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DeSantis Martha's Vineyard Stunt

Ain't that the truth.

But that's all it's done. Outside the rightie tighties' squirrel cage, it's done a lot to open decent people's eyes to the cynicism and stupid cruelty of the On Beyond Trumpism crowd.

Squirrel cage. I thought about saying sty, slum, mob stronghold, Reich, etc. Suggestions are welcome.
 
But that's all it's done. Outside the rightie tighties' squirrel cage, it's done a lot to open decent people's eyes to the cynicism and stupid cruelty of the On Beyond Trumpism crowd.

Squirrel cage. I thought about saying sty, slum, mob stronghold, Reich, etc. Suggestions are welcome.

Den of Delusion?
 
This sentiment came and went pretty quick in this thread because it just couldn't stand up to the facts of what actually happened. However, I keep seeing it pop up on the other social media sources out there. Is there some justification for this that I'm just not seeing or is it just completely made up propaganda?

The latter. Overall, Liberals recognize the huge contribution that migrants make to the US Economy.

Immigrant workers are prepared to do the jobs that American won't do. They play a critical function in supplying essential labor in the service and agricultural sectors, as well as other parts of the economy. No immigrants = no harvest = no food.

Immigrants are not only workers, they are also consumers. According to an analysis of 2019 American Community Survey (ACS) data by the New American Economy, immigrants (14% of the US population) wield US$1.3 trillion in spending power. In some of the largest state economies the contributions of immigrants are substantial.

CA - immigrants are 27% of the population with a spending power of US$318 billion.

NY - immigrants are 22% of the population with a spending power of US$130 billion.

TX - immigrants are 17% of the population with a spending power of US$120 billion.

FL - immigrants are 21% of the population with a spending power of US$105 billion.

Immigrants are more likely to be of prime working age (between 25 and 54 years old), balancing out the relatively older native-born population. If you are retired in the US, your lifestyle is ultimately dependent to a large degree on the work of immigrants

Immigrants are less likely to be children: only 6% are under 18 years old, compared with 25% of the native-born.

Immigrants with STEM degrees have made up an increasing share of the
innovators responsible for new US patents. Foreign-born innovators are responsible for more than 75% of patents from the top ten patent-producing US universities.

Immigrants are more likely than the native-born to start businesses or pursue other forms of self-employment, encouraging future economic dynamism, innovation and long-term economic growth.

Immigrants help fuel economic activity through their attachment to the labor market, their spending power and their entrepreneurial spirit behind much
of our innovations.


Since the US was founded immigrants have played a vital role in creating a diverse, dynamic and growing US economy.

It must surely be terrifying to be a racist, bigoted, white-privileged conservative rube right now in the US, to know that those "hordes from the south" are smarter, harder working and more enterprising than they are.
 
Oh, ok. So it is only "effectively" a sanctuary state, but not an official one.

Glad we cleared that up. :rolleyes:
Which makes no difference at all to why they should fly immigrants to Martha's Vineyard, instead of to one of the many sizeable cities in which it might be possible for a group of disoriented immigrants actually to find some useful services.
 
We've been hearing for at least a generation about an immigration crisis. I'm patiently waiting for even the first shoe to drop, let alone the other one.
 
Which makes no difference at all to why they should fly immigrants to Martha's Vineyard, instead of to one of the many sizeable cities in which it might be possible for a group of disoriented immigrants actually to find some useful services.


It is a symbolic gesture, bruto. :)
 
Seems like good optics so far. The progressive one percenters on the island aren't really doing their faction any favors in all this.

It's almost like any American who actually wants more illegal immigrants only really wants them somewhere else.

I did not expect to find you cheerleading for this, given that you're usually pretty rational on other threads.

I try to put myself into other viewpoints, but I'm hard pressed to understand how this was anything but a cynical "gotcha" move containing zero by way of compassion towards those moved, or if compassion's not your thing, any kind of practicality of the best way to address their particular issues. This seems to be divorced from any rationality, with emotional appeal being the only plus.
 
It is a symbolic gesture, bruto. :)

You said people have the right to immigrate and apply for asylum. But when that lawful application processes is denied by kidnapping them off to another state you call it "a symbolic gesture".

You sell our liberties cheap!
 
It is a symbolic gesture, bruto. :)

It's a political stunt for his own personal political gain. Much like Trump's walk through Lafayette Square for a photo op with a Bible he's never opened in front of the parish house of church he's never attended.

"TWO Corinthians". Hell, I'm a atheist and I knew it was Second Corinthians.
 
It's a political stunt for his own personal political gain. Much like Trump's walk through Lafayette Square for a photo op with a Bible he's never opened, which he held upside-down, in front of the parish house of church he's never attended.

"TWO Corinthians". Hell, I'm a atheist and I knew it was Second Corinthians.

FTFY
 

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