Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

[Tippit]

Are you claiming that you learned those numbers from USA Today ? That's your story? You didn't crib those figures from Alex Jones or whatever cesspool of misinformation that you normally consume?

Is this where you pivot into personal attacks?

 

[Resume]

Is this where you pivot into personal attacks?

What personal attack?

 

[porch]

I plan to start a new thread tomorrow when I have more time and energy because it's not my intent to hijack this thread. . . . .

As for what am I trying to do, I want to have an evidence based discussion on the evidence for or not for ivermectin.. . ..

I look forward to this in the clear light of day.

 

[Paul2]

If someone dies of breast cancer treatment, and their cause of death is marked breast cancer, time doesn't solve that problem.

I see your point. So do you have evidence that the cause of death is being recorded as the disease when it should be recorded as the treatment (beyond the background error rate)? And for what disease/treatment?

 

[MBDK]

You got 240 million in Uttar Pradesh getting boxes of this stuff:

While you continue to harp on RCTs, of which we have several dozen all showing benefit, we also have an entire Indian state wiping out COVID deaths after handing out those COVID kits to everyone.

Cherry-picking, with a particularly unreliable reference, is your main bag of tricks:
https://gidmk.medium.com/ivermectin-didnt-save-uttar-pradesh-from-covid-19-17684f49d8b3

don't get me wrong

From what I have seen, you have made no correct claims, ergo, there's nothing "right" to ever get wrong.

ETA: Oops. I hadn't read far enough to see that my link was already posted. I am still happy with part 2 of my post.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Is this where you pivot into personal attacks?

Your pearl clutching indignation might ring less hollow if you hadn't accused others of suffering from brain damage and learning disabilities for misspelling your pseudonym.

 

[Tippit]

I see your point. So do you have evidence that the cause of death is being recorded as the disease when it should be recorded as the treatment (beyond the background error rate)? And for what disease/treatment?

There is a lot of circumstantial evidence for a lot of things already covered, but none as far as I know that is likely to convince someone of your persuasion.

Can you explain the discrepancy in per capita covid mortality rates that places the US in the top 20 in the world, despite having world class healthcare?


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[Steve]

There is a lot of circumstantial evidence for a lot of things already covered, but none as far as I know that is likely to convince someone of your persuasion.

Can you explain the discrepancy in per capita covid mortality rates that places the US in the top 20 in the world, despite having world class healthcare?


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Yes I can. Good healthcare in the USA is only for the wealthy who can afford it.

 

[arthwollipot]

Why is it that your first instinct is to attack the character of people who have differing views?

I'm not attacking anyone's character, I'm providing a link to an article on Wikipedia which itself provides verified information.

Why is it that your first instinct is to assume that telling the truth is an attack?

 

[eerok]

I'm not attacking anyone's character, I'm providing a link to an article on Wikipedia which itself provides verified information.

Why is it that your first instinct is to assume that telling the truth is an attack?

Unfortunately, some people find reality offensive. That's no one's fault but their own, though.

 

[arthwollipot]

Remdeathisnear

Oh, that's a good one!

 

[W.D.Clinger]

The population of the US is 334M versus the world's 7.9B, or only 4.23%. How would you attempt to explain this discrepancy in per-capita Covid mortality? Obviously the US population is one of the most obese and least healthy in the world, with lots of co-morbidities, but the gulf in "Covid deaths" cannot be explained by this alone. Hmmm....... perhaps Covid deaths in the US are grossly overstated for a variety of "reasons".

Can you explain the discrepancy in per capita covid mortality rates that places the US in the top 20 in the world, despite having world class healthcare?

Freedom of speech. Post-truth culture ("an assertion of ideological supremacy by which its practitioners try to compel someone to believe something regardless of the evidence"). The rise of willful stupidity as a marker of political identity. Financial incentives rewarding grifters who exploit the proudly gullible.

It's a deadly combination.

 

[eerok]

Freedom of speech. Post-truth culture ("an assertion of ideological supremacy by which its practitioners try to compel someone to believe something regardless of the evidence"). The rise of willful stupidity as a marker of political identity. Financial incentives rewarding grifters who exploit the proudly gullible.

It's a deadly combination.

This is a remarkably concise and accurate analysis. I'd congratulate you more if I didn't find it somewhat depressing.

 

[Tippit]

Freedom of speech. Post-truth culture ("an assertion of ideological supremacy by which its practitioners try to compel someone to believe something regardless of the evidence"). The rise of willful stupidity as a marker of political identity. Financial incentives rewarding grifters who exploit the proudly gullible.

It's a deadly combination.

You mean, the freedom of speech that doesn't exist on the platforms owned by the largest corporations in the world? The one way top-down "freedom of speech" enjoyed by Dr. Anthony Fauci, who is directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people by panning early effective treatments for Covid, in favor of toxic experimental gene therapies that he has a direct financial conflict of interest in as a shareholder, and/or once hospitalized, "treatment" with expensive protocols that are effective only at monetizing the patients they are killing? The "post-truth" culture promoted by lying, propagandizing media and government? The financial incentives provided by Medicare to hospitals for Covid deaths, and ventilator usage that I just documented only a few posts up?

Yeah, no. Your explanation is rejected.

The discrepancy in per capita Covid mortality in the US is explained by the simple fact that the "vaccines" coupled with the gross negligence and malpractice by hospitals is literally killing people and then naming the cause of death Covid, and where it is not, every death with Covid is statistically misrepresented as a death by Covid.

 

[Tippit]

In other news, Spotify will honor Neil Young's childishly Orwellian ultimatum by removing his music. Tens of fans are now crushed.

Spotify says it will grant Young's request to remove music

What will this geriatric Freddy Krueger look-a-like do next?

 

[arthwollipot]

Remind me what Neil Young has to do with the New World Order?

 

[Resume]

You mean, the freedom of speech that doesn't exist on the platforms owned by the largest corporations in the world?

Private platforms have no obligation to promote dangerous disinformation.

The one way top-down "freedom of speech" enjoyed by Dr. Anthony Fauci, who is directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people by panning early effective treatments for Covid . . .

Dangerous disinformation.

. . . toxic experimental gene therapies

Lie.

that he has a direct financial conflict of interest in as a shareholder, and/or once hospitalized, "treatment" with expensive protocols that are effective only at monetizing the patients they are killing?

Disinformation.

The "post-truth" culture promoted by lying, propagandizing media and government? The financial incentives provided by Medicare to hospitals for Covid deaths, and ventilator usage that I just documented only a few posts up?

The part of that article you conveniently forgot to mention.

Ask FactCheck's conclusion: "Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting."

Yeah, no. Your explanation is rejected.

Yeah, no, your disinformation and lies are debunked, discredited and dismissed.

The discrepancy in per capita Covid mortality in the US is explained by the simple fact that the "vaccines" coupled with the gross negligence and malpractice by hospitals is literally killing people, and where it is not, every death with Covid is statistically misrepresented as a death by Covid.

More dangerous disinformation that has been debunked, discredited and dismissed.

 

[Resume]

In other news, Spotify will honor Neil Young's childishly Orwellian ultimatum by removing his music.

As he requested so he wouldn't share the platform with the credulous cement-headed disinformationist Joe Rogan.

 

[Tippit]

Remind me what Neil Young has to do with the New World Order?

Probably not much at all. He's just some virtue-signaling old ******* who doesn't think freedom of speech concerning the issues surrounding a not-fully understood virus is important, and would prefer that only the bleating voice of a tyrannical government be heard.

 

[Resume]

Probably not much at all. He's just some virtue-signaling old ******* who doesn't think freedom of speech concerning the issues surrounding a not-fully understood virus is important, and would prefer that only the bleating voice of a tyrannical government be heard.

Or he's a thoughtful artist that was concerned he was sharing a platform with a credulous cement-headed disinformationist like Joe Rogan.