Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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jimbob said:
Tom Palven said:
What questions?

The only question I want answered is whether the alleged Covid-19 pandemic is a case of mass psychosis, like Christianutty, for example.
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No

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This shows all cause deaths per week in England and Wales for every week from wk31, 1999 to wk49, 2021 from the data on the ONS website.


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You are presumably able to spot that both April 2020, and Winter 2020-21 were extreme outliers. Especially April 2020.

You can do similar exercises for other countries as well. It's just that I have seen few places with every week this century other than England and Wales.
 
Cosmic Yak said:
I didn't say they were written today: I said they were available to read on Offguardian today.
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That's certainly how I read it.

How many of the articles currently available on the real Guardian website (or even in today's print edition) were written in the last 24 hours? A truly pathetic deflection attempt.
 
Pixel42 said:
That's certainly how I read it.

How many of the articles currently available on the real Guardian website (or even in today's print edition) were written in the last 24 hours? A truly pathetic deflection attempt.
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It reminds me of one of the old Stundie nominations.

Person 1: I bet you can't name one problem with (conspiracy theory).
Person 2: Lists four problems.
Person 1: See, I told you you couldn't name one problem.
 
Childlike Empress said:
As we can all easily see by the URLs, none of those articles are from today. I won't click on anything to see what exactly goes over your head.
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I do wonder about the wisdom of trying to wake up the sheeple by means of articles that they think the sheeple are too stupid to understand.
CE, how much success do you think Offguardian has had with this approach?
 
Cosmic Yak said:
I do wonder about the wisdom of trying to wake up the sheeple by means of articles that they think the sheeple are too stupid to understand.
CE, how much success do you think Offguardian has had with this approach?
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It plays well with their target audience, who like to think that they're privy to secret knowledge.
 
jimbob said:
It plays well with their target audience, who like to think that they're privy to secret knowledge.
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Kit Knightly and other clear-thinkers are not promoting a conspiracy replete with secret knowledge.

This alleged coronavirus plague of enormous proportions is the result of a perfect storm of many factors which have been discussed openly, not just a few Big Pharma execs plotting how to become billionaires.
 
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Tom Palven said:
Kit Knightly and other clear-thinkers are not promoting a conspiracy replete with secret knowledge.
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Your narrative is that everyone is wrong about covid-19 except for a few unqualified people like Knightly who can be easily debunked. Their facts are wrong, and yet you insist that their conclusions are correct. This isn't a very rational position. Why do you hold it?

Tom Palven said:
The alleged coronavirus plague of enormous proportions is the result of a perfect storm of many factors, not just a few Big Pharma execs plotting how to become billionaires.
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I guess the point of this statement is to be so vague that it repels challenge. You have a bad habit of shouting out a few disjointed cliches while saying nothing.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Maybe you are not the target audience?

Seriously, speak for yourself.

Kit Knightly is an excellent author and OffGuardian carries profound content since long before the plandemic.
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And David Icke is a reliable source of information, and you're a real scientist.

What was this scientific work you've done, again?
 
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Childlike Empress said:
As we can all easily see by the URLs, none of those articles are from today.
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That was either a desperate attempt at deflection, or the smartest person on this forum has surprisingly poor reading compression.

I won't click on anything to see what exactly goes over your head.
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Of course. It has nothing to do with evading the ridiculousness of yet another source you've endorsed.
 
Tom Palven said:
Kit Knightly and other clear-thinkers are not promoting a conspiracy replete with secret knowledge.

This alleged coronavirus plague of enormous proportions is the result of a perfect storm of many factors which have been discussed openly, not just a few Big Pharma execs plotting how to become billionaires.
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Well if it's definitely not a conspiracy, then that would mean that all the experts in the world are just too stupid, compared to you, to tell COVID-19 from the common cold, and they just think that 5.5 million people have died because, well, they're so stupid compared to you.

You should seriously think about declaring yourself a Real Scientist™ as well.
 
Fixed it for you.
Foster Zygote said:
That was either a desperate attempt at deflection, or the smartest person on this forum, and smarter than anyone that any of us have ever encountered in our lifetimes, has surprisingly poor reading compression.
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Illusory superiority is a defining characteristic of unhinged CTists.
 
Tom Palven said:
Kit Knightly and other clear-thinkers are not promoting a conspiracy replete with secret knowledge.

This alleged coronavirus plague of enormous proportions is the result of a perfect storm of many factors which have been discussed openly, not just a few Big Pharma execs plotting how to become billionaires.
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We have pointed out that it has about 1.6% IFR amongst unvaccinated people

However a central estimate for excess deaths due to Covid of 18-million is significant. And that's with mitigations.


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https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/...ive-economist-single-entity?country=~OWID_WRL
 
Tom Palven said:
The Covid Narrative is Insane -Kit Knightly
https://off-guardian.org/2021/12/29...ne-and-illogical-and-maybe-thats-no-accident/
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Conspiracy-Pseudoscience source, aka off-guardian? Why are your sources based on opinion and false information? Do you read the claptrap you reference, or fall for the headline? Ironically the the title should read,

Kit Knightly is Insane - here is his opinion and BS on The Covid Narrative

Was the woo too complicated for you to comment? Why no comment?

Then you cite
Tom Palven said:
There's nothing vague or conspiratorial about Knightly's 30 Facts:
https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/22/30-facts-you-need-to-know-your-covid-cribsheet/
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Kit Knightly's Gish Gallop on Covid

One of his narratives in one of his "facts" is "Meanwhile, a new disease called “Covid”, which has identical symptoms and a similar mortality rate to influenza, is apparently affecting all the people normally affected by the flu. - Kit says so..." USA with 12k to 60k deaths a year from flu in Kit's insane world of woo is equal to 400k deaths?

Math test for Kit? Is 12k/yr = to 400k/yr

Kit, is 60k/yr = to 400k/yr?

Kit is only off by ~an order of magnitude on Mortality rate. Guess you don't need to use math when your audience can't do math

Do you read and comprehend the BS you post from Conspiracy-Pseudoscience sources? No

Ironically many of the things he says are debunked by the graphs he failed to comprehend don't support his narrative - he debunks himself. Are there facts in his "facts", yes, that is how he fools you with his BS. Tom, you like BS, and you believe it blindly - why are you unable to read graphs?

good news for you anti-vaxxers, Omicron seems to be less severe...

My family members who had Covid, the unvaccinated members, were stuck in bed for a week, unable to do household chores, and the vaccinated members, were able to do household chores and recovered quickly. Anti-vaxxers don't understand vaccines, and go out of their way, like you, to find sources to support their BS.

At least Kit did not use a Hitler quote introducing his BS, he used a quote from fictional work, 1984... not sure which is better for his efforts -
"“Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense.” George Orwell, 1984"
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Which seems to be a warning that Kit's work is BS, it is exactly what Kit's work is.

You have to believe Kit, he is your BigBrother - you are a disciple of the Party, the Party of woo. Relax, there are some big lies, and some little lies, and great examples of cherry picking, and other errors in Kit's work... Relax, you are not able to find them, or critique them... Thus you are safe from reality. Reality sucks!

Did Kit get the vaccine? Clownstick got the vaccine and his booster, and he thinks Windmills cause cancer... nearly time for FOOTBALL... good day
 
Childlike Empress said:
As we can all easily see by the URLs, none of those articles are from today. I won't click on anything to see what exactly goes over your head.
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"I don't like this evidence, I demand evidence that was produced on a Wednesday while wearing shorts and eating a cucumber."
 
And I've updated my graph of weekly deaths in England and Wales to include those mentioning Covid on the death certificate as well.

Unsurprisingly to anyone who is not a complete fool, you can see how their peaks coincide with the peaks of extra deaths that you'd not expect at that time of year.

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