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Cont: Today's Mass Shooting (2)

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I recall, as a kid in the 50's, most street signs around our suburban home had numerous bullet holes. Apparently they served as ad hoc targets. And this was in Massachusetts, a pretty liberal state in the US. That said, I don't recall people shooting in the neighborhood outside of my dad who, on rare occasion, shot "varmints" with a 22 rifle that were partaking of our garden's offerings. But then he grew up in the south on a farm where such was common. And back then people used to go to the local supplies store to buy dynamite to remove stumps.

Things change at different rates in different places as culture changes.

Don't know the state of street signs in Texas but apparently having a beer and shooting in your yard was common.
 
Well, since he can't travel faster than the speed of light, he can't be "anywhere." He can be no more than 40 light-hours from Earth. So he could already be out past the Kuiper Belt. Gonna be difficult to extradite him from there!
 
a_unique_person said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04...pect-could-be-anywhere-sheriff-says/102285010
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"I tell my wife all the time, 'Stay away from the neighbours. Don't argue with them. You never know how they're going to react'," Mr Arevalo said.
"I tell her that because Texas is a state where you don't know who has a gun and who is going to react that way."
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This seems like a good time to remind everyone that this situation - where everyone actively avoids initiating any kind of confrontation or negative interaction with anyone else because there's a good chance any particular person is armed and ready to spontaneously commit homicide over the smallest perceived slight, is what gun advocates mean by the phrase "an armed society is a polite society", and they consider it the most desirable state of affairs.
 
Checkmite said:
This seems like a good time to remind everyone that this situation - where everyone actively avoids initiating any kind of confrontation or negative interaction with anyone else because there's a good chance any particular person is armed and ready to spontaneously commit homicide over the smallest perceived slight, is what gun advocates mean by the phrase "an armed society is a polite society", and they consider it the most desirable state of affairs.
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A country full of people scared to death that their neighbors might shoot them does not qualify as a society of any sort by any meaningful definition of the word
 
Steve said:
A country full of people scared to death that their neighbors might shoot them does not qualify as a society of any sort by any meaningful definition of the word
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Don't oversimplify, the US population is terrified of many different things! Like: what if a poor person gets health insurance? Or a man dresses like a woman? Or a billionaire has to pay an extra eight cents in tax? We spend tons of money fighting those things, lots more than we ever do over guns. #Priorities #GodBlessUSA #ColdDeadHandsInSexAppropriateGlovesOnly
 
autumn1971 said:
Oh, so you’ve not read the thread or any of your own posts?
Genuine question
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I've read the thread, that's why I asked for quotes.

I ask for quotes and links to things I say in this thread quite often.

Turns out most of what I say is strictly in other members' heads.
 
Jesus H Christ the Texas shooting news just gets worse and worse:

Three minors who were found uninjured but covered in blood, authorities said. Two of the female victims were discovered in the bedroom lying on top of two surviving children, authorities told ABC News.
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I can't even begin to imagine the kids growing up knowing their mother died protecting them.

And the cops have no idea where the shooter - an illegal immigrant who'd been deported 4 times in the past - is.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/manhunt-c...ion-style-shooting-killed-5/story?id=98968745
 
The Atheist said:
This is a mass shooting - he shot at multiple people and hit at least a couple of them.

It's also going to help cement a few stereotypes and do such wonders for gun sales it might as well be a false flag:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/30085...asketball-rolls-into-mans-north-carolina-yard
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A little more context for the shooting:
“I said, ‘Man, that’s crazy.’ And he said, ‘You white? I don’t even like white people. I’m going to shoot your a**,'” White alleged before saying that Singletary then pointed a gun at his daughter before White jumped in front to shield her. Singletary is black, while the White family is white.
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Another example of a shooting where race is just not that important… because reasons.
 
So sure, race is important when a racist shoots someone because of race, just as possessions are when they shoot someone in a robbery, and religion is when they shoot someone for that, and politics when they shoot someone for that, and sure, stupidity and nastiness are equal opportunity employers. And sure enough, ignorance, desperation, recklessness and all sorts of other things tend to settle to the bottom in any society. A hundred years ago, you probably could have opened any small town paper and found editorials decrying the disproportionate crime rate among Italians and Poles.

So what is actually being said, of any more importance than the trivially obvious point that guns don't kill people, people do? I'm sure there are plenty of opportunities here and elsewhere to argue about the socio-economic factors that lead to various crimes and their distribution, but most here are noting that the common factor is a culture in which guns are seen as a solution to things, and where they are abundant and easy to acquire.

If you live in a society where guns are considered a useful solution to problems, you can talk about people's perception of problems, but you can also talk about how that society perceives the solution.
 
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That is not the case being made.
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What is the case being made? It sort of seems like the case being made is that the "real" issue is an epidemic of people with higher concentrations of melanin shooting people with lower concentrations of melanin, and that insignificant events like the slaughter of concert goers, school children, church members, parade attendees, movie theater patrons, mall shoppers, business employees... as well as any similar events in which the perpetrator had racist motivations, but was shooting people with higher concentrations of melanin, are being used by the crafty media to obfuscate said "real" issue. But it's hard to tell because Bog seems reluctant to go any further than implying as much.
 
Foster Zygote said:
What is the case being made? It sort of seems like the case being made is that the "real" issue is an epidemic of people with higher concentrations of melanin shooting people with lower concentrations of melanin, and that insignificant events like the slaughter of concert goers, school children, church members, parade attendees, movie theater patrons, mall shoppers, business employees... as well as any similar events in which the perpetrator had racist motivations, but was shooting people with higher concentrations of melanin, are being used by the crafty media to obfuscate said "real" issue. But it's hard to tell because Bog seems reluctant to go any further than implying as much.
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I think not so hard to tell as hard to substantiate. Giving credit where due, a poster whose views are unpopular or just plain obnoxious is well advised to stick to implication, both for tactical reasons of deniability and to place responsibility for the breach of forum rules on his opponents. You can't really fault a person for playing the game with skill.
 
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