9/11: The Smoking Gun

[Myriad]

In this post we see a cameo of the missile going into the glowing orange hole of the WTC2 South
wall and a image of the same missile nose exiting the North-East corner bevel of the tower. Note
the shape of the shadow the flying object cast on the sunlit north wall as the missle nose exits.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7443177#post7443177
The glowing orange hole was created by the shape charge in the missile nose that pyrolyzes a molten
hole in the steal creating an entrance hole for the missile

In that picture we can clearly see that the "missile nose" is blunt and at least 4 meters in diameter, which is considerably wider than the Space Shuttle's solid rocket boosters, the rockets that launched the Mercury and Gemini astronauts into orbit, the European Ariane 5 booster, or any known ICBM. It's about right for the third stage of a Saturn V though. Is that what it was, do you think? Was it surplus hardware from the 1970s? What launch pad was it launched from?

 

[Axxman300]

In this post we see a cameo of the missile going into the glowing orange hole of the WTC2 South
wall and a image of the same missile nose exiting the North-East corner bevel of the tower. Note
the shape of the shadow the flying object cast on the sunlit north wall as the missle nose exits.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7443177#post7443177
The glowing orange hole was created by the shape charge in the missile nose that pyrolyzes a molten
hole in the steal creating an entrance hole for the missile

No.

 

[smartcooky]

In this post we see a cameo of the missile going into the glowing orange hole of the WTC2 South

Your "glowing orange hole" is a glare-reflection of the morning sun off the nose radome of the airliner.

Note the shape of the shadow the flying object cast on the sunlit north wall as the missle nose exits.

Note the shape of the shadow on the left side of your entry photo... its the shadow of the wings of an airliner.

The glowing orange hole was created by the shape charge in the missile nose that pyrolyzes a molten hole in the steal creating an entrance hole for the missile

There is no explosive on earth that can be made small enough for a shape charge to fit in the warhead of a missile, and still create sufficient heat to "pyrolize" tonnes of steel in a fraction of a millisecond. If you have discovered a way to do this, you should contact the US military - they would pay you handsomely for it.

In your photo, you see the vertical facades? They are 3½ ft apart - for your further education as to why you are wrong, I have superimposed a correctly scaled image of an AGM-158 cruise missile, (14 ft long).

You . are. wrong!

 

[Gamolon]

In this post we see a cameo of the missile going into the glowing orange hole of the WTC2 South
wall and a image of the same missile nose exiting the North-East corner bevel of the tower. Note
the shape of the shadow the flying object cast on the sunlit north wall as the missle nose exits.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7443177#post7443177
The glowing orange hole was created by the shape charge in the missile nose that pyrolyzes a molten
hole in the steal creating an entrance hole for the missile

Trying to understand your theory.

When was the AUP fired from the missile concealed in the underbelly of the 767 "skin"? Was the AUP fired while the missile was still inside the 767 "skin" or was the missile fired from the 767 "skin" and THEN the AUP was fired from the missile?

Was the sequence of impacts you envision as follows or something different?

1. Missile fired from 767 "skin"
2. AUP fired from missile
3. AUP hits building façade and creates "molten hole"
4. Missile goes through "molten hole" created in the façade
5. 767 "skin" goes through molten hole

 

[Steve]

Now people. It may well be that fonebone “sees” exactly what fonebone describes. fonebone’s major error here is using the word we instead of I. What we see is the reality of an airplane flying into the tower. What fonebone’s brain translates from its visual cortex unfortunately seems to have no connection to reality whatsoever.

 

[bknight]

I have several questions for you, again, what happened to the four airplanes that were hijacked? What happened to all the people on those aircrafts? How did they manage to plant evidence from the hijackers into the rubble pile? How did they get airplane parts all over the place? You have never answered just the same as rubygrey.

ETA: Another question you forgoot to link the images hat you posted in the linked threads, please post links.

 

[MBDK]

ETA: Another question you forgoot to link the images hat you posted in the linked threads, please post links.

That would help, but since the poster also cannot seem to remember what missiles/767s look like, how they operate (from launch to clean-up), nor any pertinent science at all, his/her/its penchant for cognitive lapses are worthy of advanced Alzheimer's study.

 

[Fonebone]

In this post we see a cameo of the missile going into the glowing orange hole of the WTC2 South
wall and a image of the same missile nose exiting the North-East corner bevel of the tower. Note
the shape of the shadow the flying object cast on the sunlit north wall as the missle nose exits.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7443177#post7443177
The glowing orange hole was created by the shape charge in the missile nose that pyrolyzes a molten
hole in the steal creating an entrance hole for the missile

Milliseconds before each of the three building were struck by the flying objects,
witnesses reported a bright white flash followed instantly by a circular glowing orange
shape hole in the vertical wall that allowed the nose of the flying object to effortlessly enter the building
interior before exploding into white- tan dust cloud that morphed into the huge yellow, orange and red fireball that
dissipated seconds later.
Many of the videos of the WTC2 "plane" captured both the bright flash and the resulting orange hole
at the point the flying object penetrated.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6225624#post6225624
The Exocet missiles used in the Falkland war was equipped with the shape-charge nose to blast an entry hole in
fortified walls.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6609197#post6609197

OK, so you have shown a picture of a commercial airliner colliding with the building, you have shown a picture of debris and smoke coming out the other side.

But you appear to have forgotten to include the picture of this alleged missile.

Image of the alleged missile:



Another image of the same missile
AGM-86D


One of the many munition payloads of this delivery systems is a FAE thermobaric Napalm and Napalm2 incendiary warhead.
F.A.E. = Fuel Air Explosive.
Napalm is a FAE is a Naphthalene & palm oil that creates a Fireball with a petroleum thick black mushroom smoke cloud. Naphalm2 is a
chemical exothermic payload replacement for Napalm and produces a whitish tan-gray smoke mushroom cloud

 

[smartcooky]

Image of the alleged missile:
[qimg]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j394/xfonebonex1/Cruise_missile_AFGM86Dh.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds[/qimg]


Another image of the same missile
AGM-86D
[qimg]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j394/xfonebonex1/cruise_missile_AGM-86B.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds[/qimg]

One of the many munition payloads of this delivery systems is a FAE thermobaric Napalm and Napalm2 incendiary warhead.
F.A.E. = Fuel Air Explosive.
Napalm is a FAE is a Naphthalene & palm oil that creates a Fireball with a petroleum thick black mushroom smoke cloud. Naphalm2 is a
chemical exothermic payload replacement for Napalm and produces a whitish tan-gray smoke mushroom cloud

 

[Myriad]

Image of the alleged missile:

Another image of the same missile

One of the many munition payloads of this delivery systems is a FAE thermobaric Napalm and Napalm2 incendiary warhead.
F.A.E. = Fuel Air Explosive.
Napalm is a FAE is a Naphthalene & palm oil that creates a Fireball with a petroleum thick black mushroom smoke cloud. Naphalm2 is a
chemical exothermic payload replacement for Napalm and produces a whitish tan-gray smoke mushroom cloud

That missile doesn't look like it has a "nose" 4-5 meters thick.

Also, if the missile's thermobaric warhead detonated inside the tower, how could its still-intact "nose" have exited the other side?

 

[Fonebone]

In this post we see a cameo of the missile going into the glowing orange hole of the WTC2 South
wall and a image of the same missile nose exiting the North-East corner bevel of the tower. Note
the shape of the shadow the flying object cast on the sunlit north wall as the missle nose exits.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7443177#post7443177
The glowing orange hole was created by the shape charge in the missile nose that pyrolyzes a molten
hole in the steal creating an entrance hole for the missile

Milliseconds before each of the three building were struck by the flying objects,
witnesses reported a bright white flash followed instantly by a circular glowing orange
shape hole in the vertical wall that allowed the nose of the flying object to effortlessly enter the building
interior before exploding into white- tan dust cloud that morphed into the huge yellow, orange and red fireball that
dissipated seconds later.
Many of the videos of the WTC2 "plane" captured both the bright flash and the resulting orange hole
at the point the flying object penetrated.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6225624#post6225624
The Exocet missiles used in the Falkland war was equipped with the shape-charge nose to blast an entry hole in
fortified walls.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6609197#post6609197

No.

No witnesses have ever reported this. Ever. This is a lie.


Fonebone>

The glowing orange hole was created by the shape charge in the missile nose that pyrolyzes a molten
hole in the steal creating an entrance hole for the missile

Axxman300>

No.

Not one of the videos of the 767s crashing into the towers show this, no matter which angle.

This is another lie.

Fonebone>





Gosh, okay, Dr. Von Braun, how about you explain how an anti-ship missile works, and why one would use such a weapon on 9-11 when simply crashing a 767 into the building would achieve more profound results?

You have yet to address how these missiles were launched. These weapons are loud, and produce a lot of smoke at the ignition point. Why has not one single person reported a missile launch, let alone four? Why did nobody see a missile anywhere between NYC and Shanksville? Or between NYC and DC? If the missiles were sea-launched, where is the radar data? What kind of ship? Can't be US Navy, we'd have known by 5PM on 9/11/2001. So where did they come from?

Where are the missile fragments recovered from all of the crash sites? We've got the planes, why not the missiles?

These should be easy questions to answer for someone who has basic knowledge of this type of weapons system.

xxx

 

[Steve]

xxx

Love you too, sweetums.

 

[Fonebone]

That missile doesn't look like it has a "nose" 4-5 meters thick.

Also, if the missile's thermobaric warhead detonated inside the tower, how could its still-intact "nose" have exited the other side?

The missile was cloaked inside of a miniature Boeing 767 disguise. The missile payload was dispersed as a pressurized cloud of
whitish tan-gray dust that was ignited into the fireball after the time-delay set on the missile's barometric fuse. The carcass
of the missile was whole as it exited the WTC2 North-East bevel until it was overcome by the fireball. The size of the missile circumference
is hidden by the disguise of the quarter to half sized scale B767 costume concealing it. The height of every floor was exactly 12 feet.
The disguised missile entered the neat round molten entry hole between the floors and between the horizontal spandrel plates.
The spandrel plate steel belt is 4 feet high leaving a open 8 foot floor space for the missile, sans the B767 cloaking, to enter the tower interior
and exit whole until incinerated by the thermobaric fireball.

 

[Fonebone]

Love you too, sweetums.

Sorry - I'm a guy... and I'm happily married.

The xxx was placed at the post bottom to override my poor formatting errors in order to allow the message to post properly.

xin loi

 

[Axxman300]

One of the many munition payloads of this delivery systems is a FAE thermobaric Napalm and Napalm2 incendiary warhead.
F.A.E. = Fuel Air Explosive.
Napalm is a FAE is a Naphthalene & palm oil that creates a Fireball with a petroleum thick black mushroom smoke cloud. Naphalm2 is a
chemical exothermic payload replacement for Napalm and produces a whitish tan-gray smoke mushroom cloud

No.

Napalm is not an explosive. Napalm is an incendiary. Napalm doesn't do the things you claim your fantasy missile does.

FAEs are not shape-charge warheads. FAEs are "area explosives", great sucking the air out of caves and underground bunkers. Had an FAE been used on 911, they would have heard it half way down New Jersey. Windows would have been blown out all the way down to Greenwich Village.

That didn't happen. You've failed.

 

[smartcooky]

No.

Napalm is not an explosive. Napalm is an incendiary. Napalm doesn't do the things you claim your fantasy missile does.

FAEs are not shape-charge warheads. FAEs are "area explosives", great sucking the air out of caves and underground bunkers. Had an FAE been used on 911, they would have heard and felt it half way down New Jersey. Windows would have been blown out all the way down to Greenwich Village.

That didn't happen. You've failed.

FTFY

 

[Axxman300]

The missile was cloaked inside of a miniature Boeing 767 disguise.

This is comedy gold.

The missile payload was dispersed as a pressurized cloud of
whitish tan-gray dust that was ignited into the fireball after the time-delay set on the missile's barometric fuse.

But you just said it was Napalm, which is liquid. Derp.

*the dust was pulverized concrete floor and drywall.

The carcass of the missile was whole as it exited the WTC2 North-East bevel until it was overcome by the fireball.

How does a cruise missile fly out the other side of a building if it has exploded inside of said building?

[spoiler alert: it can't]

The size of the missile circumference is hidden by the disguise of the quarter to half sized scale B767 costume concealing it.

But a fully loaded 767 has more destructive power than a cruise missile. You know who understood this 6th grade science lesson? Al Qaeda.

The height of every floor was exactly 12 feet. The disguised missile entered the neat round molten entry hole between the floors and between the horizontal spandrel plates.

Hate to bother you again, but after 20 years of nonstop war, why have we never used this weapon again? Why wasn't it used in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, or Somalia? Why has this weapon's technology never been discussed in the science journals, or defense industry trade publications?

The spandrel plate steel belt is 4 feet high leaving a open 8 foot floor space for the missile, sans the B767 cloaking, to enter the tower interior
and exit whole until incinerated by the thermobaric fireball.

No. Unfortunately you're asking too much in the way of precision. Even if they launched from Central Park there's no guarantee it will hit that tight of a target.

There is a long list of reasons as to why none of this is true. The most important ones would be getting engineers to sign off on a capital offense that would involved the secrecy of at least 2,000 people. This is the giant flaw in your whimsical fantasy. You can't hide a missile in a jet, you make a jet into a missile. That's just reality. A cruise missile costs around $2 million. To develop a one-off cruise missile - in secret - drives the cost toward $100 million. As my Congressman likes to say, $100 million is almost real money. You can't hide it for 21 years. And the missiles have to be tested.

Meanwhile, for the cost of flying lessons, and 19 first class airline tickets, you can hijack four 767s, and fly them into your chosen targets with the same destructive outcome. And this can be done with less than 40 people knowing about it. And, if you'd bother to read the real history of the attacks on 9-11, you'd know that some of those 40 Al Qaeda guys didn't keep their mouths shut before the attack.

You have to explain why a 767 couldn't do the things they did on 911.

 

[bknight]

Sorry - I'm a guy... and I'm happily married.

The xxx was placed at the post bottom to override my poor formatting errors in order to allow the message to post properly.

xin loi

You still haven't linked the source of the two images presented earlier, please do so we can all view the source. Nor have you answered my question of what happened to the airplanes and the crew/passengers?

 

[Robin]

Image of the alleged missile:]

...

Another image of the same missile

To sum up. You have shown a picture of a commercial airliner colliding with WTC 2.

And you have shown a picture of a missile nowhere near WTC 2.

Conclusion: It was a commercial airliner colliding with WTC 2. Thanks for your confirmation.

Note also that the commercial airliner is not half size, nor is it three quarter size. It is full size.

And shape charges to not melt their way through metal.

 

[MBDK]

The missile was cloaked inside of a miniature Boeing 767 disguise. The missile payload was dispersed as a pressurized cloud of
whitish tan-gray dust that was ignited into the fireball after the time-delay set on the missile's barometric fuse. The carcass
of the missile was whole as it exited the WTC2 North-East bevel until it was overcome by the fireball. The size of the missile circumference
is hidden by the disguise of the quarter to half sized scale B767 costume concealing it.

Looks to be normal size here. And if you look at the second, sped-up video, you can see how the impact made the entire building sway. That could ONLY be caused by the momentum of a fully-laden full-size 767.

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