9/11: The Smoking Gun

I'm not sure that Fonebone has ever articulated exactly what his beliefs are with the exception of a "no-planer" handle on hm, but other than that no specifics that I can recall. Perhaps someone has run onto him in another thread or platform and have a better description of his beliefs.


Better yet ... Ask Fonebone
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=5431133#post5431133
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I think the only thing smoking here is crack. There really aren't many things lower in the food chain than no-planers.

Here, have some aircraft flying at the speed of sound

https://www.military.com/video/mili...c-flight/10-awesome-sonic-booms/4202062176001

See them? Yes, if course you did.

Even if this ludicrous bit of trolling had any credibility it only makes any sense if the flying object is going past you and close. Which, as the video in the page linked to above shows, still doesn't work. If you're watching an aircraft travelling away from you, or are at some distance, you have plenty of time to identify it as an aircraft.

Besides, if you don't have eànough reaction time to identify the big flying object with wings as a plane, then you don't have time to identify it as anything else either. You therefore need to rely on other corroborating evidence, like missing planes, flight manifests, flight control data and recordings, plane shaped holes, big chunks of planes lying around, and a well known terrorist organisation saying "hey guys, we flew a bunch of planes into your buildings".
 

I did go back to the linked pages and as smartcooky has pointed out you were/are still incorrect. You haven't any proof of the existence of missile or missiles shrouded in "pig" disguise, just your intractable notion that real planes were not involved.
 
that is a lot of woo


Flight 11 and 175 hit the WTC towers, and you can't figure it out after all these years. Video, Radar, and reality are beyond your grasp.

Your fantasy version of 9/11, an eternal illusion/delusion. A legacy of woo.
 
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Bringing together what they have said in their links, this is what fonebone seems to be suggesting:


Around 1994/1995 some powerful organisation has assembled a large team of highly skilled engineers to design modifications to missiles which would allow them, in some combination to produce damage to a skyscraper which is entirely consistent with the damage that would have been produced by the collision of a large airliner and entirely inconsistent with any kind of damage that would have been produced by any kind of missile attack.

This must be done in a way that will look, to eyewitnesses and video footage just as though the buildings had been hit by a large commercial had hit the building.

In some manufacturing facility a team of highly skilled workers make these modifications and the missiles are transported to various locations where they can be deployed.

Presumably the building are set up with giant devices which will hurl aircraft parts onto the streets.

On 9/11 four aircraft are diverted to some unspecified location and the passengers murdered and their DNA harvested.

Then the missile operation occurs and everyone is fooled.

A team go about planting DNA in the wreckage and on the roofs of surrounding buildings.

Not one of this army of highly skilled psychopathic traitors has ever breathes a word about this in the 20 years since.
 
Mind you, Barbara Honneger thought that all you had to do was to paint "American Airlines" on the side of an ordinary small drone and people would be concerned that it was a large commercial airliner.
 
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Around 1994/1995 some powerful organisation has assembled a large team of highly skilled engineers to design modifications to missiles which would allow them, in some combination to produce damage to a skyscraper which is entirely consistent with the damage that would have been produced by the collision of a large airliner and entirely inconsistent with any kind of damage that would have been produced by any kind of missile attack.

Which would be an extremely complex task involving hundreds of people all of whom "they" would need to be 100% sure that none of them...

...ever breathes a word about this in the 20 years since

.. otherwise, the they would have to be terminated with extreme prejudice.

This must be done in a way that will look, to eyewitnesses and video footage just as though the buildings had been hit by a large commercial had hit the building.

In some manufacturing facility a team of highly skilled workers make these modifications and the missiles are transported to various locations where they can be deployed.

Presumably the building are set up with giant devices which will hurl aircraft parts onto the streets.

Another team of highly skilled experts that would have to surreptitiously carry out all this work, in the buildings in the months beforehand without ever being detected..... another team of highly skilled experts that would have to be kept quiet or assassinated.

On 9/11 four aircraft are diverted to some unspecified location and the passengers murdered and their DNA harvested.

All while disappearing those airliners from radar, and seamlessly replacing them with missiles that were previously undetected on radar, and landing those aircraft without anyone seeing them.

Then the missile operation occurs and everyone is fooled.

Except no-planer morons of course :rolleyes:

A team go about planting DNA in the wreckage and on the roofs of surrounding buildings.

Which would of course have to be done later, involving yet another highly secret team of specialized experts that would need to be kept silent or terminated.

Of course, no-planer morons all miss the obvious flaw - it would be much easier to do all this with real airliners.

A small team of experts infiltrate the maintenance facilities of the airlines involved beginning 1994/95, with a view to installing remote control hardware on four airliners, and then on 9/11, taking complete control of them and flying them into buildings.

Solves the following problems...

Radar
DNA
Aircraft parts in the streets
Eye-witnesses
News cameras
The fuel-air fireball
diverting the aircraft without detection

as well as drastically reducing the risk of the secret being reveled by using a much, much smaller team.

Not one of this army of highly skilled psychopathic traitors has ever breathes a word about this in the 20 years since...

... in a country that is so good at keeping secrets that the president was porking a White House usher and they were the only two who knew about it!
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Quite a challenge too for the HR manager of this top secret powerful sinister organisation just assembling this team of hundreds of highly skilled, completely trustworthy psychopathic traitors.
 
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Now if he would really wake up to the realities of 9/11, not fantasies.

Seeing all the 9/11Truth Movement was fantasy from the first seconds they started on Democratic Underground, I don't expect any waking up now. I don't expect any True Believers too leave the Religion at this time.
 
Milliseconds before each of the three building were struck by the flying objects,
witnesses reported a bright white flash followed instantly by a circular glowing orange
shape hole in the vertical wall that allowed the nose of the flying object to effortlessly enter the building
interior before exploding into white- tan dust cloud that morphed into the huge yellow, orange and red fireball that
dissipated seconds later.
Many of the videos of the WTC2 "plane" captured both the bright flash and the resulting orange hole
at the point the flying object penetrated.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6225624#post6225624
The Exocet missiles used in the Falkland war was equipped with the shape-charge nose to blast an entry hole in
fortified walls.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6609197#post6609197
 
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The flying object was a commercial airliner and the nose did not "effortlessly enter" anything, it was shredded, as you would expect.
 
Milliseconds before each of the three building were struck by the flying objects,
witnesses reported a bright white flash followed instantly by a circular glowing orange
shape hole in the vertical wall that allowed the nose of the flying object to effortlessly enter the building
interior before exploding into white- tan dust cloud that morphed into the huge yellow, orange and red fireball that
dissipated seconds later.
Many of the videos of the WTC2 "plane" captured both the bright flash and the resulting orange hole
at the point the flying object penetrated.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6225624#post6225624
The Exocet missiles used in the Falkland war was equipped with the shape-charge nose to blast an entry hole in
fortified walls.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6609197#post6609197

Name these "witnesses" and link to their published statements.
 
Milliseconds before each of the three building were struck by the flying objects,
witnesses reported a bright white flash followed instantly by a circular glowing orange
shape hole in the vertical wall that allowed the nose of the flying object to effortlessly enter the building
interior before exploding into white- tan dust cloud that morphed into the huge yellow, orange and red fireball that
dissipated seconds later.
Many of the videos of the WTC2 "plane" captured both the bright flash and the resulting orange hole
at the point the flying object penetrated.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6225624#post6225624
The Exocet missiles used in the Falkland war was equipped with the shape-charge nose to blast an entry hole in
fortified walls.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6609197#post6609197
I can only assume you are playing up to the 'troll" label here by making the taking your theory to new and undreamed of
levels of implausibility.
 
Milliseconds before each of the three building were struck by the flying objects,
witnesses reported a bright white flash followed instantly by a circular glowing orange
shape hole in the vertical wall that allowed the nose of the flying object to effortlessly enter the building
interior before exploding into white- tan dust cloud that morphed into the huge yellow, orange and red fireball that
dissipated seconds later.
Many of the videos of the WTC2 "plane" captured both the bright flash and the resulting orange hole
at the point the flying object penetrated.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6225624#post6225624
The Exocet missiles used in the Falkland war was equipped with the shape-charge nose to blast an entry hole in
fortified walls.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6609197#post6609197

What has inspired your departure from reality.

Two url flashbacks to insane claims. Claims based on unbounded ignorance related to physics and what evidence is.

Why do you post BS, lies and insane claims? oh, I know this one, because you can.

What was your major in college?

"Truth, like the sun, allows itself to be obscured", but unlike the sun, for you, forever, and ever... amen

"Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains taken to bring it to light" - you missed the truth, as you remain in the dark willfully spreading lies about the murder of thousands - ubl must of been laughing at the lies 9/11 truth and you spread

"All great truths begin as blasphemies", ironic quote in light of your insane claims

your can recycle your evidence for you claims with big foot, flat earth and other failed conspiracy theories...

I look forward to your next "typing practice" clickbait post reply, keeps the fingers agile...
 
Milliseconds before each of the three building were struck by the flying objects,
witnesses reported a bright white flash followed instantly by a circular glowing orange
shape hole in the vertical wall that allowed the nose of the flying object to effortlessly enter the building
interior before exploding into white- tan dust cloud that morphed into the huge yellow, orange and red fireball that
dissipated seconds later.

No.

No witnesses have ever reported this. Ever. This is a lie.

Many of the videos of the WTC2 "plane" captured both the bright flash and the resulting orange hole
at the point the flying object penetrated.

No.

Not one of the videos of the 767s crashing into the towers show this, no matter which angle.

This is another lie.

The Exocet missiles used in the Falkland war was equipped with the shape-charge nose to blast an entry hole in
fortified walls.

Gosh, okay, Dr. Von Braun, how about you explain how an anti-ship missile works, and why one would use such a weapon on 9-11 when simply crashing a 767 into the building would achieve more profound results?

You have yet to address how these missiles were launched. These weapons are loud, and produce a lot of smoke at the ignition point. Why has not one single person reported a missile launch, let alone four? Why did nobody see a missile anywhere between NYC and Shanksville? Or between NYC and DC? If the missiles were sea-launched, where is the radar data? What kind of ship? Can't be US Navy, we'd have known by 5PM on 9/11/2001. So where did they come from?

Where are the missile fragments recovered from all of the crash sites? We've got the planes, why not the missiles?

These should be easy questions to answer for someone who has basic knowledge of this type of weapons system.
 
Milliseconds before each of the three building were struck by the flying objects,
witnesses reported a bright white flash followed instantly by a circular glowing orange
shape hole in the vertical wall that allowed the nose of the flying object to effortlessly enter the building
interior before exploding into white- tan dust cloud that morphed into the huge yellow, orange and red fireball that
dissipated seconds later.
Many of the videos of the WTC2 "plane" captured both the bright flash and the resulting orange hole
at the point the flying object penetrated.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6225624#post6225624
The Exocet missiles used in the Falkland war was equipped with the shape-charge nose to blast an entry hole in
fortified walls.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6609197#post6609197


In this post we see a cameo of the missile going into the glowing orange hole of the WTC2 South
wall and a image of the same missile nose exiting the North-East corner bevel of the tower. Note
the shape of the shadow the flying object cast on the sunlit north wall as the missle nose exits.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7443177#post7443177
The glowing orange hole was created by the shape charge in the missile nose that pyrolyzes a molten
hole in the steal creating an entrance hole for the missile
 
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In this post we see a cameo of the missile going into the glowing orange hole of the WTC2 South
wall and a image of the same missile nose exiting the North-East corner bevel of the tower. Note
the shape of the shadow the flying object cast on the sunlit north wall as the missle nose exits.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=7443177#post7443177
The glowing orange hole was created by the shape charge in the missile nose that pyrolyzes a molten
hole in the steal creating an entrance hole for the missile
OK, so you have shown a picture of a commercial airliner colliding with the building, you have shown a picture of debris and smoke coming out the other side.

But you appear to have forgotten to include the picture of this alleged missile.
 
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Incidentally, some information about shape charges:

Contrary to a misconception (possibly resulting from the acronym for high-explosive anti-tank, HEAT) the shaped charge EFP jet does not depend in any way on heating or melting for its effectiveness; that is, the EFP jet from a shaped charge does not melt its way through armor, as its effect is purely kinetic in nature

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaped_charge

And, when you think about it, could you really heat a large amount of construction steel to melting point in less than one thousandth of a second?
 

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