Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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So plague rat, and plague rat wife are fighting for the right to visit their ill daughter unvaccinated, endangering her. That's not a right, that's ignorant, narcissistic selfishness. These people are scum, unfit to parent; no wonder Ottawa residents want them to GTFO.

On another note, imagine the stench emanating from those trucks.
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Steve said:
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Could be something they live with every day and thus unnoticeable to them.
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YEAH ! They are the most evil scum ever !




They should have their kids taken away from them !

They should be rounded up and put in "isolation centers" !


( - about 55%, and about 52% of democrats, respectively )
 
Bubba said:
YEAH ! They are the most evil scum ever !
They should have their kids taken away from them !
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Yes, of course. Parents who refuse to take precautions to ensure the safety of their ill children cannot be trusted to care for them; they have demonstrated such poor decision-making that society has to act. The children clearly should be removed for their own safety because the parents are too stubbornly stupid. This is fundamental and only sociopaths or the egregiously ignorant, or perhaps the most creduously gulled would allow such behavior to continue.

Happy we could reach common ground! Although I had to snip the last two sentences of your post because they were too cement-headed.
 
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With the horrendously unacceptable survival rate, we need to do more to punish these horrible people, if they can even be considered people !
 
Bubba said:
. . . we need to do more to punish these horrible people
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Indeed; parents who would endanger their children because they are too ignorant, lazy, or self-indulgent to take proper precautions are terrible people. Scum, in fact. With the broad availability of life-saving vaccines to protect yourself and others, the refusal to avail yourself of such to protect a vulnerable loved one is just plain stupid scumbaggery. It's cement-head stupid, and their children should be removed and placed with a family who might actually care for them properly.

Again, happy to see that you agree; perhaps you're waking from the nightmares the paranoid manipulative media you consume generates.


ETA: The couple in question here not only refuse to vaccinate in order to visit their child, whom they haven't seen in months, they would also endanger the other patients in the palliative facility. This isn't their "right." It is a narcissistic, selfish indulgence that only further illustrates their incompetence as parents, and as empathetic members of society. They suck.
 
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Bubba said:
With the horrendously unacceptable survival rate, we need to do more to punish these horrible people, if they can even be considered people !
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You and all the other misinformationists love to only focus on the mortality rate, and ignore the many-fold more likely effects this disease (and your misinformation) can have, including among children. Along with not acknowledging those facts, you also do not acknowledge the benefits the vaccines provide for the breakthrough cases that do occur, as well as their expected performance for future variants. Here are but a small sampling of those facts and studies, with appropriate quotes following each.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022...&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter

For those children whose symptoms persist when they go home, Erdem advises letting them ease back into a regular routine and giving them the time needed to get back to normal.

Erdem stressed that the best protection is being vaccinated against COVID-19. "Having the vaccine is more effective than not having it. Even if you can still get the illness, it is not as severe in the majority of cases," she said.
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https://www.medpagetoday.com/infect...&utm_term=NL_Gen_Int_Daily_News_Update_active

Al-Aly's group also found that COVID-19 survivors still carried significantly higher risks for new mental health disorders when compared with individuals with seasonal influenza. Also, those hospitalized for COVID-19 likewise were at a higher risk compared with patients hospitalized for any other cause.

"The findings suggest that people who survive the acute phase of Covid-19 are at increased risk of an array of incident mental health disorders. Tackling mental health disorders among survivors of Covid-19 should be a priority," Al-Aly and co-authors wrote.
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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01689-3

We show that, beyond the first 30 d after infection, individuals with COVID-19 are at increased risk of incident cardiovascular disease spanning several categories, including cerebrovascular disorders, dysrhythmias, ischemic and non-ischemic heart disease, pericarditis, myocarditis, heart failure and thromboembolic disease. These risks and burdens were evident even among individuals who were not hospitalized during the acute phase of the infection and increased in a graded fashion according to the care setting during the acute phase (non-hospitalized, hospitalized and admitted to intensive care). Our results provide evidence that the risk and 1-year burden of cardiovascular disease in survivors of acute COVID-19 are substantial.
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https://www.medpagetoday.com/specia...5&utm_term=NL_Daily_DHE_dual-gmail-definition

The quick answer is lots of kids still get serious illness from COVID-19. And there are lots of concerns about long-term consequences in kids from a bad COVID-19 infection -- i.e., lung damage or heart damage or damage to some other organ -- as well as there being certainly meaningful amounts of hospitalizations of kids.
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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0

Whilst myocarditis can be life-threatening, most vaccine-associated myocarditis events have been mild and self-limiting22. The risk observed here is small and confined to the 7-day period following vaccination, whereas the lifetime risk of morbidity and mortality following SARS-CoV-2 infection is substantial. Indeed, myocardial injury is very common in persons admitted to hospital with SARS-CoV-2 infection26, when evaluated systematically using high-sensitivity cardiac troponin tests27.
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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022...&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter

Only 27 percent of children aged five to 11 have received a first dose of the vaccine in the United States. Hospitalizations reached a pandemic high of 914 children per day this month, up dramatically from the previous peak of 342 in September 2021.

The first week of January 2022 saw Texas Children's Hospital in Houston report 12 babies in intensive care with COVID-19.

Babies are too young for the COVID-19 shot, but Kathryn Gray, attending physician of maternal-fetal medicine at Brigham and Women's Hospital, said research increasingly shows that vaccination during pregnancy leads to antibodies safely being transferred to the baby, offering limited protection.
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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022...&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-nwletter

In any case, the current vaccines generate broad protection from severe disease caused by variants—one that surpasses the effect of infection.

"In the case of SARS-CoV-2, the argument that infection is better than vaccination isn't well-supported based on current evidence," Boyd said. "It is clear that the current vaccines have saved many lives worldwide during this pandemic. If you are hoping to avoid future infection with an as-yet-unknown variant, your best bet is to get vaccinated and boosted now."
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How you can continue to promote the nonsense you do, can only lead me to speculate things about you I dare not mention. I won't ask for an explanation, as save for a sincere retraction and apology, there is not a coherent one.
 
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Bubba said:
With the horrendously unacceptable survival rate . . .
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Aside from the fact that we do not truly understand all the implications of COVID-19 infections, much less the survival rate, this poisoning of the well is particularly stupid. Any person who would not avail themself of a proven, safe, effective, life-saving vaccine in order to visit and comfort a vulnerable loved one is a buffoon, and in the case of a parent giving succor to a child, not worthy of the title parent.

I can't imagine a scenario in which I (or any responsible parent) would demur taking an itty-bitty, safe and proven effective pinprick in order to visit and offer love and support to an ill child. I mean, not seeing your child for months because you were gulled by a facebook post, or from a paranoid propaganda website . . . This is the discussion we're having. What sort of self-indulgent nonsense is this? What kind of nutbar does such a thing?

Ill-informed, well-gulled, paranoid credules, that's who.
 
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Cosmic Yak said:
If the pandemic is not real, as your scare quotes would indicate, then there is nothing to protect against.
Which of your contradictory posts do you actually believe, Bubba?
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Bubba said:
There you go again

What is the alleged IFR you trust again please? (minus the comorbities)
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Perhaps you didn't understand the question. Certainly, your response here is not an answer to that question.
Let's try that again:

Which of your contradictory posts do you actually believe, Bubba?
 
With a distinct lack of the kind of world-changing events predicted by Childlike Empress, the Canadian police have begun removing the remaining protestors from the so-called 'Freedom Convoy'.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60420469

Authorities last weekend cleared the most economically damaging blockade - a bridge linking Windsor, Ontario, with the US state of Michigan. Trucker protests at other border crossings in Coutts, Alberta, and Emerson, Manitoba, ended this week.

Many Ottawa residents have expressed frustration at local police, saying not enough was done to clear the protest, which has paralysed parts of the city around parliament and affected local businesses.
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So far, the "Freedom Convoy" has adversely affected the rights of ordinary Ottawans to go about their daily business, created economic hardship in both Canada and the US, and has also led to the reduction of freedoms for the whole of Canada, due to the invoking of the Emergencies Act. In addition, as this article reports, there was a concerted attempt by American supporters of the protests to flood the emergency services phone lines with bogus calls, thus endangering the health and safety of the city's residents. I would say this also represents unwarranted interference in the domestic affairs of another country, something I'm sure most of those Americans would oppose if it was tried Stateside.
I am not aware of any actual positive effects of this protest. The related protests in other countries too, do not seem to have had any significant positive effect on anything, and seem largely to have fizzled out. I should point out as well that my world view has not crumbled at all.
 
Resume said:
Beliefs are a subset of knowledge; you come to them through a careful examination of the evidence. Anecdotes are not good evidence; Claims are not evidence at all. The claim, for instance, that Ari Onassis is Jr.'s dad is based on nothing more than your feelings, and can be rejected until further data is presented, of which you have none. This is what skepticism is about, and why you fail at it: your standards suck.
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Irrelevant because...

I said I think JJ was Aris son. I cannot know, but I suspect, or think so.

Then pseudoSkeps show up, intending to make me wrong, with whatever it was they pulled out of their butts and posted.

I pointed out the fact that cannot know/declare either way. Same in Trudeau's case. How do they know?
 
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Resume said:
Aside from the fact that we do not truly understand all the implications of COVID-19 infections, much less the survival rate, this poisoning of the well is particularly stupid. Any person who would not avail themself of a proven, safe, effective, life-saving vaccine in order to visit and comfort a vulnerable loved one is a buffoon, and in the case of a parent giving succor to a child, not worthy of the title parent.

I can't imagine a scenario in which I (or any responsible parent) would demur taking an itty-bitty, safe and proven effective pinprick in order to visit and offer love and support to an ill child. I mean, not seeing your child for months because you were gulled by a facebook post, or from a paranoid propaganda website . . . This is the discussion we're having. What sort of self-indulgent nonsense is this? What kind of nutbar does such a thing?

Ill-informed, well-gulled, paranoid credules, that's who.
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You be rockin it !
 
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Cosmic Yak said:
With a distinct lack of the kind of world-changing events predicted by Childlike Empress, the Canadian police have begun removing the remaining protestors from the so-called 'Freedom Convoy'.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60420469



So far, the "Freedom Convoy" has adversely affected the rights of ordinary Ottawans to go about their daily business, created economic hardship in both Canada and the US, and has also led to the reduction of freedoms for the whole of Canada, due to the invoking of the Emergencies Act. In addition, as this article reports, there was a concerted attempt by American supporters of the protests to flood the emergency services phone lines with bogus calls, thus endangering the health and safety of the city's residents. I would say this also represents unwarranted interference in the domestic affairs of another country, something I'm sure most of those Americans would oppose if it was tried Stateside.
I am not aware of any actual positive effects of this protest. The related protests in other countries too, do not seem to have had any significant positive effect on anything, and seem largely to have fizzled out. I should point out as well that my world view has not crumbled at all.
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There is just a endless stream of them isn't there - the doomsayer conspiracy theorists predicting these terrible world changing events that never, ever happen. They're a bit like those weird churches that use their "calculations" from their reading of their Bibble to predict the end of the world, only to have their predicted dates pass uneventfully.
 
Bubba said:
:thumbsup:

You be rockin it !
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Yes, I did. Especially this part:
. . . proven, safe, effective, life-saving vaccine
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Any parent who would abandon their child as these plague rats have done, deserve to lose all parental claims upon that child. That they haven't seen their daughter for months because they've been gulled by disinformationists is no excuse; I hope they never get a chance to see her and perhaps indoctrinate her with cement-headed credulity. What moronic scumbags they are . . .

" I haven't seen my daughter in months ," the plague rat whines; "Good!" any responsible parent counters, "You're idiotic ideas about 'freedom' would only poison her."
 
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Cosmic Yak said:
Perhaps you didn't understand the question. Certainly, your response here is not an answer to that question.
Let's try that again:

Which of your contradictory posts do you actually believe, Bubba?
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I don't think perhaps enters into it; the cognitive dissonance that necessarily imbues every single atom of that poster's epistomology is rather breathtaking; imagine being wrong about everything, without ever once examining that wrongness for a second, much less admitting it, even to yourself.
 
Resume said:
I don't think perhaps enters into it; the cognitive dissonance that necessarily imbues every single atom of that poster's epistomology is rather breathtaking; imagine being wrong about everything, without ever once examining that wrongness for a second, much less admitting it, even to yourself.
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Yeah, I know. I was just trying to be kind.
 
Police are still clearing things out in Ottawa today.

Police renew advance as 2nd day of major enforcement begins (cbc.ca)
Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson said Saturday morning around 20 semi-truck trailers had been confiscated by police yesterday, and others left of their own accord.
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I wonder if the use of "confiscated" instead of "impounded" would imply that these trucks will be auctioned off to help defray the damages caused by the convoy. This would be a heavy loss for a trucker -- those things aren't cheap. They said they were willing to die for their cause, though, so I guess they might end up paying only a small price.
 
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