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Nobody has got ghost, according to Quran.

And In the Qur'an, the spirit word is passed in singular form. The word "ervah", which is a plural of spirit, never goes in verses. This gives us another proof of the absence of souls.
 
And In the Qur'an, the spirit word is passed in singular form. The word "ervah", which is a plural of spirit, never goes in verses. This gives us another proof of the absence of souls.


  1. It is Arwah (أَرْواح) not "ervah".... and that is a colloquialism modern word.
  2. There are words that are the same plural and singular... like Insan (إنسان)
  3. Arabic script being an ABJAD is flawed and incomplete and confusing... so the use of diacritics (Harakat حركات) will reveal that there indeed is a plural form of the word.
  4. If you notice the word AlRa-wh (ألرَوْح) is the singular form but AlRooh (ألرُّوح) is the plural form.
  5. Look at verses Q78:38 and Q70:4 both have the word being used to mean plural not singular, i.e. many queuing up with many angels.
  6. Look at Q15:29 (which you used in a previous post) and Q32:9 were it is clear that Allah does the job of blowing one of his plural spirits in every human.
  7. Also... there is another word which also means Soul or Spirit.... AlNafs (ألنَفْس)... and this has plural (ألأنفاس) see Q12:53, Q7:52, Q79:40 and Q89:27.


So... no... you are wrong...



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@Emre_1974tr How can our bodies physically exist in another universe while simultaneously doing duty as worm food in this one?



The cells in your body are constantly renewing. Or your body is being renewed as the pieces of you fall to the ground (your fingernails or the first teeth that fall out). So the old dead body parts no longer belong to you.
 
The cells in your body are constantly renewing. Or your body is being renewed as the pieces of you fall to the ground (your fingernails or the first teeth that fall out). So the old dead body parts no longer belong to you.

This completely misses the point.

Yes, when I trim my fingernails I discard a portion of my body. They don't belong to me anymore in that sense, but there's still a very large part of me that still remains. It doesn't belong to me; it is me. You're being asked whether you, as a Muslim, believe in animistic dualism. Your subject line is trying to say that you don't. But if all of you is in a grave decomposing after you die, what part of you is dealing with the afterlife?
 
Of course. They are/jinns physical creatures made of fire. They just have different abilities.


  1. Where are they?
  2. Do you know what fire is?
  3. What ability does a fire have?
  4. Where are they hiding?
  5. Why can't we see them?
  6. Do you know the difference between fairy tales and reality?
 
The cells in your body are constantly renewing. Or your body is being renewed as the pieces of you fall to the ground (your fingernails or the first teeth that fall out). So the old dead body parts no longer belong to you.


So when the whole body is dead and buried 6 feet under... what is the "you" that is left behind and to whom now this dead rotting body does not belong any longer???
 
Emre is thinking of efreeti, which are from the elemental plane of fire. Djinn are from the elemental plane of air.

Of course, there's also the dao, from the elemental plane of earth, and the marid, from the elemental plane of water. That rounds out the class of elementals known as "genies".
 
This discussion with Emre is, frankly, closer to a discussion of the abilities and powers of the characters in a game of Warcraft, or Dungeons and Dragons. It's not even "religion" any more.
 
I read up a bit on hindu and buddhist religions and this type of belief is common. I didn't know it spread into islam too.
They love thier collection of characters.
 
Emre is thinking of efreeti, which are from the elemental plane of fire. Djinn are from the elemental plane of air.

Of course, there's also the dao, from the elemental plane of earth, and the marid, from the elemental plane of water. That rounds out the class of elementals known as "genies".

So this particular superstition is clearly rooted in the early, erroneous, belief that everything was made from four elements: fire, air, earth and water. But we now know that there are over a hundred elements, proving that the Qu'ran does not contain scientific knowledge that was not yet discovered ...

Oh hang on, sorry, wrong wilfully ignorant fundamentalist poster. :o
 
'Nother jumprope song.

Jeenie
In the bottle
Jeenie
In the glass
Jeenie
In the bathtub
Washin'
His
Yass yass yass.

My sister
Knows a freedie
My auntie
Knows a dao
Mama knows
A marid
Oh boy and
HOW!

Burpee Shave
 
So this particular superstition is clearly rooted in the early, erroneous, belief that everything was made from four elements: fire, air, earth and water. But we now know that there are over a hundred elements, proving that the Qu'ran does not contain scientific knowledge that was not yet discovered ...

Oh hang on, sorry, wrong wilfully ignorant fundamentalist poster. :o

When the Djinn met the Phosphorus elemental (Fozzy?), they got on like a house on fire.
 
The Chinese belief was in five elements: water, metal, fire, earth, and

WOOD.

What'll we call the djin of wood?
 

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