of us. Certainly, “Gender Minorities Aotearoa” does not. The group does not even comprise an Iwi. It is merely a well-funded organization whose dubious activities include sending damaging breast binders to teenage girls, and inventing new words in Te Reo (Māori language) to describe wholly colonial conceptions of gender. In so doing, these activists are pretending that concepts such as “gender affirmation” have always existed in Te Reo. This is obviously contradictory: If these ideas had “always” existed, today’s activists wouldn’t have to invent new words for them.