DIY experiment proving graviton is a particle

[philippeb8]

Wait, you get different readings facing something other than the horizon?

Yes the ground noise is lesser than the horizon noise.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

What is it with 'physics renewers' and their hatred for General relativity?

Anyway, how does your theory explain observed phenomena like time dilation and gravitational waves?

 

[philippeb8]

What is it with 'physics renewers' and their hatred for General relativity?

Anyway, how does your theory explain observed phenomena like time dilation and gravitational waves?

Why challenging Einstein implies we hate him? In my case I guess I also hate Newton because I am challenging him.

Gravitational and kinetic time dilation are the core of Finite Theory and I can explain the entire universe based on that. Time is also a form of energy, not a "dimension".

 

[catsmate]

What is it with 'physics renewers' and their hatred for General relativity?

It's too complicated for them to understand.

 

[philippeb8]

It's too complicated for them to understand.

Well yeah, it's complicated because it's wrong.

But what you call "complicated" really is: the stress-energy-pressure tensors (linear algebra) and the spin-1 and 2 human-made mathematical framework. Next.

 

[Steve]

What is it with 'physics renewers' and their hatred for General relativity?

Anyway, how does your theory explain observed phenomena like time dilation and gravitational waves?

Overturning relativity is the holy grail of physics crankery. Any physics crank worthy of the name expects to have their name prominently displayed at the top of the list of all time great scientists once they complete this amazing accomplishment. And trying to convince all us experts here in this backwoods corner of the internet is an integral step in the process.

 

[Steve]

What is it with 'physics renewers' and their hatred for General relativity?

Anyway, how does your theory explain observed phenomena like time dilation and gravitational waves?

Why challenging Einstein implies we hate him? In my case I guess I also hate Newton because I am challenging him.

Gravitational and kinetic time dilation are the core of Finite Theory and I can explain the entire universe based on that. Time is also a form of energy, not a "dimension".

One of these things is not like the other.

 

[philippeb8]

Overturning relativity is the holy grail of physics crankery. Any physics crank worthy of the name expects to have their name prominently displayed at the top of the list of all time great scientists once they complete this amazing accomplishment. And trying to convince all us experts here in this backwoods corner of the internet is an integral step in the process.

I'm explaining in great details here the usage of your special terms:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=356558

I will not reiterate again.

 

[philippeb8]

Ok so here's the deal:

1) The Sun's tidal ratio on Earth is: 1.00017
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tide.html

2) I will measure the standard deviation of the gravitational pull tonight at exactly 8:30 pm EST;

3) If I don't get exactly 3.8e-6 g / 1.00017 = 3.799354109801333e-6 g then you are all wrong.

Ok enough babbling. Your little castle of cards will break down tonight at 8:30 pm EST.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Well yeah, it's complicated because it's wrong.

But what you call "complicated" really is: the stress-energy-pressure tensors (linear algebra) and the spin-1 and 2 human-made mathematical framework. Next.

If it's wrong, why does it work?

 

[Steve]

I'm explaining in great details here the usage of your special terms:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=356558

I will not reiterate again.

You are very fond of talking (well, writing) and very reluctant to do the actual work. Why not just go away and do some real work until you have published the evidence required to confirm your claims? Then you can come back here and post your "I told you so". Until such time your words are just words.

 

[philippeb8]

If it's wrong, why does it work?

What works?
- I proved the light bending and perihelion precession can be explained without the "spacetime curvature";
- GR cannot explain the galactic rotation curve
- GR cannot explain the expansion of the universe
- GR cannot even explain the gravitational redshift without breaking the conservation of the energy
- Same thing for the "inflating" universe
- GR predicts nonsense like wormholes (please don't bring the: "if it wasn't detected it doesn't mean it's wrong" argument)

 

[philippeb8]

You are very fond of talking (well, writing) and very reluctant to do the actual work. Why not just go away and do some real work until you have published the evidence required to confirm your claims? Then you can come back here and post your "I told you so". Until such time your words are just words.

Just wait 7 hours and 14 minutes. Thanks.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Just wait 7 hours and 14 minutes. Thanks.

Then what? you show us the noise on your iPhone app again?

 

[Steve]

Just wait 7 hours and 14 minutes. Thanks.

You will be published in just over 7 hours? Fascinating.

 

[philippeb8]

Then what? you show us the noise on your iPhone app again?

No I just wanna measure the order of magnitude of the standard deviation of the noise and see if it's lesser than what the Sun's tidal effect calculation predicts.

If it is lesser then my gravitational shield experiment is successful, and it'll overturn a 100 years of disinformation and propaganda by itself.

 

[hecd2]

Fed up with words I checked my iPhone on a concrete slab directly on the ground. The accelerometer noise is of the order of +/-3 parts in a thousand (so stable to about 1 part in a 100 or 0.01g) and the absolute difference in vertical g measurement between two iPhones is about the same. So the noise is 20,000 times greater than the signal (Sun’s tidal force at the Earth) that you are attempting to detect a change in.

 

[Steve]

Fed up with words I checked my iPhone on a concrete slab directly on the ground. The accelerometer noise is of the order of +/-3 parts in a thousand (so stable to about 1 part in a 100 or 0.01g) and the absolute difference in vertical g measurement between two iPhones is about the same. So the noise is 20,000 times greater than the signal (Sun’s tidal force at the Earth) that you are attempting to detect a change in.

Betcha in just under 7 hours philippeb8 comes back with entirely different results, or with a fringe reset, or with more irrelevant words, or does not come back at all.

 

[philippeb8]

Ok so here's the deal:

1) The Sun's tidal ratio on Earth is: 1.00017
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tide.html

2) I will measure the standard deviation of the gravitational pull tonight at exactly 8:30 pm EST;

3) If I don't get exactly 3.8e-6 g / 1.00017 = 3.799354109801333e-6 g then you are all wrong.

Correction:

I just measured the ground noise right now for 172 seconds at 8:30 am EST and I get a standard deviation of: 3.8e-6 g.

Ok so here's the deal:

1) The Sun's tidal ratio on Earth is: 1.00017
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tide.html

2) I will measure the standard deviation of the gravitational pull tonight at exactly 8:30 pm EST;

3) Sun's g: G*1.9885e30/(1496e8^2)/9.8 = 6e-4 g

4) If I get lesser than 3.8e-6 g / 1.00017 + 6e-4 g = 6.037993541098013e-4 g then I am right and it proves your GR is a longstanding hoax.

Period.

 

[Andy_Ross]

How can you measure something that is far less than the device you are using is capable of?