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This sentence proves that everything JoeMorgue says is true.

Everything JoeMorgue says is true. My cite is the first sentence.

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Emre_1974tr said:
No, the Qur'an interprets itself. So I only make my own comments, I don't look at anyone's opinions.

I also research translations myself. All translations have errors. I always find the correct translation myself.
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Yes, I too have interpreted the Quran. It is quite clear to me it was all made up by Muhammad who claimed to be a prophet in order to enslave peoples minds and make them fight his wars for him. I can quote you many verses that support my view. But the most clear one is that the Quran says many times.

'Obey Allah and the messenger'

In other words obey the messenger, Muhammad.

As for translations I use multiple English translations to get an over view, and do not rely upon just one.
 
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Everyone is free to believe what they wish, according to Quran. This is the goal of the test world. To confront yourself.

Quran only allows a war of defense.

If you read the full of the verses, you will always see the struggle with the attackers in the defense battle.

Example;

2:190 Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors.

2:191 Fight them wherever you meet them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. Do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then fight them. Thus is the reward of those who do not appreciate.

2:192 If they cease, then God is Forgiving, Compassionate.

2:193 Fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God's. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.

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Here again, He says, fight with the attackers.

But if you pull out a single verse. You make it look like saying the opposite.

And look at:

49:9 And if two parties of believers battle with each other, you shall reconcile them; but if one of them aggresses against the other, then you shall fight the one aggressing until it complies with the command of God. Once it complies, then you shall reconcile the two groups with justice, and be equitable; for God loves those who are equitable.

As you can see saying, if the attackers are Muslims, stop them too.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
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Everyone is free to believe what they wish, according to Quran. This is the goal of the test world. To confront yourself.
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Why? To what point and what purpose? Why did the all powerful God create being, give them free will, intentionally give them free will, and then punish them when they get it wrong?

Your God sounds like a psychopath.

Quran only allows a war of defense.
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The Quran also says horses can fly. Why do should I care what it says?
 
Emre_1974tr said:
Again:

Everyone is free to believe what they wish, according to Quran. This is the goal of the test world. To confront yourself.

Quran only allows a war of defense.

If you read the full of the verses, you will always see the struggle with the attackers in the defense battle.

Example;

2:190 Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors.

2:191 Fight them wherever you meet them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. Do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then fight them. Thus is the reward of those who do not appreciate.

2:192 If they cease, then God is Forgiving, Compassionate.

2:193 Fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God's. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.

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Here again, He says, fight with the attackers.

But if you pull out a single verse. You make it look like saying the opposite.

And look at:

49:9 And if two parties of believers battle with each other, you shall reconcile them; but if one of them aggresses against the other, then you shall fight the one aggressing until it complies with the command of God. Once it complies, then you shall reconcile the two groups with justice, and be equitable; for God loves those who are equitable.

As you can see saying, if the attackers are Muslims, stop them too.
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Can you imagine Jesus saying anything about fighting?

Muhammad was a conniving, lying bandit who started wars. He started the battle of Badr by throwing a handful of dust, then excused himself in the Quran claiming it was God who slew the unbelievers not him.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
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Everyone is free to believe what they wish, according to Quran. This is the goal of the test world. To confront yourself...

(SNIP)
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Well, Emre, as long as you don't believe in beating or killing innocent women and children, or forcing them to follow your delusions of grandeur, I wish you luck, although your inability to critically analyze your beliefs and everything you've posted (like your nibiru prophecy) gives all your arguments zero credibility.
 
AmyStrange said:
I wish you luck, although your inability to critically analyze your beliefs and everything you've posted (like your nibiru prophecy) gives all your arguments zero credibility.
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On the contrary, I am sharing the results of very critical and deep analysis with you.

As for the Nemesis thing, I said it was an allegation. But its realization is a very high claim. Nibiru is part of the Nemesis Planetary System, by the way.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
No. They are hadiths.
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Quran 17.1 briefly refers to the night journey of Muhammad on a flying donkey. The full story is not told in the Quran, which often makes obscure statements that need more information to be comprehensible. Hence we refer to the hadiths.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
On the contrary, I am sharing the results of very critical and deep analysis with you.

As for the Nemesis thing, I said it was an allegation. But its realization is a very high claim. Nibiru is part of the Nemesis Planetary System, by the way.
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If you believe it, then your deep analysis wasn't very deep.
 
Scorpion said:
Quran 17.1 briefly refers to the night journey of Muhammad on a flying donkey. The full story is not told in the Quran, which often makes obscure statements that need more information to be comprehensible. Hence we refer to the hadiths.
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Okay. Your Bible has a talking snake.
 
Scorpion said:
Quran 17.1 briefly refers to the night journey of Muhammad on a flying donkey. The full story is not told in the Quran, which often makes obscure statements that need more information to be comprehensible. Hence we refer to the hadiths.
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No. That verse tells that the Mirac event took place, at most.

But it doesn't explain whether it happened by spaceship or some other way.

Lies like flying horses happen in deflector books like your Bible. The Bible and other hadith books mislead people with false details and lies.

The Qur'an gives sufficient and true information completely. Mohammed traveled that night.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
No. That verse tells that the Mirac event took place, at most.

But it doesn't explain whether it happened by spaceship or some other way.

Lies like flying horses happen in deflector books like your Bible. The Bible and other hadith books mislead people with false details and lies.

The Qur'an gives sufficient and true information completely. Mohammed traveled that night.
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That's the problem, Emre, You say that they're lies, but you offer no proof that anything you post isn't a lie either, and that's why your arguments have no credibility.

ETA: I mean, I could point to a sentence (or quote) from a Stephen King novel and that should be enough to prove that killer clowns do live in every sewer in the world, because that's the exact same thing that you're doing.
 
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Emre_1974tr said:
If you read all my posts in this forum, you will see that I have presented countless proofs.
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Nope, all your proofs come from a book that you have to first prove isn't a lie to begin with, and you haven't done that yet.

I mean, I could point to a sentence (or quote) from a Stephen King novel and that should be enough to prove that killer clowns do live in every sewer in the world, because that's the exact same thing that you're doing.
 
AmyStrange said:
Nope, all your proofs come from a book that you have to first prove isn't a lie to begin with, and you haven't done that yet.

I mean, I could point to a sentence (or quote) from a Stephen King novel and that should be enough to prove that killer clowns do live in every sewer in the world, because that's the exact same thing that you're doing.
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No, you didn't read what I wrote. I showed countless proofs.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
No, you didn't read what I wrote. I showed countless proofs.
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Good luck with that lie.

ETA: I have nothing against you Emre, or your beliefs, but pretending your arguments are facts is why you have no credibility here.

Remember: Extremist Muslim terrorists also believe that their arguments are facts too. Just about every religion has some extremists who do the same damn thing.

Some of them even believe that God talks to them and tells them to kill.
 
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