Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

[Petra]

Who told you Covid RNA can't be identified at an autopsy?

Do you have a paper stating that?

The Science Behind the Test for the COVID-19 Virus / Mayo Clinic Research Magazine
https://discoverysedge.mayo.edu/2020/03/27/the-science-behind-the-test-for-the-covid-19-virus/

I didn't say it couldn't but we can leave dead people out of it and focus only on the cases of living and breathing people - in those people there is no way to identify covid without a test just as now lots of people get colds and similar respiratory illnesses without a test and they deem themselves to have a cold or whatever. Sometimes, they might think that whatever they're suffering is something the likes of which they've never had before and so they may self-diagnose covid but in general people would think they have a cold or similar. I've been sick since covid started and my sickness was just the kind of thing I had before. A friend got very sick with the flu in 2019 - the first time she'd ever had the flu - and took herself to hospital. No doubt, if she'd gotten the flu in covid times she would have self-diagnosed covid simply because she felt sicker than she'd ever felt before, however, pre-covid she was diagnosed with the flu ... just like over 310,000 other people in Australia in 2019 ... and so fewer a number of people in 2020. Now I wonder why that would be? Why would the flu numbers drop like that? Hmmmm.

 

[Petra]

Indeed, experts can disagree a lot! I see it in my realm (computers): vi vs. emacs flame wars are legendary. But what you don't see is one camp stating outright that either vi or emacs simply don't exist. That's what you're doing here: quoting a small number of rather dubious sources that question the mainstream. Again, in areas where I don't have expert level knowledge, I'll go with the mainstream.

So, my question is, where did you earn your M.Sc or or Ph.D. in immunology, and when? If you don't have one, why do you think you're qualified to question the knowledge, expertise, and conclusions of the vast majority of people with this knowledge?

If you look at my post a couple above you'll see a summary of an article that refutes the mainstream science. What you will be able to tell is that a lay person can understand the criticism, you don't have to be a scientist to understand the criticism.

Perhaps it would be good to make a distinction between being a scientist or other kind of expert and being able to MAKE a criticism and being a layperson who might not be able to make the criticism but can understand it.

What you really need to do is actually come to grips with the refutational material and stop sitting in a closed-minded bubble of "only experts published in peer-reviewed papers have any credibility". This is so patently ridiculous.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

I didn't say it couldn't

So if you now agree you can test for Covid at autopsy then you are claiming 900,000 USA citizens have died of Covid and magically no one thought to test it on live people. Wouldn't that be negligent?

but we can leave dead people out of it and focus only on the cases of living and breathing people

....so people died of lung cancer and you think we shouldn't check living people for early indications of lung cancer? You aren't making any sense.

... just like over 310,000 people in Australia in 2019.

Firstly, we test for Covid at autopsy in Australia. Secondly our lockdowns and mask mandates against Covid worked against a virus you claim doesn't exist.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

Why would the flu numbers drop like that? Hmmmm.

Mask mandates and lockdowns also reduce other respiratory diseases. That's why people routinely wear masks in operating theatres since 1935.

 

[Blue Mountain]

(some items snipped)

I'll let others with more time on their hands work on the earlier items in the list. As for the following:

— No clear evidence of origin of RNA used in test

[citation needed]

— Authors of scientific papers claiming isolation of virus admit that purification of virus not actually done and seasoned virologist admits lack of awareness of any paper showing purification of virus

[citation needed]

— No evidence of what is said to be the virus, SARS-CoV-2 causing COVID-19

[citation needed]

— Test results are irrational which would only be expected when the testing method used is against scientific testing protocol

[citation needed]

— The test contains “q” in its name, RT-qPCR, which should stand for quantitative, however, it is admitted the test is qualitative meaning it cannot test viral load which means they cannot test how many viral particles are carried in the body. For people to be considered infected a viral load needs to be determined.

[citation needed]

— High Cycle Quantification (Cq) values undermine validity of test and some PCR tests have high Cq values (Drosten test has 45). The inventor of the test, Kary Mullis, has this to say: “If you have to go more than 40 cycles to amplify a single-copy gene, there is something seriously wrong with your PCR.”

[citation needed]

— Before starting with PCR, in the case of presumed RNA viruses such as SARS-CoV-2, the RNA must be converted to complementary DNA (cDNA) with the enzyme Reverse Transcriptase—hence the “RT” at the beginning of “PCR” or “qPCR,” but this transformation process is “widely recognized as inefficient and variable,”

[citation needed]

I'll let Christopher Hitchens be my guide.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

 

[Resume]

nvm

 

[Blue Mountain]

If you look at my post a couple above you'll see a summary of an article that refutes the mainstream science. What you will be able to tell is that a lay person can understand the criticism, you don't have to be a scientist to understand the criticism.

Said posts is not "an article;" it's a grab bag of miscellaneous quotes, mostly unsourced. You'll need to be more specific.

Perhaps it would be good to make a distinction between being a scientist or other kind of expert and being able to MAKE a criticism and being a layperson who might not be able to make the criticism but can understand it.

But therein lies the problem. Just because someone makes a point you can understand doesn't mean it's accurate. And that goes for both sides of the fence. A layperson's article on, say, quantum mechanics, could be full of both accepted science and a load of bunkum added on. Without good knowledge of QM, I couldn't tell you where the science ends and the quackery starts. So I rely on people who do know QM to tell me that.

We see that a lot of this in the Brilliant Light Power threads (latest one starts here.)

What you really need to do is actually come to grips with the refutational material and stop sitting in a closed-minded bubble of "only experts published in peer-reviewed papers have any credibility". This is so patently ridiculous.

Again, when it comes to areas where I am clearly not an expert, I'm happy to let the mainstream be my guide. A handful of papers being pushed by sites with poor fact-checking records and a tendency toward conspiratorial thinking doesn't cut it.

You have consistently ignored my questions about, for example, journeymen electricians and wiring up 600 volt three phase motors. Why is that? Is it because it's an area where you know you're not qualified, and hence (horrors!) defer to the "mainstream" opinions?

 

[Petra]

Nope, don't believe you. You're being disingenuous.
You clearly think you know enough about this to have formed a conclusion, namely that you believe the fringe scientists who reject the entire field of virology, and disbelieve all the rest.
It is also clear that you can't state your reasons for this. If you don't know, or can't explain, why you have reached a particular conclusion, then it doesn't say much for your claim to have looked at all the evidence and based your conclusion on that, does it?
Do, by all means, prove me wrong. Spell out your factual disagreements with virology. There are scientists on this forum who will be better able than I to examine them.

This is what I'm clear on:
The science put forward for sars-cov-2, covid and a pandemic is fraudulent. There is no evidence of a virus sars-cov-2 and there is no distinctive illness, covid.

Less clear:
Whether viruses exist at all. From what I've seen of the criticism put forward that viruses haven't been PROVEN to exist I think it's compelling but that doesn't mean some pathogen (virus, whatever) causing the illnesses we currently think are caused by viruses doesn't exist - it might just be somehow invisible to us. The "viruses don't exist" rabbit-hole isn't really one I'm ready to venture down at this stage but I do think the criticism of the science of how virology is done is valid, certainly in the case of this pandemic, that is for sure.

How many people choke to death because of a common cold, Petra?
How many people suffer long-term debilitating symptoms from a common cold?
Now, the initial symptoms of both flu and Covid are very similar. No-one is disputing that. This is why testing is so important, because we need to know if those symptoms are just a cold, or whether they are from something more dangerous. That could save someone's life. You understand that, right?
Why, then, would we stop testing? If we don't, then Covid will continue to spread and kill people around the world. Why would we want to do that?

Flu and pneumonia kill people just like the alleged covid.
My point about stopping testing is not to say we should stop (although, of course, I think we should because I don't believe in covid), but to point out that IF WE STOPPED TESTING WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANOTHER WAY TO IDENTIFY COVID. I don't know how I can make myself any clearer than that. I know quite a lot of people who've tested positive for covid (the person who's currently in my house who has no symptoms) and say it was just like a cold or flu, I also know a lot of people who've got sick during covid times and not bothered getting tested and simply described having a run-of-the-mill respiratory illness. Did they have covid? We don't know because they didn't test for it.

Now, the initial symptoms of both flu and Covid are very similar

Where does covid go that flu doesn't - flu and pneumonia kill people, after all? And what about the common cold? A lot of people who test positive say their sickness was simply a fever for a couple of days, sore throat, the usual, just the usual respiratory-type illness.

No. I'm not going to play that game. Your claim, your burden of proof.
You say PCR tests are worthless. OK, prove it.
Can you point me to published, peer-reviewed research that indicates that PCR tests are not accurate or fit for purpose, as you claim?

You don't really understand how heretical ideas are treated in society, do you? Heretical ideas aren't peer-reviewed in reputable journals. What happens with heretical ideas is that we, as individuals, with our 13 years or so of education need to apply our own minds to them. Often, of course, there are experts there to guide us but we need to be mindful that some of the supposed experts while they criticise poor quality science still get it wrong themselves.

I presented a summary in another comment of a criticism of the PCR test that anybody with a reasonable level of intelligence and education can understand. I'm sure you will understand it. If not, let me know and I'll try to explain.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13724459&postcount=2650

Are you aware that many older people suffering co-morbidities die of pneumonia and influenza?
What is your point here?

That people who are very sick are said to have died of covid when they are sick with other things and there is no reason to think that whatever else they were sick with, heart disease, stroke, whatever wasn't what killed them. This is detailed in this article about Italy where the advisor to the Health Minister says that essentially, Italy’s death registration process does not differentiate between those who simply have the virus in their body, and those who are actually killed by it. (Of course, I don't believe in people dying WITH or FROM covid but people who do believe in it can see that what's being put down on death certificates doesn't reflect what has really killed the person.)
https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/05/covid19-death-figures-a-substantial-over-estimate/

Now, as for the rest of this, I'm not going to go any further until you detail, exactly and specifically, what Sam Bailey's claim is.

Sam Bailey shows using the Euromomo figures that excess mortality spikes in Europe and the UK in April 2020 occurred in countries where aggressive drug trials were conducted. One example highlighting this is in neighbouring Portugal and Spain where Spain (aggressive drug trials) experienced a massive spike while Portugal (no drug trials) had an unremarkable spike. I'm not going to watch the video again to see what other examples she used. Just to be clear Spain did participate in the Solidarity drug trials while Portugal did not. I really do recommend watching the video and I will NEVER discuss information from a video with you again unless you agree to watch it.
https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/excess-mortality-what-you-aren-t-being:0

 

[Petra]

I'll let others with more time on their hands work on the earlier items in the list. As for the following:

Oh my goodness. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
Just go to the article and you will see all the citations you need.

https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/

 

[Petra]

Said posts is not "an article;" it's a grab bag of miscellaneous quotes, mostly unsourced. You'll need to be more specific.

I'm not sure what you're referring to. I summarised the article with a link to the article.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/

 

[Petra]

Mask mandates and lockdowns also reduce other respiratory diseases. That's why people routinely wear masks in operating theatres since 1935.

LOL. But the way they respect mask hygiene in operating theatres is worlds away from complete and utter negligence in relation to monitoring and enforcement of hygiene standards with covid masking.

There's no comparison.

Mask wearing is about compliance and control, it has ZERO to do with health. As long as you've got something across your mouth, no matter that you've worn it for weeks and it's showing filth on the mouth-side, you're being COMPLIANT and that's all the authorities care about.

A number of surgeons also state that masks don't work against viruses.
https://www.villagenews.com/story/2...ont-work-why-do-surgeons-wear-them/65949.html

 

[Petra]

So if you now agree you can test for Covid at autopsy then you are claiming 900,000 USA citizens have died of Covid and magically no one thought to test it on live people. Wouldn't that be negligent?

I can't seem to get through to you. What I pose is a hypothetical - it is not advice, it is a hypothetical proposition. If testing stopped, there would be no way to determine whether someone had covid or just a cold, the flu, pneumonia or whatever.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

This is what I'm clear on: There is no evidence of a virus sars-cov-2

So, you claim, the vaccines specific to Sars-cov-2 virus, developed by the USA, UK, Russia, China and so on, don't really exist as there is no such virus and these countries are simply conspiring together for an unknown purpose, while simultaneously all the same countries have experienced a rapid increase in a respiratory disease, that is less fatal if the victims are vaccinated by the vaccinations you claim don't exist.

Even more fascinating, you are by implication claiming a conspiracy of USA, UK, German, Australian and many other countries sewerage workers are not really testing for specific Covid-19 RNA fragments in sewerage for some other international conspiracy.

What is your hypothesis for purpose of this massive international conspiracy between sewerage workers, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies and coroners, that includes Russia, China, the USA, the UK and most other countries, including those at war?

Additionally, would you like to see a March 2020 transmission electron microscope's photo of the Sars-Cov-2 that you claim doesn't exist?

 

[Petra]

What was his opinion on the covid pandemic and vaccines? Do you know?

Kary Mullis died of pneumonia at the age of 74 in October 2019 shortly before the advent of covid. Kary didn't see the PCR as a diagnostic tool but as a tool for what it was invented - to multiply strands of DNA. Of course, tools can be used for things other than what they were invented for but he said himself:
https://odysee.com/@yellowgenius:0/...y-Mullis--It-doesn't-tell-you-you're-sick-.:4 (1m42s)

"PCR doesn't tell you that you're sick."

Interestingly, in this fact check they say the quote is tied to HIV not covid. No it isn't tied to HIV, regardless of whether he was speaking about HIV at the time there is nothing to suggest that he isn't making the statement as a general statement.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...-pcr-tests-outdated-lacks-context/9198197002/

I don't know what he thought about vaccines.

 

[Bubba]

Asking if agents provocateur carried flags among the truckers caused a stir... Should I apologize?

Since we all know by now that such tricksters are always a possibility...(recent example of similar players being the fake racist white supremacists showing up with torches at a Youngkin event, pretending to support him) ...I thought actual skeptics would naturally agree we dont actually know who carried the offensive flags.


Instead, we see "Defending racists", which is nonsense. Instead of apologizing, maybe I should be thanked for facilitating a lame abusive tirade, with its latest neurological payoff.

Equating a known (and possibly deployed) practice of inserting agents provocateur with 'annunaki reptilian' nonsense was a great pseudo *flag* to fly, in itself. Revealing. Good job!


BTW I did not see any pics or footage of the flag carriers.

 

[Bubba]

For that matter it wouldn't have been at all difficult for Bubba or CE to have said, "That's unfortunate, but they don't speak for me. Just because we share one belief doesn't mean that we share all beliefs". That certainly would have been more reasonable than invoking paranoid fantasies about sinister plots.

How revealing of you to say that, when the fake racists at the Youngkin event are merely the most recent proof.

Years ago I saw footage of a peaceful protest (IIRC it was in Quebec) where two guys joined the march with rocks in their hands as the march reached the police line. Some protesters pointed and shouted "They have rocks, stop them". The protestors tackled them and took them down. The two guys crawled toward the police line, which opened for them. As they disappeared among the police, a protestor pointed out that the two guys wore boots identical to boots the police were wearing.


"...invoking paranoid fantasies about sinister plots" .....Really.?


But I would understand your reaction, if the 'agent provocateur' thing is a new concept for you. I recall often seeing the same reaction from others unaware of it, when the possibility is mentioned. It still happens today.


As an example of general ignorance of such deception practices.........Just about a week ago, I noticed some of the MSM was explaining "false flag attack" to their audiences, after mentioning FFA on air regarding Putin and Ukraine. So dont feel bad if you are just now learning about agents provocateur.

I forgive you for your condescending comment.

 

[beachnut]

...
https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/05/covid19-death-figures-a-substantial-over-estimate/ ...

OOPS, Off Guardian a mighty conspiracy website, how did you find it, and are you pretending to be a conspiracy theorist, or are you a conspiracy theorist?

Double OOPS... Off Guardian is an intense pseudoscience website, and you like it because it promotes unproven conspiracy theories and false information regarding the Coronavirus. You won, you found the dumbest web site for the virus.

BTW, actually deaths from Corona Virus are higher than reported, and you don't care why, or are able to figure out why - because you prefer misinformation about the pandemic.

Cluelessly spreading BS

Good news, you are in the correct sub-forum, where you can post the most idiotic conspiracy theories, and be on topic.

 

[Nick Terry]

My friend shows no symptoms.
My friend is effectively under house arrest for 7 days.
My friend had to pay $150 for the first PCR test and $150 for the test she did this morning, 7 days later.

I call this absurdity but if you don't think it's absurd then so be it.

It's absurd if your friend is paying $300 for two tests, if there's a legal requirement to self-isolate after testing positive.

The principle of self-isolation after testing positive is not absurd, but Omicron's behaviour with rapid tests vs PCR tests, especially if the patient has been vaccinated or previously was infected, seems to be producing weirdnesses like your friend's story of symptoms before a positive test then none thereafter.

This pandemic is not just about "scientific evidence", there is masses of propaganda pushed out 24/7. It's even admitted by 'ol Jassy, NZ PM.
https://odysee.com/@scamdemic:7d/jacindaadern:7 (31 seconds)

I stick to pandemic narrative, it's certainly not just about science.

There's no singular 'pandemic narrative' because there are multiple countries in the world who have had different experiences and react in different ways. There are pandemic narratives in NZ, China, South Korea, South Africa, France, the UK, and the 50 states of the US plus the federal government.

The 'narrative' about coronavirus emanating from the Governor of Florida in 2021-2022 is quite different to the 'narrative' in other states as well as from many local authorities inside Florida, with different 'narratives' from education systems as well as healthcare providers.

'Propaganda' is a weasel term that ignores the massive differences of opinion reflected in these 'narratives'. But it also annihilates the difference between opinion/interpretation/spin and gathering data or doing basic reporting. 'The media' is not a monolith, nor is it identical with the medical research communities whose findings are reported (inconsistently) in the media.

Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR technique fraudulently being used to test for infection by a virus, said:
"The scientist aims to prove their hypothesis wrong."

That's what I do.

I have put my case for this pandemic being a fraud from a number of different angles. Will you look at it or not? I'm rather tired of arguing on this thread with everyone so unwilling to actually look at information presented. I've spent quite a bit of time on my page and I think it's all laid out quite clearly. Please have a look, just a little look, and at the first sign of something you don't like come back to me.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/blog/coronavirus-hoax-jan-2020

Yeah, no. The 'global elite' had no incentive to engineer a false pandemic costing hundreds of billions of dollars, pounds, euros per major country due to the economic heart attack of the spring 2020 shutdown.

There were demonstrable differences in the initial and subsequent reactions of national leaders, their political advisors and their scientific advisors at the start of the pandemic, and these have continued through to the present.

Your theory has to account for why Boris Johnson was slow to react to advice coming from scientific advisors in the UK, and why Dominic Cummings, his then trusted advisor, reacted with a greater sense of urgency to the briefings by scientists. The same for the Donald Trump White House and federal administration versus the 50 state governments, and the EU member states.

Hospitals filled up quite rapidly in hotspots during that initial wave - there was a shortage of tests, but that was a visible metric. What were people dying of in Italy, Spain and New York, then in London, in March-April 2020? This was too big to be faked with 'crisis actors'.

Besides, the original outbreak in Wuhan triggered an even more vigorous reaction from the Chinese authorities months earlier, with total lockdowns and quarantines sharper than anything seen in the west, instant hospitals being built in days/weeks, and huge loss of face from the too-little-too-late travel bans.

I'm a historian who doesn't live in the US, so I'm not going to take anything seriously which doesn't take into account chronology and geography - what has happened across the world since the start of 2020.

 

[Petra]

So, you claim, the vaccines specific to Sars-cov-2 virus, developed by the USA, UK, Russia, China and so on, don't really exist as there is no such virus and these countries are simply conspiring together for an unknown purpose, while simultaneously all the same countries have experienced a rapid increase in a respiratory disease, that is less fatal if the victims are vaccinated by the vaccinations you claim don't exist.

Even more fascinating, you are by implication claiming a conspiracy of USA, UK, German, Australian and many other countries sewerage workers are not really testing for specific Covid-19 RNA fragments in sewerage for some other international conspiracy.

What is your hypothesis for purpose of this massive international conspiracy between sewerage workers, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies and coroners, that includes Russia, China, the USA, the UK and most other countries, including those at war?

Additionally, would you like to see a March 2020 transmission electron microscope's photo of the Sars-Cov-2 that you claim doesn't exist?

You missed my post showing how mortality for vaxed/unvaxed is lying? In fact, the fact that the figures really show that the vax is killing people and the way in which the data lies about that fact is criminal in the extreme. A massive crime against humanity is going on right under our noses and people defend the "science" for that crime.

https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/02/04/covid-vaccines-death-rates-higher-than-reported

How the figures lie: the status of "vaccinated" is only applied 14 days after the second jab so all those dying from the first jab until 14 days after the second jab are considered "unvaccinated". This kind of fraudulence is seen everywhere in this pandemic and everyone just turns a blind eye.

How the fraud was picked up: a professor noticed there seemed to be "waves" of high mortality in the unvaxed over a time period which seemed strange. So he worked out that the waves corresponded with the roll-out by demographic of the vaccine. The roll-out started with the older demographic and then rolled-out to the next age group and so on. Shortly after the roll-out for each demographic mortality increased, indicating the vaccine was responsible.

 

[Petra]

It's absurd if your friend is paying $300 for two tests, if there's a legal requirement to self-isolate after testing positive.

The principle of self-isolation after testing positive is not absurd, but Omicron's behaviour with rapid tests vs PCR tests, especially if the patient has been vaccinated or previously was infected, seems to be producing weirdnesses like your friend's story of symptoms before a positive test then none thereafter.

You are entitled to believe whatever aspect you think is absurd, Nick, I think everything about the situation is absurd. Of course, I don't believe in the virus, its alleged variants, I believe in nothing of this pandemic, however, even if I did I'd think it absurd that someone who is perfectly well is kept under house arrest for 7 days for testing positive for an illness she shows no signs of ... and was obliged to pay the money I stated.

There's no singular 'pandemic narrative' because there are multiple countries in the world who have had different experiences and react in different ways. There are pandemic narratives in NZ, China, South Korea, South Africa, France, the UK, and the 50 states of the US plus the federal government.

The 'narrative' about coronavirus emanating from the Governor of Florida in 2021-2022 is quite different to the 'narrative' in other states as well as from many local authorities inside Florida, with different 'narratives' from education systems as well as healthcare providers.

No doubt there are differences in the narrative, I pay little attention. The main narrative is that there is a pandemic of a dangerous respiratory illness out there against which extreme measures need to be taken that seem to chop and change all the time. Some states go all out while others are more relaxed.

'Propaganda' is a weasel term that ignores the massive differences of opinion reflected in these 'narratives'. But it also annihilates the difference between opinion/interpretation/spin and gathering data or doing basic reporting. 'The media' is not a monolith, nor is it identical with the medical research communities whose findings are reported (inconsistently) in the media.

What I really mean by propaganda is lies. This alleged pandemic is a big, fat lie.

Yeah, no. The 'global elite' had no incentive to engineer a false pandemic costing hundreds of billions of dollars, pounds, euros per major country due to the economic heart attack of the spring 2020 shutdown.

I'm not good on agendas but what I do know is that the science put forward for a pandemic is fraudulent and I see no signs myself of anything even remotely to worry about except ... all the bogus measures and propaganda.

Your theory has to account for why Boris Johnson was slow to react to advice coming from scientific advisors in the UK, and why Dominic Cummings, his then trusted advisor, reacted with a greater sense of urgency to the briefings by scientists. The same for the Donald Trump White House and federal administration versus the 50 state governments, and the EU member states.

No, it doesn't, if the exposure of scientific fraud stands strong - which it does - there is no need to explain seeming irrational behaviour from those in power.

Hospitals filled up quite rapidly in hotspots during that initial wave - there was a shortage of tests, but that was a visible metric. What were people dying of in Italy, Spain and New York, then in London, in March-April 2020? This was too big to be faked with 'crisis actors'.

This is what we were told.

A friend sent me a link to an article published by the ABC about an Australian nurse, Anne Elliott, who’d returned from working during COVID in the UK at the Chelsea and Westminster Hospital. Despite constant presentation of evidence that it’s a scam my friend still believes the official narrative and thought the article supported “real” pandemic. It’s a complete story, no particular evidence to back it up – it’s amazing how “story” supposedly favours real. The alien-looking image of someone in heavy-duty face mask headlining the story is quite scary.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-31/how-covid-delta-kills-patients-virus/100335290

“We were completely blind-sided by the scale of it,” says Elliott who worked with critically ill COVID patients in the hospital’s intensive care unit. “We had no PPE. We had cardboard walls with duct tape to corner off sections of the emergency and ICU to COVID patients. It took us completely by surprise.”

Poor Anne now lives with “very, very prominent post-traumatic stress disorder.”

So I searched for Chelsea and Westminster on YouTube to see if they showed any hospital scenes and guess what I found: all happy and relaxed-looking dancing nurses and doctors with the slogan across the film at one point “waiting for patient.”
https://youtu.be/3DYkNMz7hF0

How do you reconcile Anne Elliott's story (I point out Anne Elliott is the name of the protagonist of Jane Austen's Persuasian) with the relaxed and happy dancing ICU staff?

I'm a historian who doesn't live in the US, so I'm not going to take anything seriously which doesn't take into account chronology and geography - what has happened across the world since the start of 2020.

Fair enough, Nick. I just see the lies.