Cont: Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part IV

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Captain_Swoop said:
What is your evidence for this?
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Kit Knightly was a voluntary commentator at the Guardian during the Ukraine crisis in 2014. If that doesn't qualify him as an investigative reporter, or at least a fledgling investigative reporter in your opinion, so be it.

Was Julian Assange an investigative journalist before his imprisonment?

I say yes. A lot of people disagree.
 
Tom Palven said:
Kit Knightly was a voluntary commentator at the Guardian during the Ukraine crisis in 2014. If that doesn't qualify him as an investigative reporter, or at least a fledgling investigative reporter in your opinion, so be it.

Was Julian Assange an investigative journalist before his imprisonment?

I say yes. A lot of people disagree.
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So if I post some comments on the Guardian does it make me a Guardian Investigative Journalist?
 
Tom Palven said:
Kit Knightly was a voluntary commentator at the Guardian during the Ukraine crisis in 2014. If that doesn't qualify him as an investigative reporter, or at least a fledgling investigative reporter in your opinion, so be it.

Was Julian Assange an investigative journalist before his imprisonment?

I say yes. A lot of people disagree.
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I have seen some grasping at straws in my time to try to save a failed statement :rolleyes:. If there was a straw grasping hall of fame this would be a charter member.
 
Tom Palven said:
Kit Knightly was a voluntary commentator at the Guardian during the Ukraine crisis in 2014. If that doesn't qualify him as an investigative reporter, or at least a fledgling investigative reporter in your opinion, so be it.
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No, he appears never to have been an investigative reporter, not that it matters. Following the principle of "you are what you do", Knightly is a font of disinfo and propaganda. You can try to fancy it up all you want, but that doesn't change the facts.
 
Tom Palven said:
Kit Knightly was a voluntary commentator at the Guardian during the Ukraine crisis in 2014. If that doesn't qualify him as an investigative reporter, or at least a fledgling investigative reporter in your opinion, so be it.

Was Julian Assange an investigative journalist before his imprisonment?

I say yes. A lot of people disagree.
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This is what it looks like when a pathological, or at least habitual, liar gets caught in an obvious lie.

Kit Knightly has never been what any honest person would characterize as an investigative journalist working for The Guardian, any more than you could be characterized as a researcher for the James Sandi Educational Foundation merely by the act of posting to this forum.

Kit Knightly is an idiot. You keep coming up with idiots when you attempt your scientifically antithetical quest for anyone who supports your claims. Perhaps you should ask yourself why that is.
 
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Foster Zygote said:
Does anyone else have any thoughts as to whether the world's medical science community is too dumb to figure out that it's just the flu and people are dying of hysterical delusions, or if they're all part of an evil empire of deception and fully committed to the hoax?
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This is an excellent question which is being repeatedly ignored.
 
eerok said:
No, he appears never to have been an investigative reporter, not that it matters. Following the principle of "you are what you do", Knightly is a font of disinfo and propaganda. You can try to fancy it up all you want, but that doesn't change the facts.
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You've made it perfectly clear that you do not consider Kit Knightly to be an investigative reporter, but would you indulge my question as to whether you consider Julian Assange and/or Glenn Greenwald to be investigative journalists?

What are your facts regarding them?
 
Tom Palven said:
Here's another source that you might want to deem useless:

Is COVID becoming a pandemic of the vaccinated?
https://www.americanthinker.com/art...ow_becoming_a_pandemic_of_the_vaccinated.html

And here's Kit Knightly speaking for himself:
https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1538-kit-knightly-on-off-guardians-corona-coverage/
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Cosmic Yak said:
Tom Palven, what is your position on vaccines? Are you vaccinated yourself?
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Tom Palven said:
Yes, I had to be doubly vaccinated to travel to Mexico and the Balkans recently.


Vaccines have been extremely useful in the prevention of smallpox, polio, and other diseases.

Not so much with cold viruses, including coronaviruses.
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Thanks for your answer.
Here's the thing:
Your first source is written by someone who has been vaccinated, and who is not anti-vaccine. Your second one is by someone who says that vaccines are ineffective and potentially dangerous.
Which one of these are you going to disown?
My guess is the second, your hero, your Knightly in Shiting Armour, as you yourself have had the jab.
It might make your claims more coherent and less foolish-looking if you actually read your own links. Just saying.
 
Tom Palven said:
Kit Knightly was a voluntary commentator at the Guardian during the Ukraine crisis in 2014. If that doesn't qualify him as an investigative reporter, or at least a fledgling investigative reporter in your opinion, so be it.
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That puts him in exactly the same category as me: I have commented widely and extensively BTL on Teh Graun, especially about matters concerning healthcare (the less said about my comments on cricket the better); I was a regular contributor to a nursing blogging site, writing especially about mental health and NHS management.

So, I am an investigative journalist, according to your definition.

I shall link to an analysis of Knightly's pieces (again) just to highlight the quality of his "investigative journalism" - https://healthfeedback.org/authors/kit-knightly/
 
Tom Palven said:
The only source that I think I agree with completely is Kit Knightly, a former Guardian investigative reporter
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Tom Palven said:
The Guardian published investigative reports from Kit Knightly until it banned him for being politically incorrect.
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Tom Palven said:
Kit Knightly was a voluntary commentator at the Guardian during the Ukraine crisis in 2014. If that doesn't qualify him as an investigative reporter, or at least a fledgling investigative reporter in your opinion, so be it.
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This is so funny.....:D
 
Tom Palven said:
The only source that I think I agree with completely is Kit Knightly, a former Guardian investigative reporter who now has a website called Off Guardian.<snip>
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Then I assume you agree with the various lies he promulgates? About the lack of excess mortality due to Covid? Or his lie about the CDC changing the criteria for PCR tests?
You're pushing the same far-right, libertarian, nonsense.
Pathetic.
:rolleyes:
 
Carrot Flower King said:
That puts him in exactly the same category as me: I have commented widely and extensively BTL on Teh Graun, especially about matters concerning healthcare...
So, I am an investigative journalist, according to your definition.
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You have studied the situation, tried to put 2 and 2 together, and have published your opinions, so on that basis I would say that you are an investigative reporter.

But, the opinions of investigative reporters (and everyone else in the world) differ with each other to some extent.

I happen to agree with Mattias Desmond, a Belgian philosophy professor and statistician by training, with regard to excess deaths.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqPJiM5Ir3A

Am I cherry-picking?

Call it what you want to.

I am providing an opinion from a highly qualified person who would seem to have nothing to gain from expressing this opinion.
 
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