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So, rather like Desmond Dekker singing about the Eukaryotes, then? How did he get this knowledge? PROOF OF GOD AND SCIENCY STUFF BECAUSE I SAID SO!!!!!!!!!!!


Well of course Desmond actually said "Israelites", BUT - the reason GOD made him choose that word is because it sounds like "Eukarotes", and the faithful will know how to correctly "interpret" the word. Because you see, as has been explained earlier in this thread; God wants us to study his words and learn for ourselves, so that we have to look for the inner meaning of his words ... in the good book it actually says that God originally used the word "karaoke", but then he decided that was too easy (and also he did not want people going around half-sloshed & belting out naff boozy sing-along stuff) …

… and also – there are many places in the holy book where God used the seemingly simple word “and”, but look what happens when that is spelled backwards … “DNA”!! … so in fact the holy book contains thousands of descriptions of DNA!


Or, if the above is all wrong, then the answer is surely two-&-a-half (more-or-less).
 
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Heydarian Saeed from Iran
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See? Superstitious load of old bollocks. Go ahead and show where kilometers are mentioned in the koran. Or teleportation technology. Or Hawking. Or Roger Penrose. You cannot. Because you are merely changing what the koran actually says to what you want it to say. That is called blasphemy.

Hello. Would you like me to tell you the address of the verse and chapter of the Quran for teleportation? To see.
 
Heydarian, why are you bothering? All you're doing is preaching, and you know that isn't convincing. We've given you detailed reasons why you're wrong and all you do instead of countering those reasons is restate your belief. What are you hoping to accomplish?

Hi dear friend. I hope in God. Do you Preaching the scientific material that I am telling you about the Qur'an? Your judgment is incorrect. I do not preach. I only tell you what God has said in the Qur'an.
 
Please quote all the verses that say this.

Hello dear friend. For the evolution of man from the perspective of the Qur'an, I left the following messages with the word of God. And I explained in detail. Please read the following messages: 2113-2114-2172-2173-2177-2178-2182-2183-2184- 2185- 2199-2200-2202-2234-2235-2236 If you pay attention, 16 messages entitled "Human evolution article from the perspective God in the Qur'an "I wrote to you. And I uploaded. Please read. Also, the following verses in the Qur'an, which I have translated and explained in the above messages: 19/29 - 20/29 - 33 / 3-133 / 6-12 / 23-13 / 23-14 / 23-9 / 41-10 / 41-2 / 78-3 / 87- 7 / 86-15 / 26-20 / 77-22 / 77-23 / 77-4 / 16-7 / 82-7 / 11-22 / 36-50 / 17-51 / 17-26 / 15-27 / 15-28 / 15-29 / 15-14 / 71 In 27 verses, God has said in the Qur'an about the path of human evolution. God is infinitely wise and prudent. And his knowledge is unparalleled.
I am very glad that you and I believe in the wisdom and knowledge of God.
 
I do not preach. I only tell you what God has said in the Qur'an.
Claiming that the contents of the Qu'ran can be interpreted as referring to recent scientific discoveries is preaching. In fact just claiming that God is responsible for those contents, despite all the evidence to the contrary, is preaching.
 
Heydarian, there are things we don't know about the most redshifted objects in the universe. We're launching the Webb Space Telescope to learn more about those things.

You claim that all scientific knowledge is in the Quran. Since you've studied the Quran which contains all scientific knowledge, you should already know what the Webb Space Telescope will find over the next several years.

If tell us now what the Webb will find, and be clear and specific in doing so, it would make your claim that the Quran contains all scientific knowledge much more credible.

If you can't tell us that now, why not?

Hello. You said great. I myself want to see what the Web Telescope is looking for? It is definitely mentioned in the Qur'an. Just a hint. Does not give details. And it's up to humans to discover. I have said many times before that the Qur'an is not a scientific encyclopedia. Just points. This is not my specialty. I have no information. But I want to check. And see. Thanks
 
"Humans are classified in the sub-group of primates known as the Great Apes. Humans are primates, but the primates that we most closely resemble are the apes. We are therefore classified along with all other apes in a primate sub-group known as the hominoids (Superfamily Hominoidea)".

Humans are apes – 'Great Apes' - The Australian Museum

https://australian.museum › science › human-evolution

Hello. Thank you very much for uploading the Australian Comprehensive Museum website. I'm seeing it and enjoying it. But ... Monkeys are one of the stages of human evolution. And one can be one of their descendants. We accept this part of the process of human evolution from ape. But we believe that this stage of human evolution is only one stage. And has explained the view of the Qur'an by God beyond this stage. In fact, God says: I have created matter, which is the lifeblood of living things, since singularity almost 14 billion years ago.
Before the earth was created, God created water. The earth is a mass isolated from the sun. It is approximately 4.7 billion years old. It took up to 1.7 billion years for the Earth to form life on the surface temperature of its crust. Here begins to explain the simple single-cell creation of eukaryotes. After the completion of the eukaryote, The command of God is the "soul". When it enters inanimate matter. Comes alive!
. And the single cell comes to life. One of the most important questions that scientists have not yet answered is: how does non-living matter suddenly come to life !!! God says: I command inanimate matter and it comes to life. This is a miracle. And science has no answer for this process.
Darwin studied the theory of evolution 450 million years ago. But God has started human evolution since the singularity. And in the Qur'an he has explained all its stages. You see, the theory of the evolution of the Qur'an, according to God, completes all the shortcomings of other theories like Darwin. Therefore, the Qur'an speaks beyond science and all theories.
 
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Claiming that the contents of the Qu'ran can be interpreted as referring to recent scientific discoveries is preaching. In fact just claiming that God is responsible for those contents, despite all the evidence to the contrary, is preaching.

Hello. Of course you speak well. But I do not know your definition of preaching. Therefore, I do not understand what you and other friends mean by preaching. Please explain to me. And what is the preaching from the Western point of view? Thanks.
 
Hello. Thank you very much for uploading the Australian Comprehensive Museum website. I'm seeing it and enjoying it. But ... Monkeys are one of the stages of human evolution. And one can be one of their descendants. We accept this part of the process of human evolution from ape. But we believe that this stage of human evolution is only one stage. And has explained the view of the Qur'an by God beyond this stage. In fact, God says: I have created matter, which is the lifeblood of living things, since singularity almost 14 billion years ago.
Before the earth was created, God created water. The earth is a mass isolated from the sun. It is approximately 4.7 billion years old. It took up to 1.7 billion years for the Earth to form life on the surface temperature of its crust. Darwin studied the theory of evolution 450 million years ago. But God has started human evolution since the singularity. And in the Qur'an he has explained all its stages. You see, the theory of the evolution of the Qur'an, according to God, completes all the shortcomings of other theories like Darwin. Therefore, the Qur'an speaks beyond science and all theories.


No, “god did it” explains nothing.
 
Hello. Of course you speak well. But I do not know your definition of preaching. Therefore, I do not understand what you and other friends mean by preaching. Please explain to me. And what is the preaching from the Western point of view? Thanks.

preach

preach
VERB

- deliver a sermon or religious address to an assembled group of people, typically in church.

- publicly proclaim or teach (a religious message or belief).

This is a discussion forum. It is not a pulpit.
 
No. I do not know about this. And should be examined in the Qur'an. The relevant expert should check in the Qur'an. It's not my job. I would love to check too.

Where in the Qur'an does it explain how your god was able to teleport whilst overcoming the Uncertainty Principle?
Oh, and it is very much your job. If you're going to claim the Qur'an is full of astonishing scientific insights, then you need to back that claim up.
Please quote chapter and verse where is explains the Uncertainty Principle.
 
Hello. You said great. I myself want to see what the Web Telescope is looking for? It is definitely mentioned in the Qur'an. Just a hint. Does not give details. And it's up to humans to discover. I have said many times before that the Qur'an is not a scientific encyclopedia. Just points. This is not my specialty. I have no information. But I want to check. And see. Thanks


What is that hint? Where in the book does it appear?

If the designers of the telescope came to you or to your sources and asked, "What does the Quran say about how we should best configure or operate our apparatus to find the discoveries it's hinting about," what could you tell them?
 
Nope. In yours as well. Try reading what you yourself wrote.

For example...
"These words of mine are none of my own."

Your claim is that your words are not your words. That's absurd.

"It is the words of the Quran. I only translate up to date."

Your claim is that you are altering the koran.

And it goes on and on. You cannot even agree with yourself.

We do not understand the Qur'an except its meaning and interpretation. Well, in this regard, many meanings and interpretations have been said for the Qur'an. I have also chosen the current meaning and interpretation of the Qur'an with modern science. To understand that the Qur'an contains the contents of modern science? And reviews and evidence show that there is. And I have told you many examples of the scientific contents of the Qur'an. This method is not against the Quran. It is an attempt to understand the Qur'an.
Given the progress of science, if we read the Qur'an with ancient translations, it was nothing but superstition. So we need to translate up to date. And get the Qur'an out of scientific abandonment. Therefore, your judgment is not correct for my current meanings and interpretation of the Qur'an.
 
Hello. Thank you very much for uploading the Australian Comprehensive Museum website. I'm seeing it and enjoying it. But ... Monkeys are one of the stages of human evolution. And one can be one of their descendants. We accept this part of the process of human evolution from ape. But we believe that this stage of human evolution is only one stage. And has explained the view of the Qur'an by God beyond this stage. In fact, God says: I have created matter, which is the lifeblood of living things, since singularity almost 14 billion years ago.
Before the earth was created, God created water. The earth is a mass isolated from the sun. It is approximately 4.7 billion years old. It took up to 1.7 billion years for the Earth to form life on the surface temperature of its crust. Here begins to explain the simple single-cell creation of eukaryotes. After the completion of the eukaryote, The command of God is the "soul". When it enters inanimate matter. Comes alive!
. And the single cell comes to life. One of the most important questions that scientists have not yet answered is: how does non-living matter suddenly come to life !!! God says: I command inanimate matter and it comes to life. This is a miracle. And science has no answer for this process.Darwin studied the theory of evolution 450 million years ago. But God has started human evolution since the singularity. And in the Qur'an he has explained all its stages. You see, the theory of the evolution of the Qur'an, according to God, completes all the shortcomings of other theories like Darwin. Therefore, the Qur'an speaks beyond science and all theories.

"God commanded it!" isn't an answer either- by definition, "this is a miracle" isn't an explanation, it's a placeholder for the absence of one. All you're doing here is the same thing creationists like Ken Ham have been doing for years, and that is to pretend that the lack of the answer you want from science- "God!"- is a shortcoming of that process, and then further pretend that your "answer" from a totally different process is an adequate substitute in the same terms. It's not, ok? Believe all you want about and from your religion, but stop pretending you can hijack a completely different system of thought to support it.

And "translating up to date" is also (to be kind) misleading- it's not "translating" to re-interpret what was meant in the language of an ancient text so it will line up with what has been discovered since it was written. You could as accurately do the same with this:
And then, in a twinkling, I heard on the roof
The prancing and pawing of each little hoof.
As I drew in my hand, and was turning around,
Down the chimney St. Nicholas came with a bound.
-to read:
And then, in a twinkling, I heard on the roof
The prancing and pawing of each little hoof of the quantum reindeer.
As I drew in my hand, and was turning around,
Down the chimney, with the infinite plasticity that is the nature of Santa, St. Nicholas came with a bound.
(Ok, it messes up the rhyme and the meter and all...)
Do you understand the point here? You cannot add to the language and still make an honest submission that it's only translation.
 
"God commanded it!" isn't an answer either- by definition, "this is a miracle" isn't an explanation, it's a placeholder for the absence of one. All you're doing here is the same thing creationists like Ken Ham have been doing for years, and that is to pretend that the lack of the answer you want from science- "God!"- is a shortcoming of that process, and then further pretend that your "answer" from a totally different process is an adequate substitute in the same terms. It's not, ok? Believe all you want about and from your religion, but stop pretending you can hijack a completely different system of thought to support it.

And "translating up to date" is also (to be kind) misleading- it's not "translating" to re-interpret what was meant in the language of an ancient text so it will line up with what has been discovered since it was written. You could as accurately do the same with this:

-to read:

(Ok, it messes up the rhyme and the meter and all...)
Do you understand the point here? You cannot add to the language and still make an honest submission that it's only translation.

Hello. To be honest: I respect all your opinions, friends. And I never intend to change your mind. And I never intend to instill my ideas in you. I only freely express my opinions. You have the right to read or not to read. Accept or not accept. There is no coercion and insistence. This is a free group for free conversation. Is it other than that?
 
See? Superstitious load of old bollocks. Go ahead and show where kilometers are mentioned in the koran. Or teleportation technology. Or Hawking. Or Roger Penrose. You cannot. Because you are merely changing what the koran actually says to what you want it to say. That is called blasphemy.

Hi
"Verses referring to modern teleportation technology in the Quran"
God refers to teleportation in the form of 4 stories in the Qur'an:
Verse 259 of Sura 2: It is a personal story called Uzair. He was a theist. He passes by a village with his donkey. He sees that all the villagers are dead. And their bones are in the ground. He says to God: How will these be resurrected in the Hereafter ?! God wants to show him the process of resurrection of the dead in the hereafter. By the command of God he dies.
He will be resurrected after a hundred years by the command of God! God asks how long have you not been? Says half a day or a day. God says: You were dead for a hundred years !! Look at your food and drink. It's healthy! While a hundred years have passed.! Look at your ass. He sees that the bone particles of the donkey's body are collected and the shape of the bone is corrected. It is then made on the bones of the flesh and skin and hair. The whole limb of the ass is straightened continuously. And the animal stands. Uzair says: O God, you are able and wise.
In this verse, two points can be examined. First: In fact, the time elapsed since this incident was half a day. Because his food and drink are not rotten. And has remained healthy. On the other hand, if his food and drink had been left for a hundred years, it would have been rotten. Secondly: The donkey carcass is completed by particle transfer according to the teleportation process. And the ass is recreated. Until Uzair sees this incident. And trust in the power and knowledge of God.
Verse 260 of Sura 2: This verse is said immediately after verse 259 of Sura 2 and here. To state the subject of teleportation more fully again. Abraham asks God. God, how do you do the quality of resurrection of the dead in the hereafter? God says: Do you not trust in my power and knowledge? He says yes, I'm sure. But my heart is not calm. I want to see. Let me make this point here: God and the prophets think realistically. Absolutely real and logical. Not idealism and fantasy.
God says: Bring 4 birds. Kill them. Beat their bodies. And mix it up perfectly! Then place each piece of this mixed corpse on the 4 peaks of the hill at a distance. Look now. Abraham sees the particles of the mixed flesh of the four birds coming together separately. And 4 birds are recreated separately. And by the command of God they are resurrected! Ibrahim says: God, you are omnipotent and wise. Here, too, God recreates the particles of the four birds according to the teleportation process.
Verse 1 of Sura 17: By the command of God Muhammad in a night which is known as the night of Ascension. It goes from Mecca to Al-Aqsa Mosque in one second! And returns! The distance between these two places is approximately 2500 km. Here, according to the teleportation process, a living object (Muhammad) travels 2500 km to God and returns in just one second. This event can only be justified through teleportation. It is not a miracle. Rather, this event was done with the knowledge and power of God.
Verse 40 of Sura 27: The story of Suleiman with the queen of the land of Sheba called Belquis. Suleiman was a godly man. And Queen Belquis, the king of Sheba, was an infidel. The distance from Suleiman country to Belquis country is approximately 1200 km. Suleiman invites him to worship God. Belquis moves with her army towards the country of Suleiman. Suleiman says to his ministers: I want you to bring the throne of Belquis here before he comes to our country.
Does anyone have such power? One of the ministers says: I will bring the throne before your eyelids close (less than a second)! Solomon sees that the throne of Belqis is in front of him! Here, too, according to teleportation technology, an inanimate object can travel 1,200 kilometers in less than a second.
These are 4 examples of teleportation technology that God has told us in the form of a story. Maybe these 4 events are just a story. God wants people to think by reading these 4 stories. Investigate. And discover the specific process and technology that occurred.) teleportation technology(
God does not say the principle of uncertainty, which is the detail of teleportation. It tells a story that can only happen through teleportation. And God's goal is for thinking scientists like you to think about it. And find out the cause of this event. And discover all the details of this science and technology. God manages to motivate and advance human beings. The power and knowledge of God do not need these stories. Only God wants humans to see and discover.
Thank you all
 
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