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Alien Visitation Contact Proof

"Nimitz*Carrier Group off the coast of California, and estimate lower bounds on the accelerations exhibited by the craft during the observed maneuvers. Estimated accelerations range from almost**to 1000s of gs with no observed air disturbance, no sonic booms, and no evidence of excessive heat commensurate with even the minimal estimated energies. In accordance with observ......"


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7514271/


The more you research the more you discover it can't be human behind it
 
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Guess what... I have a phone which replaces my words automatically until you add it ;)


And yet you failed to understand what I was getting at when I asked about deuterium and tritium.

If you are getting excited over spelling mistakes it means you ran out of ways to ridicule me so this is your only way it also means you can't prove me wrong either...


You still don’t get it. We don’t need to prove you wrong, you need to prove yourself right. As long as your argument boils down to “you can’t prove me wrong” you have failed.
 
Any light coming from a remote source, bulbs lamps, it would all light up the tree not just the path outside my bedroom window like it does...
 
"What that is" refers to the triangle we see, I know full well what lens flare is
My mistake. I apologise for misinterpreting. Regardless, the fact that the "object" is the exact same shape as the camera's aperture is pretty convincing.

The large Hadron collider has already been superseded by a larger collider, I wonder why...
What? No it hasn't.
 
And yet you failed to understand what I was getting at when I asked about deuterium and tritium.




You still don’t get it. We don’t need to prove you wrong, you need to prove yourself right. As long as your argument boils down to “you can’t prove me wrong” you have failed.

I explained it, you say I'm wrong, you can't offer an alternative that fits but you still expect me to believe I'm wrong

Not going to happen until you explain how and it better take the power out and make a search beam light and whatever explanation you have better make sound like you hear in the video, if you can't not even remotely, get off my screen
 
My mistake. I apologise for misinterpreting. Regardless, the fact that the "object" is the exact same shape as the camera's aperture is pretty convincing.

What? No it hasn't.

https://ec.europa.eu/research-and-i...ans-new-large-hadron-collider-three-times-big

It has, it just hasn't been built yet lol

Regarding the triangle I don't know as I said not seen any evidence nobody tracked it like the nimitz encounter it could be lens flare or it could be aliens going about their business I haven't done any research to rule out either but until I do that I have an open mind and yes I will keep your note that it's the same shape as the aperture it could very well be..

No idea
 
I explained it, you say I'm wrong, you can't offer an alternative that fits but you still expect me to believe I'm wrong

Not going to happen until you explain how and it better take the power out and make a search beam light and whatever explanation you have better make sound like you hear in the video, if you can't not even remotely, get off my screen


Nope. You’re starting with the presumption that it was an alien spaceship, and asking people to disprove that presumption. This makes your argument invalid. As does the very obvious non-sequitur at its centre.
 
My mistake. I apologise for misinterpreting. Regardless, the fact that the "object" is the exact same shape as the camera's aperture is pretty convincing.

What? No it hasn't.

Nope. You’re starting with the presumption that it was an alien spaceship, and asking people to disprove that presumption. This makes your argument invalid. As does the very obvious non-sequitur at its centre.

You sound like a broken record never adding anything new not investigating what has been presented or even attempting to explain it as a reasonable explanation behind it

There isn't one it's unexplainable and that sound you hear is not an electrical interference issue

Find me an article claiming you are correct they can't be here because.... I'd love to hear it, if you can't offer one, change the record
 
More unjustified fear

I think our own laws will be broken and I don't believe aliens are sticking to them, if they had of, we wouldn't see so many sighting and hear of so many reports daily

If every skeptic is fearful of this, it's because they think something has changed nothing has changed if they wanted us gone, we wouldn't be here

If your fear is abduction, why? It's been happening for a very long time, now you know it happens you are scared? That's the difference then, I'm not scared of an alien species that didn't wipe us out hundreds of years ago I'm not afraid now despite knowing the truth

Alien abduction is not suddenly scary because we finally find out ....nothing new ...same ol bs, I simply caught them out and unlike all the others who witness this flash of light, I caught it

Stop with the unjustified fear...

Ignorance has protected nobody

Dude, WTF are you talking about? Light Speed is not that kind of law. You don't just break it and get a ticket.
 
What? No it hasn't.



Of course, you are right, but what is funny is when an ignorant response to your comment only magnifies the extent to how out of touch the responder is.

The proposed successor to the LHC is still in the relatively early planning stages. The LHC itself took around 30 years to evolve from concept to completion. Claiming a conceptual idea has "superseded" a working instrument only shows how little that person understands regarding the application of science and engineering. Heck, even the EuroCirCol project only prepped a report (finished in 2019), with more planning to be done.

From January, 2021 -
https://cerncourier.com/a/horizon-event-for-fcc-innovators/

The meeting combined the fourth FCC physics week with the kick-off event for the EU-funded Horizon 2020 FCC Innovation Study (FCCIS). A successor to the previous EuroCirCol project, which was completed in 2019 and supported the preparation of the FCC conceptual design report (CDR), it will support the preparation of a feasibility study of a 100 km-circumference collider that could host an intensity- frontier electron–positron Higgs and electroweak factory (FCC-ee), followed by a 100 TeV energy-frontier hadron collider (FCC-hh) – an integrated scheme that EuroCirCol showed to be doable “in principle”. Key advantages of the FCC design are the multiple interaction points, high beam luminosities and long-term science mission covering both precision and energy frontiers over several decades (see FCC-ee: beyond a Higgs factory). The design must now be validated. “The feasibility study of FCC is particularly challenging and will require the hard work, dedication and enthusiasm of the full FCC community,” noted CERN Director-General Fabiola Gianotti.
 
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You keep bringing up familiar UFO stories as if we never heard of them. Those navy tictac gimbal etc videos have been very well explained, including in a video which was posted in this thread a few days ago. You may decline to watch it but here's the thing: we've watched it.

So every time you lay another tired old busted UFO story out there as a gotcha it doesn't make you look like someone who's done their research. It makes you look like another gullible mug who hasn't seen through it yet.
 
Because all the craft you see in the navy videos make our technology look like a McDonalds kids toy, 9k feet in less than a second, no..

People with far more relevant expertise than I possess have analysed these videos and found none that can only be explained by alien technology, as you would know if your "research" was not so severely limited by your bias.

you really need to go investigate the nimitz encounter as you clearly haven't

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_UFO_videos#Potential_explanations

As of 2020, the aerial phenomena recorded from the Nimitz and Roosevelt events are characterized by the Department of Defense as "unidentified".[32][33] Widespread media attention to these events has motivated theories and speculations from private individuals and groups about the underlying explanation(s), including those focused upon pseudoscientific topics such as ufology. Regarding the pseudoscientific explanations, writer Matthew Gault stated that these events "reflect the same pattern that's played out dozens of times before. Someone sees something strange in the sky ... and the public jumps to an illogical conclusion".[3] Writing in The New York Times, author and astrophysicist Adam Frank stated that with respect to claims of "evidence of extraterrestrial technology that can defy the laws of physics", the pilot's reports and cockpit instrumentation videos "doesn't amount to much".[34]

Mundane, skeptical explanations include instrument or software malfunction, anomaly or artifact,[35][36] human observational illusion (e.g., parallax) or interpretive error,[10][37][38][39] or common aircraft (e.g., a passenger airliner) or aerial device (e.g., weather balloon). Science writer Mick West argued, "Any time something unidentified shows up in restricted airspace, then that’s a real problem", but cautioned that believers in "alien disclosure" are "encroaching on these real issues of UAPs".[40] West cautioned that "the report suggests the majority of cases, if solved, would turn out to be a variety of things like airborne clutter or natural atmospheric phenomenon. A lack of data does not mean aliens are the likely answer".[41][32][33][3]

Colour me unimpressed.
 
You admit alien life exists but you can only apply human technology to their advanced race? Why they have technology you can not imagine same way you have technology in your pocket someone from 1400 would never be able to imagine

You have the same attitude as someone from the middle ages as well , time to enlighten yourself

The only one I can see in this thread doing that is yourself e.g. "...My theory based on other peoples reports is that they are silent unless close up within a few meters, it's an ion propulsion system people claim they hang around fresh water sources collecting hydrogen..."

A million years more advanced and they are still using ion drives....
 
Don't be so sure of yourself. It has been interesting to watch the evolution of UFO sightings, from the flash gordon saucers of the 50s and 60s to todays much less entertaining phenomena of lens flare and camera artifacts. Using the Bigfoot analogy again, after cell phone cameras became ubiquitous, Bigfoot proponents swore it would be a matter of months...which dragged to years...which dragged to decades before clear convincing foorage of the Squatch would appear. Never happened of course, because Bigfoot is imaginary. So re alien spacecraft visiting earth, as evidenced by the total lack of clear footage. Instead, we get increasingly vague and meaningless stuff like navy videos of planes and mundane lights in one's neighborhood which baffle the gullible...hence ALIENS!

A common theme is that the claimants will claim the aliens are using our current cutting edge technology for example: "...My theory .....it's an ion propulsion system people claim they hang around fresh water sources collecting hydrogen".
 
Guess what... I have a phone which replaces my words automatically until you add it ;)

The large Hadron collider has already been superseded by a larger collider, I wonder why... to discover new fundamental building blocks in that one day we can manipulate the world around us on a quantum level leading to who knows what...

If you are getting excited over spelling mistakes it means you ran out of ways to ridicule me so this is your only way it also means you can't prove me wrong either...

When and who? I've not read nor heard anything about this. How has this been kept so secret and how did you find out about it?
 
You admit alien life exists but you can only apply human technology to their advanced race?

No. I apply the laws of physics to their advanced race.

You on the other hand declare they use fusion reactors and ion drives. Do they use iPod Shuffles too? In due course you'll sound as quaint as having Flash Gordon stoke the atomic furnaces, or Cole Porter have lovers compare each other to miracle stuff such as cellophane.
 

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