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Transwomen are not women - X (XY?)

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LondonJohn said:
LOL. "Refuted by bigots" =/= "refuted"


Maybe I'll try to make it easier for you:

It's now precisely as anti-mainstream-medicine and offensive to say "transwomen are simply men with mental health disorders" as it is to say "homosexuals are simply people with mental health disorders".

I realise you may find it uncomfortable to confront that truth internally, and that you may choose to deal with the truth by flat-out denying it. But there it is. Fortunately society will move on without the views of people like you.
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But does saying that transwomen are not "men with mental health disorders" mean they are women?

If they are not men, is it a given that they must be women or is that just a default because that's the only category we have left? I think it's been mentioned before that some groups have a third classification that people we term "trans-women" would fall into.

If you don't link sex and gender absolutely, it opens up space for more than two categories. Or even a sex/gender matrix. There are some experiential differences it seems that are mutually exclusive between trans-women and women. So maybe the "man" "woman" classes are too broad a brush to be accurate.
 
Elaedith said:
As far as I know she is accused of opposing medical transition for minors.
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This strikes me as a good reason to have her sacked, assuming she works for a gender clinic which operates along the lines of the (erstwhile) Tavistock. Otherwise, it strikes me as a political opinion which probably shouldn't have any bearing on her job, unless Canadian nurses are the one doing referrals to gender clinics rather than docs & PAs.
 
d4m10n said:
This strikes me as a good reason to have her sacked, assuming she works for a gender clinic which operates along the lines of the (erstwhile) Tavistock. Otherwise, it strikes me as a political opinion which probably shouldn't have any bearing on her job, unless Canadian nurses are the one doing referrals to gender clinics rather than docs & PAs.
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I think she expressed general gender-critical views, including support for JK Rowling. I also saw something about current testimony concerning transition of minors and witnesses being called about that.

I found this from Tribunal Tweets

British Columbia College of Nurses and Midwives vs Amy Hamm
 
Here is an article from today about the case.

A Canadian Nurse Understood Biology… Now She Risks Losing Her Licence

Two members of the public – neither of whom were Hamm’s patients – had complained, essentially, that she was a “transphobe.”

Despite Hamm’s flawless track record and her history working with transgender patients over the course of her decade-long career, the BCCNM took the random complaints seriously. Six months later, Hamm was sent a document over 300-pages in length detailing dubious “evidence” of her transphobia in the form of her published articles and posts on social media.
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Tha article states that what sparked the initial complaints was that Hamm erected a billboard locally that read "I [heart] J K Rowling", on the author's birthday. Most of the rest of the complaints seem to boil down to the allegation that Hamm believes that biological sex is an actual thing.
 
Support for JK Rowling, who does not appear to have said or done anything even slightly 'anti trans'.

That particular storm in a teacup looks incredibly manufactured from whole cloth.
 
Your midnight check-in on the petition reports 71,868 signatures, so 416 new signatures today. Back down to the sort of numbers we were seeing at the end of last week, but still easily ahead of target.

The new magic number is 305.8.
 
novaphile said:
Support for JK Rowling, who does not appear to have said or done anything even slightly 'anti trans'.

That particular storm in a teacup looks incredibly manufactured from whole cloth.
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I don't think it's manufactured in quite that way. It's standard trans-rights screeching whenever anyone says anything that even tips a nod to other people having rights, amplified by her fame and public profile.

I saw a TRA repeatedly denouncing a tweet that read (excuse the earthy language) "nobody gets pregnant up the bum-hole" as first "transphobia" and then "doubling down on transphobia". The essence of the conversation was that only females have the necessary wherewithal to become pregnant. This is transphobic. It's not orchestrated, it's just the way the concentrated essence of narcissism manifests in these guys.
 
Rolfe said:
...article states that what sparked the initial complaints was that Hamm erected a billboard locally that read "I [heart] J K Rowling", on the author's birthday. Most of the rest of the complaints seem to boil down to the allegation that Hamm believes that biological sex is an actual thing.
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I think that's about right.

The core concept of cancel culture is reacting to speech with punishment in lieu of debate.
 
Rolfe said:
Tha article states that what sparked the initial complaints was that Hamm erected a billboard locally that read "I [heart] J K Rowling", on the author's birthday. Most of the rest of the complaints seem to boil down to the allegation that Hamm believes that biological sex is an actual thing.
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Oh yea, I remember that billboard, it ignited a spate of Rowling Derangement Syndrome.

Speaking or RDS, and Canada. There's (trans of course) bookbinder not only selling rebound Harry Potter books with Rowling's name removed nut also offering to derowlinginize your own copies of the books if you so desire.
 
Stout said:
Speaking or RDS, and Canada. There's (trans of course) bookbinder not only selling rebound Harry Potter books with Rowling's name removed nut also offering to derowlinginize your own copies of the books if you so desire.
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Because as we all know, cisphobes love Harry Potter and want to read and re-read his mythic cycle, just so long as they don't have to be reminded that the bard who penned his exploits isn't one of them.
 
People have said that's not illegal, but I'm not so sure. At one time books had on their copyright pages an injunction forbidding the book from being sold or lent out in any cover other than that provided by the publisher. (So much for the art competitions we had at school, to re-cover a school library book with a cover of our own design.) Even if that doesn't apply, I have a feeling that removing the author's name from the copyright page, at the very least, may be some sort of offence.
 
Yes, there seems to be a lot of hesitancy to avoid the franchise entirely. It's a woke condrum I suppose. Like those people who play that Potter inspired game where you run around with a stick between your legs. They couldn't stop playing it, they just had to erase the original name but we know, every time they pick up a broom, that word pops into their heads. Not to mention the current hilarity over the new video game. Buy it, play it, but just don't talk about it.

I was wondering about the copyright issue. Removing Rowling's name is akin to buying a print cropping off the artist's name and selling it as a generic.
 
I’m not a Harry Potter fan, but I did buy all of Rowland’s C B Strike detective series as a protest against her treatment by TRAs.
 
Stout said:
Speaking or RDS, and Canada. There's (trans of course) bookbinder not only selling rebound Harry Potter books with Rowling's name removed nut also offering to derowlinginize your own copies of the books if you so desire.
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If they are buying legitimate copies which they then deface, I'm not sure what this is supposed to accomplish. Rowling still gets her royalty from each copy. All this bookbinder is doing is increasing the cost of the books to the transactivist idiots.

Which, hey, more power to this bookbinder. If woke customers want to waste money on symbolic gestures that accomplish nothing, who are we to get in xer way?
 
Horhang said:
To quote others when this happens,”that thing that is never going to happen happened again.”
A 17 year old girl after showering at a YMCA encountered a naked adult male in the locker room, hid in the showers in fear and then reported the incident.
Local news coverage including the 17 year old speaking to city council:

https://www.kusi.com/ymca-of-san-di...t-on-locker-room-incident-with-underage-girl/
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The statement by the YMCA was ridiculous. They apologised to the under age girl, but reiterated that intact men who claim to be woman can use the women’s locker room. They better keep that apology close at hand because it would not surprise to see more self ID’d transwomen taking the opportunity to upset young women.
 
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