Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

[W.D.Clinger]

Based on the article the authors seem to be using the same faulty reasoning as you, i.e. thinking conclusions can be reached based on absolute numbers of reports. I'll wait for actual evidence before accepting such dubiously derived estimates.

Did you actually read the report? It was an extensive inquiry into the VAERS reports. Maybe you can voice your specific objections.

Pixel42 summarized the report accurately.

You do realize that in Jan 2022, even CNN admits that cloth masks fail to prevent viral infection, right? I’m assuming you live in the US like I do.

Tippit continues to make that claim. As stated in the study Tippit has been citing in support of his claim:

Infection with SARS-CoV-2 occurred in 42 participants recommended masks (1.8%) and 53 control participants (2.1%).

In other words, the subjects who did not wear masks were infected at a slightly higher rate than subjects who wore masks. It should not be necessary to explain that only an idiot would interpret that result as evidence that masks offer no protection at all, but here we are.

As stated explicitly by the report Tippit has been citing, there was

...no assessment of whether masks could decrease disease transmission from mask wearers to others.

Every competent individual who has been following the mask debates is aware that the primary purpose of wearing a mask is to avoid infecting others. Wearing a mask probably offers some protection for the wearer as well, but that is generally believed to be less important.

The study does support the idea that the masks worn by those who participated in that study probably provided only a small amount of protection to those who wore the masks, but the study was just too small to conclude that the small protective effect of masks seen in the study is statistically significant.

The study was large enough to conclude, with 95% confidence, that the added protection afforded to the wearer of a mask, "in a community with modest infection rates, some degree of social distancing, and uncommon general mask use", was not large enough to reduce the risk of infection among wearers by more than 50%. "The data were compatible with lesser degrees of self-protection."

Tippit continues to misrepresent those results. It may be unclear whether Tippit is lying about the report he continues to cite, or is simply unable to understand the plain English of that report, but he is clearly misrepresenting the conclusions of that report.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Fox. "News" is part of the problem.

See how you assumed too much about me..?

Good. So you won't be quoting from Fox News now either, then.
Now, how about this one?

Here is a list of CNN's leadership.

Please indicate which one you claim is on the board of a pharmaceutical company.

https://edition.cnn.com/specials/more/cnn-leadership

Furthermore, as part of your drive for intellectual sophistication, perhaps you could show examples of stories criticising pharmaceutical companies that have been delayed or suppressed by 'mainstream' media sources?

 

[Steve]

Furthermore, as part of your drive for intellectual sophistication, perhaps you could show examples of stories criticising pharmaceutical companies that have been delayed or suppressed by 'mainstream' media sources?

How can bubba do that? They have been suppressed so neither he, nor anyone else, has never seen them! He knows that they exist nonetheless.

 

[carlitos]

URL="https://www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/ ... ]Sen. Johnson

I suggest that pharma had better keep it's death grip on the media, if it doesn't want it's leadership swinging from lampposts.

Fascist fever dreams, brought to you by Covid-19 conspiracy theorists and the apostrophe. Wonderful. For those unfamiliar with the Turner Diaries "day of the rope," this meme has found new life with the Q people.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Fascist fever dreams, brought to you by Covid-19 conspiracy theorists and the apostrophe.

The improper use of the contraction in place of the possessive pronoun is quite funny considering Tippit's previous implication that someone who had misspelled his pseudonym might be displaying cognitive impaiment.

Wonderful. For those unfamiliar with the Turner Diaries "day of the rope," this meme has found new life with the Q people.

That's certainly consistent with Tippit's previous statements about how it would be just terrible if he was forced to rise up and start hurting people.

 

[Tippit]

Whatever CNN said with regard to the effectiveness of masks against Covid is not relevant. This particular flyer makes reference to oxygen deprivation, CO² poisoning, bacterial infection and psychological damage as a result of wearing masks and tries to add legitimacy by including the logos of various medical institutions on the flyer.

The NIHR, BPS and NHS sites appear to directly contradict the info in the image. The NSPCC make no mention at all about any of this. What the NCRI - cancer research centre - has to do with it, I don't know. Unicef does directly contradict it.

On the face of it, I'd say the flyer is nonsense.

I know that hypercarbia is real from an ICU nurse, which is why actual respirators that prevent viral infection cannot be worn for more than a few hours at a time (N95, N100, KN95, et al.)

Given that cloth masks are a joke when it comes to preventing viral infection, as most of the informed world has woken up to, they probably have much less risk of hypercarbia and some of those other risks than masks that actually do prevent viral infection, for the same reasons why they're ineffective at preventing viral infection.

 

[Resume]

Fascist fever dreams, brought to you by Covid-19 conspiracy theorists and the apostrophe. Wonderful. For those unfamiliar with the Turner Diaries "day of the rope," this meme has found new life with the Q people.

That's certainly consistent with Tippit's previous statements about how it would be just terrible if he was forced to rise up and start hurting people.

What an ironic flex from a poster that's frightened of masks and iddy-biddy widdle needles.

 

[Resume]

<disinformationsnip>

There, better.

 

[Resume]

. . . gene therapy .

Demonstrably nope.

You'd think that the smartest person I'm ever likely to encounter would stop reposting debunked bull ****, but no

Say, you don't think they're telling fibs about their big brain also?

 

[abaddon]

I know that hypercarbia is real from an ICU nurse,

You did not need to harass a nurse, I could have told you that. Google could have told you that. An onion in the field could have told you that.

But no. You had to harass an ICU nurse. Are you really this inept?

 

[Childlike Empress]

Demonstrably nope.

You'd think that the smartest person I'm ever likely to encounter would stop reposting debunked bull ****, but no

Say, you don't think they're telling fibs about their big brain also?

The CEO of Bayer? Nope. Like arthwollipot you aren't even aware of what Bayer is. The cornerstone of Big Pharma since the 19th century, part of IG Farben during the Nazi time, now since a couple of years owner of Monsanto - this guy Oelrich is not kidding around. You are unlikely to ever encounter him so you have to stick with me.

(edit: the link again for the feeble minded: https://youtu.be/OJFKBritLlc?t=5844)

Again, what you can hear there is not meant for our consumption. It is their game, and your denial changes nothing about it.

 

[Resume]

<paranoid disinformationsnip>

As demonstrated on numerous occasions, COVID vaccines aren't gene therapy because they do no alter genes; they are composed of genetic material, which disinformationists exploit in their attempts to disinform.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Live coverage from the German street protests:

 

[Steve]

As demonstrated on numerous occasions, COVID vaccines aren't gene therapy because they do no alter genes; they are composed of genetic material, which disinformationists exploit in their attempts to disinform.

Strangely enough there is a lot of genetic material in food. Anti-vaxxers don't seem to mind that too much.

 

[Resume]

You know, I've learnt as much from your precis' of Tibbitts posts as I've learned from Tibbitts actual posts.

Thanks for that, from here on in I can save myself a fair bit of time...

Well, if a poster continues to re-post debunked arguments, and appears to be nothing more that a deliberate disinformationist, as several posters appear to be, I am not moved to quote their disinformation.

 

[Childlike Empress]

For the historically-impaired, the "Monday demonstrations" were what brought the GDR down. At the peak, there were 220 thousand protesters concentrated in Leipzig. Last monday, official numbers counted around 380 thousand protesters in over a thousand of cities/town/villages all over the country. Stay tuned, we are rocking this.

 

[Resume]

. Stay tuned, we are rocking this.

Misinformed protesters rocking something or other seems an odd flex.

Boy, I'm becoming a bit skeptical that you're the smartest person I'm ever likely to encounter. In what scientific discipline were you employed?

 

[EaglePuncher]

For the historically-impaired, the "Monday demonstrations" were what brought the GDR down. At the peak, there were 220 thousand protesters concentrated in Leipzig. Last monday, official numbers counted around 380 thousand protesters in over a thousand of cities/town/villages all over the country. Stay tuned, we are rocking this.

Evidence?

(Of course, there won't be any, but as a German resident: There were not "380 thousand protesters in over a thousand of cities/town/villages all over the country."

C.E. is just doing her favourite thing: Lying)

 

[Resume]

Evidence?

(Of course, there won't be any, but as a German resident: There were not "380 thousand protesters in over a thousand of cities/town/villages all over the country. C.E. is just doing her favourite thing: Lying)

No, say it's not so.

 

[carlitos]

As demonstrated on numerous occasions, COVID vaccines aren't gene therapy because they do no alter genes; they are composed of genetic material, which disinformationists exploit in their attempts to disinform.

The CEO guy certainly said that these vaccines have made / might make the public more receptive to gene therapies. But the conspiracy argument is tough to understand, because it's acting like this public information is secret knowledge being revealed?

• IG Farben / Bayer / Monsanto have produced Zykon-B, heroin, Round-Up weed killer and components for Agent Orange.
• Their CEO says that the mRNA vaccines for Covid might help public acceptance of gene therapies.
• He says this during the opening remarks at the WORLD HEALTH SUMMIT 2021 and the video is widely available, but it's "not meant for our consumption."

I can only guess that this is the Alex Jones-type comic book villain logic that requires the evildoers to reveal their plans as some part of cosmic law. Or maybe something to do with predictive programming?