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Alien Visitation Contact Proof

Jack by the hedge said:
You keep bringing up familiar UFO stories as if we never heard of them. Those navy tictac gimbal etc videos have been very well explained, including in a video which was posted in this thread a few days ago. You may decline to watch it but here's the thing: we've watched it.

So every time you lay another tired old busted UFO story out there as a gotcha it doesn't make you look like someone who's done their research. It makes you look like another gullible mug who hasn't seen through it yet.
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So 2 peoples word means the navy is wrong and the government is wrong and everyone is wrong because 2 people say so despite all the evidence Japanese airlines, rendlesham, Phoenix lights... all caused by brown outs and swamp gas lol

It gets funnier by the year
 
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Darat said:
A common theme is that the claimants will claim the aliens are using our current cutting edge technology for example: "...My theory .....it's an ion propulsion system people claim they hang around fresh water sources collecting hydrogen".
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No aliens are using technology from 1980 LOL
 
Pixel42 said:
People with far more relevant expertise than I possess have analysed these videos and found none that can only be explained by alien technology, as you would know if your "research" was not so severely limited by your bias.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_UFO_videos#Potential_explanations




Colour me unimpressed.
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That's my point proof isn't good enough for you never will, so why ask for proof you will never accept even when it comes from ths us government!
 
cjdelphi said:
So 2 peoples word means the navy is wrong and the government is wrong
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Show me where the US Navy or the US Government have stated that these videos are evidence of, let alone proof of, alien visitations. The most they've ever done is acknowledge that cannot always be completely ruled out as an explanation, which is a perfectly reasonable position to take.

As I already said, I do not have sufficient relevant expertise to analyse such videos. Clearly, neither do you. The 2 people you disparage, who cast doubt on the imaginative interpretations of these videos by you and those like you, do.

Unlike you I am capable of recognising my own limitations, and deferring to those whose specialised knowledge and understanding is far superior to mine.
 
cjdelphi said:
So 2 peoples word means the navy is wrong ...
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It's this scant attention to detail which truly makes me wonder about your work with logic devices.

The US navy does not say their videos show alien craft. Nor that they show feats beyond mundane explanation. Pointing out that the videos are mundane is not saying the navy is wrong. They made no claim that the videos show anything exotic.

The very fact that they call the gimbal video "gimbal" is a great big slap-in-the-face clue that they know perfectly well what causes the effects shown in the video. But it's not their job to tell the public what their own analysis is. So we get idiots breathlessly telling us about the capabilities of flying saucers that aren't in the video.
 
cjdelphi said:
That's my point proof isn't good enough for you never will, so why ask for proof you will never accept even when it comes from ths us government!
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No proof has yet come from the US government. No objective evidence has yet come from the US government. The only thing that has come from the US government is some videos which they have been unable to fully account for, and put out there for those with the necessary expertise to analyse if they wish. The fact that many people who do not have the necessary expertise to analyse them have insisted on doing so anyway and written all sorts of imaginative nonsense about them is not the fault of the US government.

If any objective evidence ever does come from the US government, or indeed anyone else, I will be delighted, and eager to both examine it myself and hear the experts' views on it. Until then, continue to colour me unimpressed.
 
cjdelphi said:
How do you explain quantum entanglement?
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I don't. It's not my thing. It's obviously not your thing either. I suspect there are people here who could help you out with it if you asked nicely but you appear impervious to education.

My point remains. If an alien civilization has figured out how to travel here by getting around the light speed barrier we're ****** in more ways than just an anal probe. An electrician of increasingly dubious qualification is not going to save us from being abducted.
 
cjdelphi said:
How do you explain quantum entanglement?
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I don't. But I'm just an electronic engineer and not a physicist.

If you're actually interested, there are a large number of threads on the topic in this forum. Try an Advanced Search for threads with "entanglement" in the title.
 
Darat said:
You've realised that claiming the aliens are using ion drives is funny.
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How dare you! The latest ion drives are what brought us here from a small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse (:thumbsup:DA). Took only 640 years at the speed of light (186,000 mph :D), too.
 
Pixel42 said:
Show me where the US Navy or the US Government have stated that these videos are evidence of, let alone proof of, alien visitations. The most they've ever done is acknowledge that cannot always be completely ruled out as an explanation, which is a perfectly reasonable position to take.

As I already said, I do not have sufficient relevant expertise to analyse such videos. Clearly, neither do you. The 2 people you disparage, who cast doubt on the imaginative interpretations of these videos by you and those like you, do.

Unlike you I am capable of recognising my own limitations, and deferring to those whose specialised knowledge and understanding is far superior to mine.
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You clearly are not use logic to answer your question

Are aliens out there? Yes
Is the navy chasing objects faster and more superior.. yes

Now I know they are because navy personnel have said so and they have little to gain except loss of career

So what is it the navy chases?

Hint Not weather balloon venus or swap gas.

So we know advanced technology is in our airspace, the more intelligent ones among you say government spy operations which is a damn sight closer than a brown out or a bat

Right so that leaves chinese tech and Russian tech, the Russians are using unencrypted channels over $20 chinese boafang wireless radios you can buy on ebay and Amazon

They are struggling to take Ukraine their tanks get stuck so whis next, china? Why haven't they taken Taiwan?

American... what dumb ass would allow leaked footage of highly classified highly secret craft that makes the navy and airforce look like 1930s fighter planes, any human onboard would die from what these craft do and allow the public to see it? No have a ufo Congress meeting in 50 years? Ask pilots to come forward

https://youtu.be/xx4x2L0TKGc

Nick pope when working for MoD pissed off the American government starting a diplomatic spat because a freedom of information request was granted and they said no, it's not theirs so nick asked again through an unofficial channel and the US went ballistic over it


So based on everything I've seen and read the US government does not have this technology they would be called off chasing UAPs if the government owned them ?

So if it's not chinese not russian not American that the navy chases that leaves only 2 possible answers, alien craft or future human craft, logic gives a clean answer to the problem here regardless of what lack of evidence you have to prove they can't be here....
 
Pixel42 said:
Show me where the US Navy or the US Government have stated that these videos are evidence of, let alone proof of, alien visitations. The most they've ever done is acknowledge that cannot always be completely ruled out as an explanation, which is a perfectly reasonable position to take.

As I already said, I do not have sufficient relevant expertise to analyse such videos. Clearly, neither do you. The 2 people you disparage, who cast doubt on the imaginative interpretations of these videos by you and those like you, do.

Unlike you I am capable of recognising my own limitations, and deferring to those whose specialised knowledge and understanding is far superior to mine.
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Steve said:
How dare you! The latest ion drives are what brought us here from a small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse (:thumbsup:DA). Took only 640 years at the speed of light (186,000 mph :D), too.
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My understanding of advanced technology ends at the limit if our own human understanding, an ion drive explains that blue light or flame the police officer saw with the blast of wind

How they travel through space might be as simple as traveling into a bubble or hole which uses Quantum entanglement ..

Are you saying in 2022 humans are never going to get more advanced? Technology innovation and discoveries over with are they? We have advanced as much as we can have we?

In the future robots will work 2x as hard as humans do and 24hours 7 days a week no complaints no pay rises, one day only 10% of the population will actually do any work, humans will be paid to have kids go on holiday

We will walk down a street with augmented glasses and you will see 3D animations of spam, have a coke and it spins a cola around in front of you, people pay for digital fashion, you see the trees animate and the sun smile

People will eventually wear bland white clothing and computer generation brings your hair to life, makes bald people not bald, you see a little screen with video calls, move your head for another screen, you break down in the car

The glasses show you what to check how much fluid is there, how to change it etc etc along with a video call window and you telling it to call a mechanic while waiting you look down onto a flat surface and you can bring up a board game and play chess virtually walk along the shops with 3d animations telling you to buy their products

The grass sways and dances even without any wind, your car runs on hydrogen cartridges a laser activates and releases hydrogen and you simply swap cartridges and travel 3k on it

This world will be like that in about 200 years and that's where the limit of my imagination takes me, I see where are now and I see where we are heading I take all the technology we know and put it to use, we are just far far far away still

I like the truth unlike a mystery and this light and sound I caught is just that, only alien visitation or future human visitation makes sense nothing more nothing less

Nothing else takes out the power makes the light and that sound, Nada, niet, nu
 
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