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Cont: Australian Politics - The Morrison Period Part II

psionl0 said:
So where is the bad bit?
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Here:

Ms Baynes has publicly advocated for the controversial Seven Mountains Mandate — a dominionist religious movement that seeks to gain influence over seven spheres of society, including government, education and media — and shift their focus towards evangelical Christian beliefs.
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psionl0 said:
I just don't see why that is so reaction worthy. It is a total nothing.
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The person in question is a dominionist and advocates for a major dominionist organisation. I get that you don't see an issue but it is to other people.

Now that I think about it, why isn't this an issue to you?
 
psionl0 said:
I just don't see why that is so reaction worthy. It is a total nothing.
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It would indeed be "a total nothing" if she limited her scope of action to herself or at least her own home. But I will not stand by and let her apply her scary-lunatic medieval pogrom and failure to understand the laws and government of Australia to me or mine, or the rest of Australia. So she is a "very scary something".
 
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Wildy said:
The person in question is a dominionist and advocates for a major dominionist organisation. I get that you don't see an issue but it is to other people.

Now that I think about it, why isn't this an issue to you?
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Norman Alexander said:
It would indeed be "a total nothing" if she limited her scope of action to herself or at least her own home. But I will not stand by and let her apply her scary-lunatic medieval pogrom and failure to understand the laws and government of Australia to me or mine, or the rest of Australia. So she is a "very scary something".
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Who cares if she wants to peddle her religion? Do you think she will have everybody casting stones at sinners or something?
 
I just want to repeat this bit:

...a dominionist religious movement that seeks to gain influence over seven spheres of society, including government, education and media — and shift their focus towards evangelical Christian beliefs.
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You're happy, then, psionl0, for our government to be taken over by evangelical Christians? You're okay with theocracy? 'Cause I'm not.

But I guess it would finally give us an answer to whether creationism should be taught as science.
 
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Moving on:

Scott Morrison confirms Coalition won't allow NT and ACT a right to vote on voluntary assisted dying if re-elected

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has confirmed a re-elected Coalition government won't allow the Northern Territory and ACT a chance to vote on legalising voluntary assisted dying.

As of today it is legal in every state, after a marathon debate saw laws pass through New South Wales parliament this morning.

However, the Northern Territory and ACT don't have the ability to pass assisted dying laws, due to a long-standing Commonwealth ban on Australia's territories holding a vote on the issue.

"There are differences between territories and states, and that is under constitution, and we are not proposing any changes to that," Mr Morrison said today.

It has now erupted as an election issue in the Northern Territory, with a Country Liberal Party candidate accused of "treachery" for not supporting the NT Parliament being allowed a vote.
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Even after the entire rest of the country has allowed it, we're not even allowed to decide to allow it.
 
arthwollipot said:
Theocracy is their stated goal. They're not even shy about saying it, to the right audiences.
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Wildy said:
Even if the goal she wants is to force everyone to follow her specific brand of Christianity?
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Norman Alexander said:
I think you misspelled "impose a Christian Taliban on the whole country".
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Nothing that has been quoted suggests that their intention is to overthrow the government and install a "theocratic" dictatorship.
 
psionl0 said:
Nothing that has been quoted suggests that their intention is to overthrow the government and install a "theocratic" dictatorship.
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Wikipedia:

Seven Mountains Dominionism (also known as the Seven Mountains Mandate, or 7M) has become a more prevalent manifestation of Kingdom Now theology since the early 2010s. Bill Bright, Loren Cunningham, and Francis Schaeffer are often credited as having been given the same divine vision revealing the Seven Mountain Mandate in 1975. The mandate proposes that there are seven "mountains" that Christians must control in order to establish a global Christian theocracy and prepare the world for Jesus' return. Those seven "mountains" are government, education, media, arts and entertainment, religion, family, and business.
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psionl0 said:
Where is the bit about overthrowing government? Where is the bit about a dictatorship?
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Where is the bit about a violent armed uprising and concentration camps for non-believers?

Tell me that, sceptics!
 
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Sideroxylon said:
Where is the bit about a violent armed uprising and concentration camps for non-believers?

Tell me that, sceptics!
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You can adopt a mocking tone if you wish but you are just making my point. They are just trying to spread their beliefs which is not the shock horror crime of the century that arthwollipot seems to think it is.
 
psionl0 said:
You can adopt a mocking tone if you wish but you are just making my point. They are just trying to spread their beliefs which is not the shock horror crime of the century that arthwollipot seems to think it is.
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I know! Just trying to spread their beliefs in a theocratic Australia. Meanwhile the sceptics want to spread their secularist beliefs but arth is fine with that. Talk about bloody double standards, right?
 
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