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Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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Tom Palven said:
You have studied the situation, tried to put 2 and 2 together, and have published your opinions, so on that basis I would say that you are an investigative reporter.
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I have studied the situation. I have tried to put 2 and 2 together. I published my opinion at the New York Times, in the form of a reader comment.

varwoche
Investigative Reporter
New York Times

Damn that's impressive. I'm going to get some business cards printed up.
 
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Tom Palven said:
You have studied the situation, tried to put 2 and 2 together, and have published your opinions, so on that basis I would say that you are an investigative reporter.
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?????????????????????

I'm an opinionated, now retired, nurse, who also wrote some pieces for various nursey publications and the like...Seriously, that does not make me a journalist of any sort. Nor does it make me a high speed train...
 
Tom Palven said:
You've made it perfectly clear that you do not consider Kit Knightly to be an investigative reporter, but would you indulge my question as to whether you consider Julian Assange and/or Glenn Greenwald to be investigative journalists?

What are your facts regarding them?
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Anyone can call themselves an investigative journalist, so as an investigative journalist, believe me when I say that this is irrelevant. The fact about Knightly that you continue to dance around is that his opinions are contradicted by science, and he's wrong. Do you have something to say about that?

Covid-19 isn't just the flu or just a cold. There's no big plot to fool people about the pandemic. I could even guarantee that every government in every country in the world would be thrilled if it simply disappeared. Knightly's opinions are rejected here because they're wrong. Every one of his 30 points are wrong and they've been contradicted and debunked by actual experts. Maybe you should do your research more carefully.
 
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catsmate said:
A friend of mine and his partner won't be joining us for the Generic Mid-winter Festival fest as they're both now working, due to the shortage of medical staff.
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Well, here I sit all on my lonesome on Christmas day. Of 14 of us supposedly sitting down to xmas dinner 5 have covid, 2 are heart lung recipients so are staying the hell away from anyone, 2 flew in from switzerland and are isolating in a hotel, 2 more were rocking up from the boonies not any more, I just had the booster so I am a mess of side effects and not fit for human consumption. To add to that, Sarah, 32, suicided.

So thanks to the antivaxxers, merry ******* christmas.
 
Here, Tom, let me help

Tom Palven said:
Could it be that the shortages were due to mandatory testing which detected common colds?
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Perhaps maybe: That cold due shortages detected the common mandatory could be testing to it which?

Pro tip: When they're in doubt, paraphrase.
 
Tom Palven said:
Could it be that the shortages were due to mandatory testing which detected common colds?
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No, they are due to the Omicron variant, as detailed in the post. This disinformation hill you're determined to die on is fast becoming no taller than ant hill.
 
Last night before church my wife and I had a fancy dinner with one of her/our lifelong friends.

The lady was upset that her niece had torpedoed a family gathering by announcing she planned to bring her unvaccinated family to Christmas dinner. As the conversation progressed and the vine flowed we found out that the mom had let her two pre-teen children decide for themselves it they wanted to get vaccinated.

I thought that was rather disingenuous since the kids had likely been heavily influenced by an anti-vax nuclear family.

The family gathering was shot. Several family members who had driven in from hours away decided to stay in the motel over Christmas and a few vaccinated folks decided to go to the dinner and Christmas Day doings.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 188 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth.
 
I spoiled another Christmas dinner by declining to eat with my unvaccinated niece and her family. Omicron is crazy in my province, and I'll just stay home, thanks.
 
bruto said:
All you have to do here is come up with good evidence that Covid tests mistake a common cold for Covid. No doubt such evidence is right there and you just forgot to give it to us.
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Right here in Florida they once mistook a motorcycle death for Covid-19.

It's true.

I swear on the soul of my father, Domingo Montoya.
 
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Tom Palven said:
Right here in Florida they once mistook a motorcycle death for Covid-19.

It's true.

I swear on the soul of my father, Domingo Montoya.
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Outdated info.

In late July 2020, Snopes readers began inquiring about news reports that a person killed in a motorcycle crash had been listed as a COVID-19 death in Florida.

Florida was among states experiencing a surge in COVID-19 cases amid the ongoing pandemic, but political leaders including U.S. President Donald Trump and Trump supporters such as Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis were criticized for downplaying the virus.

Contrary to what DeSantis stated, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidance doesn’t direct caregivers to list all deaths as COVID-19 deaths simply because the disease was detected in the decedent. Instead, it instructs caregivers to list various factors contributing to death in appropriate sections of death certificates. In other words, it does not state that anyone who suffers an unnatural death such as a traffic accident should be listed as a COVID-19-caused death if they also happen to test positive, even if the disease didn’t cause to their death.

It does appear to the case, however, that a motorcyclist who was killed in a traffic accident also tested positive for COVID-19, and was initially listed among Florida’s COVID-19-related deaths. But officials from the Florida Department of Health said that person has since been removed from the count.
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Nice try disinformationist.

Now, do you have the evidence Bruto asked for in his post?
 
Tom Palven said:
Right here in Florida they once mistook a motorcycle death for Covid-19.

It's true.

I swear on the soul of my father, Domingo Montoya.
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WOW, that sure proves that something once might have happened somewhere, all right. It even has something to do with Covid, so it shares a whole five letters with the question. Hats off, gentlemen...
 
Tom Palven said:
Dr. Raul Pino, an Orange County health official said that "you could could argue that Covid-19 caused the crash."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-motorcycle-crash-listed-as-coronavirus-death

After public outcry, officials removed that one death from the Covid-19 count.
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Yes, it was removed; as a disinformationist, you left that out of your original post, and likely would never have acknowledged it, hadn't you been corrected.

So, do you have the evidence bruto asked for?
 
Tom Palven said:
Right here in Florida they once mistook a motorcycle death for Covid-19.

It's true.

I swear on the soul of my father, Domingo Montoya.
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Implying that >800,000 dead Americans are miscategorized deaths of all kinds simply because of one clerical error made under pressure and later corrected is, frankly, an incredibly stupid argument.
 
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