Nobody has got ghost, according to Quran.

[Leumas]

We don't need such ghouls in our bodies anyway.

Do you ever answer questions put to you in response to the codswallop that is your posts???

Why have you not answered the questions posed to you in this post and this post at the very lest??

Are you just trolling or are afraid to ever admit that you cannot and will never dare to answer any serious questions that might challenge the arrant poppycock that is in your posts???



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[Norman Alexander]

We don't need such ghouls in our bodies anyway.

You were talking about ghosts, not ghouls.

What is the difference between a ghost and a ghoul?

A scary question indeed!

Ghost

A ghost, or spectre or phantom, is an apparition of a dead spirit or a soul. The descriptions of this apparition varies from invisible presence to a translucent, albeit visible shape.

In many traditional accounts, ghosts are out for revenge or have to stay on earth because of the bad things they did during their lifetime as mortals.

Ghoul

A ghoul is an undead monster which eats human flesh. It’s an evil demon who is able to take the form of an animal often a hyena, but also the form of the most recent person whom it has eaten.

Even though it can change its shape, it has one unchanging feature: donkey’s hooves for feet. This creature also drinks blood and steals coins.

There are big differences between these two supernatural creatures.

https://www.star-ts.com/better-english/what-is-the-difference-between-ghost-and-ghoul/
Now you know.

 

[JoeMorgue]

//Slight hijack//

There's a minor online debate going around know about how many ghosts visited Scrooge in a Christmas Carol.

I say one. Only Bob Marley was a ghost, i.e. he used to be a living person. Christmas Past, Present, and Future were spirits, they were sentient representations of something that was never a human.

 

[JayUtah]

Or they were all bits of underdone potato.

 

[JoeMorgue]

But this is not the important question.

Are there dragon or wyrm in the Quran? I'm told that's a very important distinction.

 

[JayUtah]

Are there dragon or wyrm in the Quran? I'm told that's a very important distinction.

Indeed. Choose the wrong one and it will sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

 

[JimOfAllTrades]

Indeed. Choose the wrong one and it will sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

Jeez, that's all I need. I already have to answer to the Coca Cola company!

 

[Navigator]

The OP is the equivalent of a Jehovah's Witness arguing the same points against a Catholic.

So there is a sect within the Islamic Religion which mirrors the JW-beliefs. That is not surprising.

The same argument has been going on since the dawn of organised religion.

It amounts to trying to explain the phenomena of alternate experiences, which no doubt have been happening way before the advent of the Garden and Adam...if one fellows the notion that Adam wasn't the first Human YHVH/Allah created.

 

[Navigator]

AIUI there's no such thing as a ghost in Christianity either. The dead remain in their graves until Judgement Day, when they will be physically resurrected to inhabit the Kingdom of Heaven which will be established right here on earth (unless they don't meet the grade and get tossed into a pit of fire instead, of course). So Christians who tell their children that their deceased Granny is in Heaven and watching over them right now are not following the teachings of their church.

This is the JW interpretation of the scripts. There is plenty of alternate script which strongly implies that not all who die, end up in the graveyard of materialism.

 

[Navigator]

The cells in your body are constantly renewing. Or your body is being renewed as the pieces of you fall to the ground (your fingernails or the first teeth that fall out). So the old dead body parts no longer belong to you.

This is the case when one identifies as the body, rather than the personality/soul grown within the body.

Pieces of your body falling off is just recycling matter...just as it is thought that our bodies are made up of long-gone stars - the recycling of matter occurs constantly.

Those who don't self identify as bodies, obviously see things differently.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

This is the JW interpretation of the scripts. There is plenty of alternate script which strongly implies that not all who die, end up in the graveyard of materialism.

Except this is one of the few things that the JWs get "right" in the sense that it's what's in the bible. The general view of heaven being full of the beloved dead was an invention that came later than, and directly contradicts the bible.

I suspect, although I do not know, that it was done because it is less sad and much easier to gull people into accepting your religion if you say that when you die you go to paradise and can see your grandparents again as opposed to you sit in the ground for however long until Jesus comes back and then you're judged and most of you won't go to heaven.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

This is the case when one identifies as the body, rather than the personality/soul grown within the body.

Pieces of your body falling off is just recycling matter...just as it is thought that our bodies are made up of long-gone stars - the recycling of matter occurs constantly.

Those who don't self identify as bodies, obviously see things differently.

The "personality" is just an emergent property of the body though. No soul, no magic, just chemicals and electrical impulses and matter.

 

[Navigator]

The "personality" is just an emergent property of the body though. No soul, no magic, just chemicals and electrical impulses and matter.

According to Emergent Theory, you are correct that anyone who believes in said theory, would see it that way.

 

[Navigator]

Except this is one of the few things that the JWs get "right" in the sense that it's what's in the bible. The general view of heaven being full of the beloved dead was an invention that came later than, and directly contradicts the bible.

It would be interesting to view your sources re this interpretation.
From my own studies, which also include reports of NDEs and other alternate experiences, coupled with the realization that the bible is made up of differing beliefs about what happens after a personality's body dies - the stories which claim said personalities die along with the body made be incorrect.

I suspect, although I do not know, that it was done because it is less sad and much easier to gull people into accepting your religion if you say that when you die you go to paradise and can see your grandparents again as opposed to you sit in the ground for however long until Jesus comes back and then you're judged and most of you won't go to heaven.

I can only cross such bridges as they present. Until then, Jesus has yet to return, and my body is yet to die.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

It would be interesting to view your sources re this interpretation.
From my own studies, which also include reports of NDEs and other alternate experiences, coupled with the realization that the bible is made up of differing beliefs about what happens after a personality's body dies - the stories which claim said personalities die along with the body made be incorrect.



I can only cross such bridges as they present. Until then, Jesus has yet to return, and my body is yet to die.

NDE's are junk. People see what they expect to see, there's no evidence any of them went anywhere.

According to Emergent Theory, you are correct that anyone who believes in said theory, would see it that way.

According to reality, that's what it is.

 

[Emre_1974tr]

Meryem

56. Also mention in the Book the case of Idris: He was a man of truth (and sincerity), (and) a prophet:

57. We raised him in a high/lofty place.


Al-i Imran 55. Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.

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IS JESUS ALIVE?



Let me briefly answer this frequently asked question again:


Prophet Jesus died, but just like other prophets and martyrs, he was created again in the Paradise (Floor of Lord).


In other words, living in a Paradise now.

In short, not only Jesus, but all the prophets and messengers live in other Universe.

Regards.

Emre_1974tr

 

[MarkCorrigan]

Why do you keep trotting out stuff like this when nearly everyone you're talking to is an atheist? No, Jesus isn't still alive, because if he did live he died 2000 years ago.

 

[Steve]

//Slight hijack//

There's a minor online debate going around know about how many ghosts visited Scrooge in a Christmas Carol.

I say one. Only Bob Marley was a ghost, i.e. he used to be a living person. Christmas Past, Present, and Future were spirits, they were sentient representations of something that was never a human.

Well, he may be a ghost in some circles. But I don't think he appeared in a story written 100 years before his birth.

 

[Navigator]

This is the case when one identifies as the body, rather than the personality/soul grown within the body.

Pieces of your body falling off is just recycling matter...just as it is thought that our bodies are made up of long-gone stars - the recycling of matter occurs constantly.

Those who don't self identify as bodies, obviously see things differently.

The "personality" is just an emergent property of the body though. No soul, no magic, just chemicals and electrical impulses and matter.

According to Emergent Theory, you are correct that anyone who believes in said theory, would see it that way.

According to reality, that's what it is.

Unless one takes their *collective reports[NDE/OOBE et al] as evidence. [*Data of Experience]

{It's not like we can ask Randi to test the spirits on that subject.}

But even if anyone is looking for some way in which to do the science and perhaps confirm the phenomena as 'junk' - I continue to steer away from accepting belief in that conclusion, just as certainly as I keep an open mind about the data of experience aforementioned.

NDE's are junk. People see what they expect to see, there's no evidence any of them went anywhere.

The Mind is a powerful thing, and we don't even know if what we are experiencing, is inside some unseen Mind, so even then, there are places to go and experience as a reality.

I prefer to remain alert rather than fogged-up in belief.

 

[Carlotta]

Unless one takes their *collective reports[NDE/OOBE et al] as evidence. [*Data of Experience]

{It's not like we can ask Randi to test the spirits on that subject.}

But even if anyone is looking for some way in which to do the science and perhaps confirm the phenomena as 'junk' - I continue to steer away from accepting belief in that conclusion, just as certainly as I keep an open mind about the data of experience aforementioned.



The Mind is a powerful thing, and we don't even know if what we are experiencing, is inside some unseen Mind, so even then, there are places to go and experience as a reality.

I prefer to remain alert rather than fogged-up in belief.

Please, who are you quoting here? In the first part of the post.