Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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smartcooky said:
Eric Praline.

Luigi Vercotti.

Jethro Bon-Whacket Buzzardstumble'n'boot Walrustitty.

Tarquin Fin-tim-lin-bin-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-◊◊◊◊◊◊-◊◊◊◊◊◊-Olé-Biscuitbarrel.

Kevin Phillips-Bong.

Malcolm Peter Brian Telescope Adrian Umbrella Stand Jasper Wednesday Stoatgobbler John Raw Vegetable Arthur Norman Michael Featherstone Smith Northcott Edwards Harris Mason Frampton Jones Fruitbat Gilbert 'We'll keep a welcome in the' Williams If I Could Walk That Way Jenkin Tiger-drawers Pratt Thompson 'Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head' Darcy Carter Pussycat 'Don't Sleep In The Subway' Barton Mainwaring Smith.

Jeremy Walker.
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Vivian Smith-Smythe-Smith, Simon Zinc-Trumpet-Harris, Nigel Incubator-Jones, Gervaise Brook-Hampster and Oliver St John-Mollusc.
 
Tom Palven said:
Were you there in South Dakota, Varwoche?

Was Ellard there?

As incredible as it may seem to those who follow the mainstream media, the stories of the Sturgis motorcycle rallies as "super-spreaders" were total BS.
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In your fevered imagination, County health agencies in SD are complicit.
Every County agency in the country is complicit.
Every country in the world is complicit.
Every hospital is complicit.
The entire worldwide medical establishment is complicit.
Morgues are complicit.
Companies that provide refrigerator trucks are complicit.
 
smartcooky said:
Eric Praline.

Luigi Vercotti.

Jethro Bon-Whacket Buzzardstumble'n'boot Walrustitty.

Tarquin Fin-tim-lin-bin-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-◊◊◊◊◊◊-◊◊◊◊◊◊-Olé-Biscuitbarrel.

Kevin Phillips-Bong.

Malcolm Peter Brian Telescope Adrian Umbrella Stand Jasper Wednesday Stoatgobbler John Raw Vegetable Arthur Norman Michael Featherstone Smith Northcott Edwards Harris Mason Frampton Jones Fruitbat Gilbert 'We'll keep a welcome in the' Williams If I Could Walk That Way Jenkin Tiger-drawers Pratt Thompson 'Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head' Darcy Carter Pussycat 'Don't Sleep In The Subway' Barton Mainwaring Smith.

Jeremy Walker.
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Arthur Nudge
 
varwoche said:
In your fevered imagination, County health agencies in SD are complicit.
Every County agency in the country is complicit.
Every country in the world is complicit.
Every hospital is complicit.
The entire worldwide medical establishment is complicit.
Morgues are complicit.
Companies that provide refrigerator trucks are complicit.
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You're complicit! The whole damn system is complicit!
 
Tom Palven said:
Are reports of excess deaths due to covid vaccinations totally bogus?

I truly don't know.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/unprecedented-deaths-in-indiana-for
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Steve Kirsch? He's an anti-vaxx crank. (which means Joe Rogan will probably have him on his podcast before long).

He's been talking about excess deaths being due to vaccines since the vaccines came out, even though it has been shown to him that these excess deaths occurred at a huge rate prior to the vaccines, and then dropped as the vaccine roll-out occurred.

He has also been dumpster diving in VAERS throughout this. I saw him doing a couple of debates. On one of them he arranged for a debate with someone who wanted to show him what he was doing wrong with his data, and he brought on about twenty other people who were spewing just about every colour in the anti-vax rainbow and then some that I didn't even know existed. Everything from vaccines causing autism, to bringing back hydroxychloroquine etc...

I would expect this to be more of the same.

ETA: Holy crap... had a scan through that document and Kirsch is a really terrible writer:

This is big. Really big. And I’m not the only one that thinks so.

Key points:

Deaths among 18-64 year-olds (who don’t normally die) are up by 40% in 2021 vs. pre-pandemic levels

This is huge. HUGE. They’ve never seen anything like this before in their history. Normally death rates don’t change at all. They are very stable. It would take something REALLY BIG to have an effect this big.
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Anyway, he cites some information from an insurance company saying that excess deaths are up, but also points out that the CEO of the same insurance company wants all employees vaccinated. Insurance companies are actually quite good sources of information in the sense that while "Big Pharma" might want to put drugs out even at the risk of the population, insurance companies don't like losing money and tend to price in things like that. This is one of the reasons why, for them, if they think the vaccines are safe, they would want people vaccinated instead of getting sick with Covid and leading to longer term, expensive care.


Anyway, Steve Kirsch may or may not know this, but figures his rube followers don't think or know about it, but as Plaingale pointed out way back, the flu leads to excess deaths from people who initially recover and then die later due to a weakened immune system. The same trend seems to have been shown from severe Covid sufferers who also tend to die within a year even if they recover. So it does not matter that Covid numbers are "way down".


Nearly 180 people left the University of Florida health system alive after being hospitalized with severe COVID-19 during the US's first wave of coronavirus infections. But within a year, more than half of those recovered patients had died, according to a study from University of Florida researchers published Wednesday.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/severe-covid-doubles-risk-of-death-study-2021-12
 
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angrysoba said:
Steve Kirsch? He's an anti-vaxx crank. (which means Joe Rogan will probably have him on his podcast before long).

He's been talking about excess deaths being due to vaccines since the vaccines came out, even though it has been shown to him that these excess deaths occurred at a huge rate prior to the vaccines, and then dropped as the vaccine roll-out occurred.

He has also been dumpster diving in VAERS throughout this. I saw him doing a couple of debates. On one of them he arranged for a debate with someone who wanted to show him what he was doing wrong with his data, and he brought on about twenty other people who were spewing just about every colour in the anti-vax rainbow and then some that I didn't even know existed. Everything from vaccines causing autism, to bringing back hydroxychloroquine etc...

I would expect this to be more of the same.

ETA: Holy crap... had a scan through that document and Kirsch is a really terrible writer:



Anyway, he cites some information from an insurance company saying that excess deaths are up, but also points out that the CEO of the same insurance company wants all employees vaccinated. Insurance companies are actually quite good sources of information in the sense that while "Big Pharma" might want to put drugs out even at the risk of the population, insurance companies don't like losing money and tend to price in things like that. This is one of the reasons why, for them, if they think the vaccines are safe, they would want people vaccinated instead of getting sick with Covid and leading to longer term, expensive care.


Anyway, Steve Kirsch may or may not know this, but figures his rube followers don't think or know about it, but as Plaingale pointed out way back, the flu leads to excess deaths from people who initially recover and then die later due to a weakened immune system. The same trend seems to have been shown from severe Covid sufferers who also tend to die within a year even if they recover. So it does not matter that Covid numbers are "way down".




https://www.businessinsider.com/severe-covid-doubles-risk-of-death-study-2021-12
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Thanks.
 
Tom Palven said:
Are reports of excess deaths due to covid vaccinations totally bogus?

I truly don't know.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/unprecedented-deaths-in-indiana-for
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Yes.


ETA: I have seen US data, but can't get hold of it

In England and Wales to the end of November, the Covid vaccine had been involved in 13 deaths with about 90-million doses given.

Is this some type of performance art, where you only believe in excess deaths where there is evidence that they don't exist?
 
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jimbob said:
Yes.


ETA: I have seen US data, but can't get hold of it

In England and Wales to the end of November, the Covid vaccine had been involved in 13 deaths with about 90-million doses given.

Is this some type of performance art, where you only believe in excess deaths where there is evidence that they don't exist?
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What do you think of these reports from Germany that Omicron is a disease of the vaccinated?
https://nationalfile.com/96-germans...-28-triple-vaxxed-4-unvaxxed-government-says/

This story has not appeared in our daily newspaper, The Times-Union, Jacksonville, Fl. Don't know if it's on TV news since my wife and I watch little TV, and no TV news at all.
 
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Tom Palven said:
What do you think of these reports from Germany that Omicron is a disease of the vaccinated?
https://nationalfile.com/96-germans...-28-triple-vaxxed-4-unvaxxed-government-says/

This story has not appeared in our daily newspaper, The Times-Union, Jacksonville, Fl. Don't know if it's on TV news since my wife and I watch little TV, and no TV news at all.
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I gave you one bite of the cherry when you linked to that stupendously idiotic Steve Kirsch article. I assumed that maybe someone had sent it to you and you wanted some kind of analysis of it. But it looks, from your posting history, and now from this new post, that you are JAQing off and invoking Covid conspiracy theories everywhere.

This is not the place for it. Take that to the CT forums.
 
Tom Palven said:
What do you think of these reports from Germany that Omicron is a disease of the vaccinated?
https://nationalfile.com/96-germans...-28-triple-vaxxed-4-unvaxxed-government-says/

This story has not appeared in our daily newspaper, The Times-Union, Jacksonville, Fl. Don't know if it's on TV news since my wife and I watch little TV, and no TV news at all.
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Why are you now jumping from Indiana to Germany?

Some analysis from the CDC

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7043e2-H.pdf

Summary

What is already known about this topic?
Although deaths after COVID-19 vaccination have been
reported to the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System, few
studies have been conducted to evaluate mortality not
associated with COVID-19 among vaccinated and
unvaccinated groups.

What is added by this report?
During December 2020–July 2021, COVID-19 vaccine recipients had lower rates of non–COVID-19 mortality than did unvaccinated persons after adjusting for age, sex, race and ethnicity, and study site. What are the implications for public health practice?
There is no increased risk for mortality among COVID-19
vaccine recipients. This finding reinforces the safety profile of
currently approved COVID-19 vaccines in the United States. All
persons aged ≥12 years should receive a COVID-19 vaccine.
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I can think of several explanations for the highlighted part. But all include the vaccine being safe

Or for other countries and looking at Covid deaths:

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination
 
Some wise guy on another thread posted this:

Bhakdi/Burkhardt pathology results show 93% of people who died after being vaccinated were killed by the vaccine

The vaccine was implicated in 93% of the deaths in the patients they examined. What’s troubling is the coroner didn’t implicate the vaccine in any of those deaths.

Summary

The vaccines are bad news. Fifteen bodies were examined (all died from 7 days to 6 months after vaccination; ages 28 to 95). The coroner or the public prosecutor didn’t associate the vaccine as the cause of death in any of the cases. However, further examination revealed that the vaccine was implicated in the deaths of 14 of the 15 cases. The most attacked organ was the heart (in all of the people who died), but other organs were attacked as well. The implications are potentially enormous resulting in millions of deaths. The vaccines should be immediately halted.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/bhakd...vaccinated-were-killed-by-the-vaccine/5765859
 
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