“Woke”

[wareyin]

Yes the January 6th violence was a direct threat to democracy. However the violence done during the BLM protests had nothing to do with democracy.

And yet, you were the one to compare the 2 and find the tiny amount of violence at BLM protests to be more important than a direct threat to democracy. Funny, that.

 

[Hercules56]

And yet, you were the one to compare the 2 and find the tiny amount of violence at BLM protests to be more important than a direct threat to democracy. Funny, that.

"Tiny amount of violence"??

In just Minneapolis alone, there were at least 164 cases of arson against commercial buildings, schools, homes, non-profit organizations. 1,500 locations suffered property damage costing $550 million. 35 families were left homeless. And that's JUST in one city. But you disregard it cuz you don't live there, and it was all in the name of "justice".

In MI, more than 100 buildings were damaged.

There was violence in many other cities throughout the country. But again I guess that doesn't matter to you because it was all in the name of Justice.

 

[wareyin]

"Tiny amount of violence"??

In just Minneapolis alone, there were at least 164 cases of arson against commercial buildings, schools, homes, non-profit organizations. 1,500 locations suffered property damage costing $550 million. 35 families were left homeless. And that's JUST in one city. But you disregard it cuz you don't live there, and it was all in the name of "justice".

In MI, more than 100 buildings were damaged.

There was violence in many other cities throughout the country. But again I guess that doesn't matter to you because it was all in the name of Justice.

Normally when people are talking about "violence" it doesn't mean "property damage". But "law and order" types do like to play fast and loose with the 2, conflating them to make those scary people saying "black lives matter" look even scarier to the gullible that consume so much right wing "news" content.

 

[Hercules56]

Normally when people are talking about "violence" it doesn't mean "property damage". But "law and order" types do like to play fast and loose with the 2, conflating them to make those scary people saying "black lives matter" look even scarier to the gullible that consume so much right wing "news" content.

Arson is definitely a form of violence. Deadly violence that can kill. I know you guys think it's a benign and peaceful form of protest, but luckily the law sees things differently. Luckily the law in pretty much every state says you can use deadly force to prevent someone from committing an act of arson, and I wish many more of these acts of arson were stopped by brave people willing to use whatever means necessary to stop these terrible and dangerous acts.

 

[wareyin]

Arson is definitely a form of violence. Deadly violence that can kill. I know you guys think it's a benign and peaceful form of protest, but luckily the law sees things differently. Luckily the law in pretty much every state says you can use deadly force to prevent someone from committing an act of arson, and I wish many more of these acts of arson were stopped by brave people willing to use whatever means necessary to stop these terrible and dangerous acts.

Usually "violence" is used when it's towards a person, but I guess to people who value property over the lives of people, anything that damages property is obviously the worse of the 2.

 

[Hercules56]

Usually "violence" is used when it's towards a person, but I guess to people who value property over the lives of people, anything that damages property is obviously the worse of the 2.

Of course whenever violent protesters commit an act of arson, they thoroughly check to make sure that the structure they are about to torch has nobody inside, and there are no nearby structures that might also be affected by the fire and have people in them.

I know you guys think arson is no big deal, but luckily intelligent people who make the laws for our country understand how dangerous it can be and allow the use of deadly force by pretty much anyone to stop it. I really do pray that nobody one day decides to burn down your house or your place of business.

 

[wareyin]

Of course whenever violent protesters commit an act of arson, they thoroughly check to make sure that the structure they are about to torch has nobody inside, and there are no nearby structures that might also be affected by the fire and have people in them.

I know you guys think arson is no big deal, but luckily intelligent people who make the laws for our country understand how dangerous it can be and allow the use of deadly force by pretty much anyone to stop it. I really do pray that nobody one day decides to burn down your house or your place of business.

Yet again a "law and order" type conflates property damage with killing people, pretends that arson killed anyone in the BLM protests, and continues to ignore that the vast majority of actual violence was initiated by police.

I've already pointed out that your claim to have been to a peaceful BLM protest should have shown you that the "BLM protesters were all violent, destructive monsters" narrative that Fox News fed you was wrong, but somehow this won't sink in with you.

 

[Hercules56]

Yet again a "law and order" type conflates property damage with killing people, pretends that arson killed anyone in the BLM protests, and continues to ignore that the vast majority of actual violence was initiated by police.

I've already pointed out that your claim to have been to a peaceful BLM protest should have shown you that the "BLM protesters were all violent, destructive monsters" narrative that Fox News fed you was wrong, but somehow this won't sink in with you.

I never said all or even the majority of BLM protests included violence. You're just putting words in my mouth or beating a straw man. Something you seem to do a lot of here with lots of posters.

Hint: it doesn't help you win arguments.

 

[wareyin]

I never said all or even the majority of BLM protests included violence. You're just putting words in my mouth or beating a straw man. Something you seem to do a lot of here with lots of posters.

Hint: it doesn't help you win arguments.

When you and Fox News keep banging the gong of violent BLM protests, do you think the rest of us can't see that tactic? Or was it just that Fox was so successful at imprinting that idea on you that you can't see how transparent it is to anyone who didn't drink the koolaid?

 

[Hercules56]

When you and Fox News keep banging the gong of violent BLM protests, do you think the rest of us can't see that tactic? Or was it just that Fox was so successful at imprinting that idea on you that you can't see how transparent it is to anyone who didn't drink the koolaid?

I don't watch Fox News. The images implanted in my brain of burning buildings comes from CNN and Yahoo News.

 

[wareyin]

I don't watch Fox News. The images implanted in my brain of burning buildings comes from CNN and Yahoo News.

Dude, all your culture war rants are coming directly from Fox News. Your "woke mobs destroying colleges", your "if we're forced to have black people in our white movies then how come nobody is forcing black movies to have enough white actors", your "why does anyone care about the January 6th patriots when the real issue was the property damage in those violent BLM protests".

You're basically their official spokesperson here after you've linked to them and parroted their talking points so much.

 

[Hercules56]

Yet again a "law and order" type conflates property damage with killing people, pretends that arson killed anyone in the BLM protests, and continues to ignore that the vast majority of actual violence was initiated by police.

I've already pointed out that your claim to have been to a peaceful BLM protest should have shown you that the "BLM protesters were all violent, destructive monsters" narrative that Fox News fed you was wrong, but somehow this won't sink in with you.

So the next time somebody complains about a black church or a synagogue or a mosque being firebombed, your reaction will be "relax buddy, its just property damage, it's no big deal. Have a donut."?

 

[Hercules56]

Dude, all your culture war rants are coming directly from Fox News. Your "woke mobs destroying colleges", your "if we're forced to have black people in our white movies then how come nobody is forcing black movies to have enough white actors", your "why does anyone care about the January 6th patriots when the real issue was the property damage in those violent BLM protests". ....

Wow, you literally refuse to stop putting words into my mouth, falsely claiming that I have said some very stupid and ridiculous things that I clearly have not said. No wonder so many people decide to stop debating with you.

 

[wareyin]

Wow, you literally refuse to stop putting words into my mouth, falsely claiming that I have said some very stupid and ridiculous things that I clearly have not said. No wonder so many people decide to stop debating with you.

Herc, the threads are still there. You didn't delete them.

eta: "woke mobs destroying college education"
"how come there aren't any white people in Wakanda if we're forced to have a black person in Frozen 2"
The last couple of pages in this thread for your "violence in BLM is more important than January 6th"

And then theres: "black reparations should be regulated so we know they won't spend them on things we don't like"
"Open borders (wink wink, mexicans) are bad"
"they fire people just for being white!"
"white guilt"

 

[Hercules56]

Herc, the threads are still there. You didn't delete them.

Claiming that I called the 1/6 rioters "patriots" is either dishonest or delusional.

Only you can tell us which one it is.

 

[wareyin]

Claiming that I called the 1/6 rioters "patriots" is either dishonest or delusional.

Only you can tell us which one it is.

No, your minimization of their faults was slightly more subtle than my paraphrase of your argument. But only slightly.

 

[catsmate]

If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth; if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth produced by its collision with error.
-- J.S. Mill

So no actual answer to GF's question then.

 

[catsmate]

"Woke" basically means that somebody considers themselves to be awake, while everyone who doesn't agree with them or see things their way from a social political sense are still "asleep".

Basically anyone who self identifies as "Woke" is almost always a arrogant, condescending, virtue signaling ass.

Conspiracy theorists also see themselves as being "awake" while everyone else is still asleep.

Oh good grief this is just pathetic, posturing, nonsense.

 

[catsmate]

There hasn't been anything of interest written by Cohen in the last 20 years, he's a stirling example of trot gravitating to thatcherism after the USSR collapsed, while still trying to claim he's a socialist.

I'm surprised he hasn't migrated to Spiked.

 

[catsmate]

You prove his points beautifully. No argument, just try to smear the heretic.

Try looking in the mirror.