Electric universe theories here.

[jonesdave116]

Dr. Donald Scott: Intergalactic Birkeland Currents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6VUy5Bt5Es

@ ~ 1:00;

Birkeland currents don't only go between the Sun and the Earth, they go between the Sun and Saturn, and the Sun and Uranus, and Neptune......

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Hannes Alfven:

The correlation of the magnetic storms and aurorae with the solar activity indicates that they are due to some agent emitted from the sun. As this agent causes magnetic and electric disturbances on the earth, it probably consists of charged particles. But, as Schuster has shown, the emission of a sufficient amount of particles, all having the same sign, is impossible because it would give rise to an enormous space charge. This difficulty is avoided if the emitted agent is assumed to consist of the equal amount of positive and negative particles.
Consequently the general nature of the current system during the main phase of a magnetic storm must be somewhat as follows. The stream approaching the earth contains positive and negative charge in equal amounts so that the electric current is zero.
Through the action of the magnetic field of the earth the paths of the positives and of the negatives become differentiated, but until the particles reach the forbidden region, the space charge is always zero because the positives and negatives neutralize each other.

 

[jonesdave116]

Answered. Summarizing, we report important properties of CSs formed in the turbulent solar wind that are associated with electrons becoming the main current carriers.


Mainstream, you, have only recently “discovered” this.

Nope, currents in the solar wind have been known about for decades.

 

[jonesdave116]

Don Scott was right...outplayed by retired electrical engineer and neo-Velikovskian mythologist, ouch for the mainstream!

That is the execrable 'paper' where the clown tries to claim the Butterfly nebula (M2-9) is a z-pinch!

Here is a rough outline of what a z-pinch does;

>>>>>>>>>>>>*>>>>>>>>>>>

where > is the current and its direction of flow, and * is where it pinches.

And here is what we see from Doppler measurements of the M2-9 nebula;

<<<<<<<<<<<<*>>>>>>>>>>>

where < & > are the plasma and its direction of travel, and * is the central star.

M2-9: A PLANETARY NEBULA WITH AN ERUPTIVE NUCLEUS?
Balick, B. (1989!!!!)
https://adsabs.harvard.edu/pdf/1989AJ.....97..476B

See Fig. 2.

 

[Sol88]

Will you learn to read? The solar wind can contain currents. Got it? Is the solar wind as a whole a current, as claimed by the clown Scott? No, it isn't. As Alfven keeps telling you. Want me to quote him for the 20th time? Which part of this are you not understanding? What is the Debye length? What does it describe?
Do I need to draw a picture? Are Alfven's words too complicated for you?

You ok mate?

What the hell are you banging on about? Did you think one gianormous big power cable or something?

 

[tusenfem]

Seems it’s pretty quite, magnetically, whilst whistling thru the centre of a force free electric current.

So again we get nothing, apart from your "current" claim.
Please show us in detail what you mean with this sentence.
There is no use discussing stuff if you cannot express yourself correctly.

 

[tusenfem]

For prosperity...

If only you understood what was written.

 

[tusenfem]

Fig. 5: The pitch angle of the helical total magnetic field, B vector, that encircles a field-aligned current changes continuously with increasing radial distance from the central axis of the current.

There are no abrupt quantum jumps or breaks in this angle’s change or in the field’s magnitude. One cycle (0◦–360◦) of the pitch angle is shown. The cycle is sketched at eleven incrementally increasing sample values of radius.

The shaded arrows show the total magnetic field direction at each value of radius, r, and the white arrows show the field direction at an increment just below each of those values of radius

As observed in the switchbacks!

Then I am sure you can give clear examples of this "pitch angle rotation" at a switchback.

And why on Earth would one come up with "there are no abrupt quantum jumps". Who in his right mind would expect that there are "quantum jumps" in the magnetic field? Scott trying to make himself sound important.

 

[tusenfem]

Answered. Summarizing, we report important properties of CSs formed in the turbulent solar wind that are associated with electrons becoming the main current carriers.


Mainstream, you, have only recently “discovered” this.

Why would a current sheet be "quiet" as described by Dudok de Wit?

 

[Sol88]

Why would a current sheet be "quiet" as described by Dudok de Wit?

Instead of force free you mean? Or?

Electrons carry the bulk of the current. All the little electrons all going the same direction bit like laminar flow.

Less noise that way, so they are “quite”. I’d hazard a guess and say they are hard to detect except to fly thru one.

Not some much “dark” but “quite”,

What were you thinking?

 

[Sol88]

Lots of new papers to read. Cheers for the links.

Looking at reverse flux tubes in Saturn along with flux tubes in and out of the sun.

All electric fields and currents so far.

Oh, and the magnetic bit you look at.

 

[W.D.Clinger]

Quoting for posterity:

For prosperity...

Peach and bong strife.

If only you understood what was written.

 

[tusenfem]

Instead of force free you mean? Or?

Electrons carry the bulk of the current. All the little electrons all going the same direction bit like laminar flow.

Less noise that way, so they are “quite”. I’d hazard a guess and say they are hard to detect except to fly thru one.

Not some much “dark” but “quite”,

What were you thinking?

I am thinking that you actually mean "quite" instead of "quiet".
YOU bring up all kinds of stuff, and then ask an explanation from me????

 

[Steve]

I am thinking that you actually mean "quite" instead of "quiet".
YOU bring up all kinds of stuff, and then ask an explanation from me????

Well Sol88 obviously needs someone to try to explain it. The understanding of the topic Sol88 has displayed in these threads is rather lacking. And Sol88's other self-researched sources certainly explain nothing.

 

[jonesdave116]

You ok mate?

What the hell are you banging on about? Did you think one gianormous big power cable or something?

What are you banging on about? Other than a subject in which you are clearly clueless? The solar wind is not a current. Scott claims it is. That is impossible, as Alfven explained. Ergo, Scott is wrong, and your electric sun woo is impossible. However, we already knew that. That is why it does not exist in the peer-reviewed literature, and is only believed by the hard of thinking. It is flat earth level idiocy.

 

[jonesdave116]

Did you think one gianormous big power cable or something?

That is what Scott claims. Do I need to explain your own woo to you? Again? He wants Birkeland currents coming from the Sun to power the aurorae. That is idiocy squared. As Alfven explained.

 

[tusenfem]

That is what Scott claims. Do I need to explain your own woo to you? Again? He wants Birkeland currents coming from the Sun to power the aurorae. That is idiocy squared. As Alfven explained.

I think Sol88 is lost, somehow.
He drops stuff in this thread, and then wants it explained.
And he makes EU claims, and then attacks them as if we made those claims (like the ginormous power cable or whatever).

 

[Sol88]

The particles reach the forbidden region??

What forbidden region?

 

[Steve]

The particles reach the forbidden region??

What forbidden region?

Well that sure came out of left field! You ok?

 

[jonesdave116]

The particles reach the forbidden region??

What forbidden region?

 

[Sol88]

Do you think Alvfen may like access to update his initial thoughts?


He’s still on the money considering...