Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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arthwollipot said:
Yes, indeed. I was considering asking Tippit whether he had ever met anyone who has come to the same conclusions he has.
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Yes a vast conspiracy with limitless power that cannot implement the simplest plan nor keep zillions of people from knowing those plans.....
 
Tippit said:
If you don’t understand some basic concepts like compartmentalization, and how human beings respond to incentives, you will have trouble understanding it.
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As if you do. How about an example, where you think compartmentalization worked?
 
arthwollipot said:
In fact, that's exactly what science is designed to do.
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Eliminating the effect of the cognitive biases that cause us to tend to make false positive mistakes rather than risk false negatives - to see signals in the noise, even where there is only noise - is indeed what the scientific method is for. Conspiracy theories are, of course, textbook examples of such non existent signals, which the CTists tell themselves they are so very clever to have spotted. So it's not surprising that conspiracy theorists need to invent ways to cast doubt on the scientific method.
 
Tippit said:
There are different levels of fit. I've never been a fan of endurance running, but it's a safe bet that I will outsprint you, and outplay you at my sports. I'm definitely an internet rando, but I'm probably in the 95th percentile of the general population for overall athletic ability. If you google image marathon runners, they're all emaciated and thin ectomorphs. Not my idea of fit. If you google image sprinters, they're chiseled mesomorphs, a much healthier and more ideal body type.

The good news is, neither of us is liable to be seriously injured by Covid.
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Well if you Google "Top athlete looking really smokin hot" all the pictures are of me! So I win! You lose!
 
By the way, Tippit and Michael Suede. Instead of dying on the hill of Mount Ivermectin, why are you not interested in fluvoxamine?

Is it because, unlike ivermectin, it has been shown to have some value in treating Covid, and also because it bursts your conspiracy narrative?
 
Tippit said:
There are lots of resources about the New World Order conspiracy that you can read about, I don’t need to re-hash it here.
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Yes, but none of them are true.
Which specific sources convinced you, Tippit?

Tippit said:
If you don’t understand some basic concepts like compartmentalization, and how human beings respond to incentives, you will have trouble understanding it. None of the ridiculous conditions that he mentioned are required.
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Part of my degree was about motivation. None of it covered how to motivate employees to poison, brainwash or kill their friends and relatives for no obvious personal gain. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Just because you think most people are stupid doesn't mean they actually are stupid.

Once again, your complete lack of evidence, coupled with the usual sneering hubris, is telling. All you have is empty bluster.
 
Tippit said:
There are lots of resources about the New World Order conspiracy that you can read about, I don’t need to re-hash it here. If you don’t understand some basic concepts like compartmentalization, and how human beings respond to incentives, you will have trouble understanding it. None of the ridiculous conditions that he mentioned are required.


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You keep using those words. I do not think they mean what you think they mean.

Here, I'll explain it to you as simply as I can. Unless we're in a world war, there's always a world order. Prior to World War I, there was a world order based on balance of power. Between the wars, there was the first real attempt to create a rules-based world order. That's where the major nations agree on a set of rules that govern their interactions, particularly military. After World War II there was a world order based on spheres of influence.

The "New World Order" that you incorrectly associate with you having to get a shot or whatever that George Bush talked about in his famous speech was an attempt to move to again try a rules based world order. Specifically, he was referring to the major nations putting together coalitions to enforce the rules (like no invading). You can stop worry about this new world order as it didn't work out.
 
Tippit said:
Most health gains are due to modern sanitation and nutrition, not modern medicine. Perhaps if your friends and relatives focused more on nutrition rather than proprietary "medicines" with long lists of toxic side effects, they wouldn't have had to depend on so-called medical science to survive in the first place. I would barely trust a hospital to set a broken bone, today.
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Oh..one more thing...

How do you suppose it was proved that there was a link between sanitation and health, or which nutritional elements improve health and which don't?
 
threadworm said:
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How do you suppose it was proved that there was a link between sanitation and health, or which nutritional elements improve health and which don't?
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Couldn't possibly have anything to do with science, could it? Likely some dude with a blog thought of it.
 
threadworm said:
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How do you suppose it was proved that there was a link between sanitation and health, or which nutritional elements improve health and which don't?
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Hell, there were people who thought bathing would make you sick.
 
angrysoba said:
By the way, Tippit and Michael Suede. Instead of dying on the hill of Mount Ivermectin, why are you not interested in fluvoxamine?

Is it because, unlike ivermectin, it has been shown to have some value in treating Covid, and also because it bursts your conspiracy narrative?
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There are a lot of effective treatments for Covid, as well as protocols that combine these treatments. Ivermectin is among the most effective, and so is the most vilified by those for whom “vaccine” revenue represents a huge windfall and for which the EUA poses a problem, and by those who have other agendas.


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threadworm said:
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How do you suppose it was proved that there was a link between sanitation and health, or which nutritional elements improve health and which don't?
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I’m going to go with “Not necessarily peer reviewed medical science” for $1000, Alex.

Peer reviewed science doesn’t give a **** about the efficacy of fixing Zinc sulfate deficiencies, zinc ionophores, or ascorbic acid megadosing as effective antivirals. In fact, it has a direct conflict of interest in suppressing this information so it can sell you proprietary patented pharmaceuticals with side effects that not only generate revenue, but increase the likelihood that you will be sick and even more dependent on them in the future. This doesn’t even require a conspiracy, it’s an artifact of basic capitalist incentives and human nature. This bias, plus the RCT bias that michaelsuede observed, and the examples above are just the tip of the iceberg.

If it doesn’t generate revenue, “medical scientists” aren’t interested in it.


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Craig4 said:
Is that like how you're a rich genius? :rolleyes:
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It's funny that Tippit wants us to believe that he's a rich preemo athlete and talented science-whisperer when we can plainly see that he understands nothing about reality, particularly since what matters on this forum is not being special and superior but being able to discern and express an intelligent opinion about a global health problem.
 
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