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Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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Cosmic Yak said:
Tom Palven, how does one go about scaring a snow leopard to death with nocebo Faucian propaganda?
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Tom Palven said:
Cui bono?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/snow-leopard-rilu-miller-park-zoo-covid_n_61daff45e4b0c7d8b8b10f8d
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Unsurprisingly, this does not answer my question at all.
You have claimed, repeatedly, that Covid is not dangerous at all, and that it is the psychological effects of media propaganda that are literally scaring people to death.
How can a snow leopard be affected by such influences?
As for who benefits, well, the zoo doesn't for a start. I'm not sure who else would be involved. Perhaps you'd like to explain who you think is killing zoo animals as part of a Covid-related plot, because (to my relief) my mind clearly doesn't work like yours, and I cannot see how that would work.
 
Cosmic Yak said:
Unsurprisingly, this does not answer my question at all...

...Perhaps you'd like to explain who you think is killing zoo animals as part of a Covid-related plot...
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I am skeptical about the Huffington Post assertion that Covid-19 or one of its alleged variants killed a snow leopard.

If I were really concerned about this, I would seek the opinion of someone who has credibility with me, like Kit Knightly.
 
Tom Palven said:
I am skeptical about the Huffington Post assertion that Covid-19 or one of its alleged variants killed a snow leopard.

If I were really concerned about this, I would seek the opinion of someone who has credibility with me, like Kit Knightly.
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Go ahead and ignore all those pesky facts that completely undermine your personal narrative- but do not for one minute pretend that this counts as critical thinking.
I note that you have previously mentioned the CDC as a source that has credibility with you. One of the reports of animals becoming infected with Covid, that was linked to here, was from them. Are you going to ignore that too?
Looking back at your track record in this thread, I have absolutely no doubt that you will. All you have done is make ridiculous assertions, and then run away from refutation. Presumably this is the only way you can maintain your bizarre beliefs.
 
Tom Palven said:
I am skeptical about the Huffington Post assertion that Covid-19 or one of its alleged variants killed a snow leopard.

If I were really concerned about this, I would seek the opinion of someone who has credibility with me, like Kit Knightly.
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Poor attempt as misdirection.

Your skepticism is ill founded. This should not need to be explained to any thinking person, but the "assertion" was actually not made by the Huffington Post, or any any other news outlet for that matter. The cause of death was determined and reported by veterinarians at the Miller Park Zoo.

How would a discredited "reporter" such as Kit Knightly go about confirming first hand the cause of the leopard's death? Would he conduct his own post mortem exam? Is he a veterinarian? His opinion of news reports is entirely worthless.

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Tom Palven said:
I am skeptical about the Huffington Post assertion that Covid-19 or one of its alleged variants killed a snow leopard.

If I were really concerned about this, I would seek the opinion of someone who has credibility with me, like Kit Knightly.
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We get it, Tom. You can't admit that Kit Knightly was never an investigative journalist for The Guardian, and you can't admit that you either lied about that or credulously assumed something that is false.

It's like pointing out that someone is eating a **** sandwich he was offered from the back of a windowless van in front of everyone because it was speared with a toothpick bearing a little label reading "FOR SMART PEOPLE ONLY", and then watching him obstinately eat more of it while insisting that it's delicious roast beef.
 
Tom Palven said:
If I were really concerned about this, I would seek the opinion of someone who has credibility with me, like Kit Knightly.
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And when are you going to address the debunking of Knightly, which you asked for and which has been posted at least 3 times, including before you asked for it?

And I would love to see you tell my sister, who was at the time a senior nurse in palliative care in a hospital closed to new admissions because of Covid, that what she had was some "mass psychosis", which flattened her like being hit by a double decker bus. And then you can explain to the folk running the 2 studies she is subsequently involved in how their tests to confirm that she did have Covid were wrong and how they are part of some great conspiracy (that one always goes down well in UK universities and within the NHS)...
 
carlitos said:
What kind of stupid question is that? “Who benefits” from a rare species of animal dying? No one, that’s who. What kind of crippled epistemology would lead you to link a Huffington Post article about this animal and ask who benefits?

You should go to a community college and sign up for a logic 101 class; it could really help you.
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I think maybe he's taken Conspiracy Theories In U.S. History with Professor Professorson.
 
Tom Palven said:
There are a number of links to that story, and it appears to be from a quasi-governmental source.

How did you determine that it is crap?
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A "quasi-governmental source".... :rolleyes:

Might I suggest you start thinking for youself?
 
zorro99 said:
Some wise guy on another thread posted this:

Bhakdi/Burkhardt pathology results show 93% of people who died after being vaccinated were killed by the vaccine

The vaccine was implicated in 93% of the deaths in the patients they examined. What’s troubling is the coroner didn’t implicate the vaccine in any of those deaths.

Summary

The vaccines are bad news. Fifteen bodies were examined (all died from 7 days to 6 months after vaccination; ages 28 to 95). The coroner or the public prosecutor didn’t associate the vaccine as the cause of death in any of the cases. However, further examination revealed that the vaccine was implicated in the deaths of 14 of the 15 cases. The most attacked organ was the heart (in all of the people who died), but other organs were attacked as well. The implications are potentially enormous resulting in millions of deaths. The vaccines should be immediately halted.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/bhakd...vaccinated-were-killed-by-the-vaccine/5765859
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But then anyone with two functional baton cells to rub together would see the "source" as Chossudovsky's anti-Semitic, pro-Putin cesspit and ignore it.
 
Chris_Halkides said:
The Economist magazine has been estimating excess deaths since the start of the pandemic. Presently it stands as 18.9 million worldwide, although the error bars are large: from 11.8 million to 22 million. I prefer not to get into a debate about whether or not this is "of biblical proportions," on the basis that I don't know how to interpret that phrase. Moreover, this figure does not encompass all of the harms of this disease.
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So more deaths than the low-end estimates for the "Spanish" 'flu of a century ago. Despite vastly better medical knowledge and vaccines.
:rolleyes:
 
Tom Palven said:
I am skeptical about the Huffington Post assertion that Covid-19 or one of its alleged variants killed a snow leopard.

If I were really concerned about this, I would seek the opinion of someone who has credibility with me, like Kit Knightly.
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So you're freely admitting that you need to be told how to think by people you consider experts, despite the fact they are delusional cranks?

Why should we bother engaging you?
 
Tom Palven said:
What are your own top 10 miscues, pray tell?
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Your staggering inability to think for yourself, unwillingness to accept when you are demonstrably wrong, uncritical acceptance of utterly unreliable "sources" and abject failure to learn from your many, many, previous errors.
 
Tom Palven said:
This forum should be about subject matter and not personalities, but if anyone wants to know my opinion of Ellard, go to Skeptic.com, scroll down to General Subjects and down to Economics and then to the Nord Stream Sanctions thread, Friday Nov.06, 7:29 am.

I would just like to nip this in the bud and not have constant ad hominem nonsense here instead of discussing issues.
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:rolleyes:
I rather doubt anyone here cares about your opinion, given your extensive history of credulity and idiocy.
 
carlitos said:
The Miller Park Zoo (Bloomington, IL) just lost a rare snow leopard to COVID.

Maybe library veterans can help the military veterans with they’re apostrophe’s.

Zippo?
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Yes, I saw that. Tragic result of stupid, selfish anti-vaccine nuttery.
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