Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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Petra said:
Those who criticise the mainstream will get bad reports from factchecker sites. Can we please dispense with factchecker sites' opinions and just stick to the actual material?
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Since the fact checkers check facts using the science that demolishes your assertions, that would be awfully convenient for you.

Unfortunately, objective reality exists whether you like it or not, whether you live in it or not.
 
W.D. Clinger said:
Petra has been wrong about so many things, ranging from the trivial (whether anyone has replied) to the semi-relevant (Kary Mullis's eventual agreement with the mainstream opinion that AIDS is caused by retroviruses) and relevant (whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus exists at all), that what Petra may be "clear on" is not a reliable guide to anything. From the evidence Petra has supplied within this thread, it would be fair to say Petra's opinions on matters of science are worthless.
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Lot of that going around in this thread.
 
Petra said:
Kary Mullis died of pneumonia at the age of 74 in October 2019 shortly before the advent of covid. Kary didn't see the PCR as a diagnostic tool but as a tool for what it was invented - to multiply strands of DNA. Of course, tools can be used for things other than what they were invented for but he said himself:
https://odysee.com/@yellowgenius:0/...y-Mullis--It-doesn't-tell-you-you're-sick-.:4 (1m42s)

"PCR doesn't tell you that you're sick."

Interestingly, in this fact check they say the quote is tied to HIV not covid. No it isn't tied to HIV, regardless of whether he was speaking about HIV at the time there is nothing to suggest that he isn't making the statement as a general statement.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...-pcr-tests-outdated-lacks-context/9198197002/

I don't know what he thought about vaccines.
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So in lieu of actual evidence, you cite a crank. Why am I unsurprised?
 
bruto said:
There are plenty of people with odious opinions on this forum. But it is not a public demonstration. We certainly are not all marching together. I think there's a difference. These are a selected group of people demonstrating with some degree of solidarity, and there has been public outcry about the symbols shown, which have, for many, tainted the demonstration and called the character of the demonstrators into question. Even if it were not necessary I think it would be prudent for those who do not share those ideas to say something.
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It's nonsense. "Public outcry" is fabricated. You know about it because of the propaganda you consume, and yet have never been to such a demonstration to check out what kind of people are there. Right?

If there are such people, genuine people, on these demonstrations, they are there because even Nazis don't like their rights taken from them. And everybody showing such signs knows what they are doing and how counterproductive that is. The definition of a job for a paid disruptor.
 
Petra said:
I've asked a couple of times on this thread for someone to argue against the claim that the suspicion of a new virus has no scientific foundation. No one has replied yet.
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Here's a detailed breakdown of your comment.

1. UNSCIENTIFIC: SUSPICION OF NEW VIRUS
Suspicion of a "novel" virus is based on an alleged "cluster" of 44 cases of pneumonia of "unknown origin" in the highly-polluted city of Wuhan.
44 cases doesn't make a cluster
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44 similar cases of a pneumonia that defies classification is the very definition of a cluster.

and pneumonia has many causes - "unknown origin" makes no sense.
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"Unknown origin" makes sense if the Chinese had tested these patients for all common and then uncommon causes for pneumonia, and they all came back negative. At that point they concluded they were dealing with something new.

Then, if indeed these 44 cases of pneumonia were caused by a novel virus why is the association between pneumonia and the novel virus now completely lost?
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It is not lost. The novel virus is now known as Sars-Cov-2, and it causes a disease called COVID-19. One of the complications arising from advanced COVID-19 is pneumonia.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2020-DON229
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See WHO Director-General's opening remarks at the media briefing on COVID-19 - 11 March 2020.
 
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Petra said:
For months and months I didn't know a single soul or know anyone who knew anyone or very few who'd even tested positive. I had zero sense of what this "covid" was. But there was loads of propaganda 24/7, all the "cases" - the result of a test, not a diagnosis. There were 313,000 cases of the flu in 2019 in Australia. Did we get those cases told every day. Did any of us know a thing about people getting the flu and pneumonia. No.
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Not only that, they simply accumulated the "cases" without ever substracting those who recovered. I remember I did a spreadsheet on this in the spring of 2020 which showed the actual "cases" decline while the panic machine based on Johns Hopkins numbers et al was in full swing. At one stage I stopped doing it because the point was proven.
 
carlitos said:
So, for example, the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians in the Maidan protests could not have distanced themselves from the Azov Battalion and other neo-nazis that were similarly protesting against the puppet Russian government. Right? The middle of Ukrainian society, with their collective spines, were protesting and alongside them were some Neo-nazis with flags.
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Yes, right. but the Bandera Nazis were instrumental in what was going on. The Putsch, the Odessa massacre, the atrocities in the Donbass, all done by fascist groups who were not fringe to the "movement", but at its core.

Nazis are not instrumental in the movement against the "Great Reset".
 
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Childlike Empress said:
Not only that, they simply accumulated the "cases" without ever substracting those who recovered. I remember I did a spreadsheet on this in the spring of 2020 which showed the actual "cases" decline while the panic machine based on Johns Hopkins numbers et al was in full swing. At one stage I stopped doing it because the point was proven.
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I actually found the last version of it, from April 14, 2020. Blue are the "cases", green are the recovered, orange is the former with the latter substracted. Red are deaths. All numbers from Johns Hopkins University (for Germany).

[imgw=640]https://i.imgur.com/VPjlkMG.png[/imgw]
 
Foster Zygote said:
Could you share some of these images with us? And please define what you mean by "people falling flat on their faces". Are you claiming to have seen video of people standing or walking who suddenly fell forward onto their faces, and that this was attributed to COVID-19?
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That's right, I also saw the video. I think it was from China. Might have been scary govt propaganda.

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Resume said:
No, you should provide evidence to support you claim, rather than be a serial bald asserter.

CANE.
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Wrong again. No such claim was made.

I merely asked, or pointed out that an actual skeptic would know the possibility exists, rather than swallow/regurgitate propaganda dished out by MSM and Trudeau on the truckers.

Then came the latest abusive tirade.



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Excess deaths in Germany

The Economist magazine has been tracking excess deaths per 100,000 in many countries red line. The pink shading is deaths attributed to Covid-19. The dip of the red line in March of 2021 is deeper than I have seen for other countries, but otherwise the graph looks similar.
 

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beachnut said:
Off Guardian is an intense pseudoscience website, and you like it because it promotes unproven conspiracy theories and false information regarding the Coronavirus.
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OffGuardian claimed to have originated from members of the public, banned from the Guardian's counter argument editorials.

However, entertainingly, the editor OffGuardian, is Kit Knightly, whom writes for "Russia Insider" a extreme right wing holocaust denial website.
https://russia-insider.com/en/tales-holohoax

and the anti-Jewish and Covid denying, Ron Paul Institute.
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archive...e-and-illogical-and-maybe-that-s-no-accident/
 
Matthew Ellard said:
OffGuardian claimed to have originated from members of the public, banned from the Guardian's counter argument editorials.

However, entertainingly, the editor OffGuardian, is Kit Knightly, whom writes for "Russia Insider" a extreme right wing holocaust denial website.
https://russia-insider.com/en/tales-holohoax

and the anti-Jewish and Covid denying, Ron Paul Institute.
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archive...e-and-illogical-and-maybe-that-s-no-accident/
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You don't say.
 
Facebook's Fact Checkers v The British Medical Journal.

https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o95

Apparently one of the bmj's pieces got published on RFK Jr's anti-vax site resulting in a bit of a tiff.

The BMJ has locked horns with Facebook and the gatekeepers of international fact checking after one of its investigations was wrongly labelled with “missing context” and censored on the world’s largest social network. Rebecca Coombes and Madlen Davies report
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This should be fun.
 
Chris_Halkides said:
The Economist magazine has been tracking excess deaths per 100,000 in many countries red line. The pink shading is deaths attributed to Covid-19. The dip of the red line in March of 2021 is deeper than I have seen for other countries, but otherwise the graph looks similar.
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What a laughable "graph". There has been no excess mortality in Germany in 2020. It started with the fake vaccines in 2021. Here are numbers:

https://bittel.tv/wp-content/uploads/simple-file-list/Analysen-Europa-18_05_2021.pdf
 
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