jonesdave116
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The sun doesn’t have a predefined charge the leaks away over time. It’s dynamic, it’s part of a curcuit.
To what extent...?
The Sun MAINTAINS a slight positive charge space compared to the surrounding plasma.
It cannot possibly be part of a circuit. How is it connecting to anything outside of the heliosphere? It is throwing off a solar wind, at ~ 400 km/s. That wind carries the solar magnetic field all the way to the heliopause, where it will pile-up against the ISM field. Nothing is getting in past that field, unless it has relativistic energy. Cosmic rays, in other words. ~ 99% of them are ions. If I had to guess how many actually reach the solar surface, I would hazard that it is as close to zero as makes no difference.
The sun doesn’t have a predefined charge the leaks away over time. It’s dynamic, it’s part of a curcuit.
To what extent...?
So that one got busted right away. Any other ideas how energy gets into your dynamic system, now that you tell us that it isn’t there from the start?
So that one got busted right away. Any other ideas how energy gets into your dynamic system, now that you tell us that it isn’t there from the start?
That’s the one. Big electric light bulb, an arc lamp.
I asked where the energy comes from. Are you claiming that the Sun is being supplied with energy from outside to be able to reach 6000˚ C on the Surface? Why is isn’t the Earth roasted by the same electric fields and currents?Electric fields n electric currents.
How else.
I asked where the energy comes from. Are you claiming that the Sun is being supplied with energy from outside to be able to reach 6000˚ C on the Surface? Why is isn’t the Earth roasted by the same electric fields and currents?
So where's the power source? Why is it invisible? Why hasn't it already discharged?
None of this makes any sense. None of it is even remotely possible. And none of it is new, we've debunked it over and over again already.
Scientists taking a "deep dive" into one of Webb's iconic first images have discovered dozens of energetic jets and outflows from young stars previously hidden by dust clouds. The discovery marks the beginning of a new era of investigating how stars like our Sun form, and how the radiation from nearby massive stars might affect the development of planets.
As young stars gather material from the gas and dust that surround them, most also eject a fraction of that material back out again from their polar regions in jets and outflows. These jets then act like a snowplow, bulldozing into the surrounding environment

I asked where the energy comes from. Are you claiming that the Sun is being supplied with energy from outside to be able to reach 6000˚ C on the Surface? Why is isn’t the Earth roasted by the same electric fields and currents?
"Jets like these are signposts for the most exciting part of the star formation process. We only see them during a brief window of time when the protostar is actively accreting," explained co-author Nathan Smith of the University of Arizona in Tucson.
We also identify several Herbig–Haro (HH) objects in Paα images from JWST; most are confirmed as jets based on their proper motions measured in a comparison with previous Hubble Space Telescope (HST) Hα images. This confirmed all previous HST-identified HH jets and candidate jets, and revealed seven new HH objects.
The mechanism for producing these collimated bipolar jets is not entirely understood, but it is believed that interaction between the accretion disk and the stellar magnetic field accelerates some of the accreting material from within a few astronomical units of the star away from the disk plane
All you have is gravity (and MHD)! Good luck.
You seem to have forgotten the strong nuclear force.
I don’t see your explanation for where the energy comes from. Could you explain how the Herbig-Haro jets at the start produce energy enough to keep the stars going for millions of years?Deep diving off the ‘Cosmic Cliffs’: previously hidden outflows in NGC*3324 revealed by JWST
Herbig–Haro (HH)???
not entirely understood?? Best you do, it's important!
Stronger than gravity, within range. Should we do the weak nuclear force as well for completeness?
Do you think the strong and weak nuclear forces are in play and have some significance compared to the electric fields, within cosmic plasmas?
Or even the accretion disk (gravity) and magnetic fields (electric currents(charged particles on the move)?
Mainstream is still a little unsure on how plasma, using MHD, behaves.
Not sure if you can see the problem here? tusenfem likes to keep his ions going round in round, outside his electrons.
Seems he was wrong as well. Seems they form “tubes” of both. Like an electric current.
You mob need to work on your electrons doing stuff, not just a neutralising fluid.
Leads to believe in things like the Big Bang, internal fusion in the stars, tangled magnetic field lines, snapping and breaking accelerating particles, black holes, infinite density, planets doing handbrake turns, unicorns and Father Christmas.
All because your math does NOT allow charge seperation, yet we observe it everywhere.
Pretty sure nowadays “something magentic fields” just don’t cut it.
We know plasma now. We know electric fields play a role in a variety of astrophysical phenomena. We know electric current would prefer to be force free. We know they extend over cosmic distances.
We now think they (electric currents) play a role in star formation, galaxy formation and I’d throw a couple bob each way on the Universe
As in like the ELECTRIC UNIVERSE.
Electric fields n electric currents.
How else.
Do you think the strong and weak nuclear forces are in play and have some significance compared to the electric fields, within cosmic plasmas?
All because your math does NOT allow charge seperation, yet we observe it everywhere.
We know plasma now.
Stop playing stupid on purpose.