Mojo
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So they’ll all be voting for both, unless they abstain.
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Tory democracy in a nutshell, those who pay vote.
Nessie
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The Tory membership are apparently far more interested in immigration than the cost of living crisis, which is the general public's main concern.
Tory party members are more than likely to have the income, so they do not need to worry about increasing prices.
Tory party members are more than likely to have the income, so they do not need to worry about increasing prices.
Andy_Ross
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Truss says she is going to expand the Rwanda operation and send even more asylum seekers.
So 1 then?
Coincidentally, Dad was telling me just now that he's got a sad letter from his grandfather begging a surgeon to waive part of a fee for Dad's mother as an adolescent, because he wasn't able to afford it.
Matthew Best
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It may be just me but I have no idea what any of that meant.
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Trebuchet
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Camel's nose under the tent flap.
Seriously? I'm American, and I understood it to mean that before the NHS people of limited means were reduced to begging for help from physicians. Or maybe I understood it BECAUSE I'm American.
Yup, Dad has in his possession a letter that his maternal grandfather wrote to the surgeon who was to treat Dad's grandfather's daughter begging for a reduction in the fee for treatment.
ETA, Dad had literally mentioned that about an hour before I made my post.
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Our family story is about my mother's sister - who would have been an older sister - she died from an infection (pre-antibiotics), their local chapel helped raise some money but my grandparents were still paying for her treatment long after she had died and been buried.
Nessie
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My dad remembers pre NHS, that everyone in his village in Worcestershire paid the GP some money each week and that meant no one had to pay to see him. Any meds or treatment on top of that had to be paid for, but there was also a fund to help people out.
We just have to look at the occasional appeals for funds for medical care from some of the US-based members of this forum to know what it would be like. I was dumbfounded the first time I saw one of those.
Carrot Flower King
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Meanwhile, Nadine "never knowingly out-stupided" Dorries sums up the Tory leadership debate's important issues: it's all about shoes and earrings...
Truss has the ambition, work ethic, and competence of Johnson but without his charisma - possibly because she did have beliefs that she's trampled on.
Sunak is probably more competent but with more baggage.
Basically the more I find out about either the more I dislike them
Carrot Flower King
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What is this "charisma" BlowJob is said to possess?
I've only ever seen someone cynically putting on an act of being a bumbling public school buffoon while avoiding actually doing any real work.
I've only ever seen someone cynically putting on an act of being a bumbling public school buffoon while avoiding actually doing any real work.
ponderingturtle
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And people eat it up. That act made him prime minister
P.J. Denyer
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Considering that Coffey was also in the picture, it seemed unfair not to mention the skip she got her outfit from.
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