The supernatural

[Scorpion]

Muhammad PBUH does not need to accept you. Wake up your rabbit. Wake up yourself. Do not let them wake you up. Do not let them flatten you. By the way, I do not know Rashed Khalifa. None of my material is from what he said. You understood these well. But you have a prejudice to deny. it's up to you. Continuing your procedure will not be in your favor. You do not have the necessary resistance to damage. Not in your favor.
Your understanding is not as good as that of the educated Karen Armstrong. But I advised you to read his book. To find out who Muhammad is? Stop nonsense and lying. I saw your character better than this. But alas. You answer these few questions: What is the soul? What is the function of the soul? Where is the soul in the human body? Where does the soul go after human death? After answering these questions, tell your source and degree.

I remember you saying you loved me. I guess the honeymoon is over.

Rashad Khalifa is the one who invented the number 19 theory that you have quoted. He was killed for blasphemy for interpreting the Quran.

I do not need to read a biography of Muhammad written by some dumb blond like Karen Armstrong, because I have read enough hadiths to know Muhammad was a murdering bandit. He ordered savage killings in several hadiths.

The soul is the immortal and divine child of God that dwells in us all.
The souls consciousness is not in the human body, it is channeled down into the brain through the chakras in the etheric body.
After death the soul goes to the spirit world. Which it inhabits until seeking a new incarnation. Or until it reaches enlightenment. After which it remains in the spirit world as an immortal being.

 

[heydarian saeed]

I prefer the Bokononist version.



The first book of Bokonon, verses 2-4.

Hello. More is expected of you than what you wrote. Please give a scientific review for the scientific content of the Quran. I suggest ; Get help from relevant scientists. Examine carefully. And comment. I would like to comment on the continuation of the article "Evolution and Creation from the Perspective of the Qur'an".
Thanks

 

[IanS]

Thanks to God, I try to study and extract the scientific and up-to-date contents of the Qur'an in similar verses. And to interpret and interpret the Qur'an according to modern science.
And I try my best in this. My goal is to update the meaning and interpretation of the Qur'an. This is approved by God, the Prophet and our Imams.
Thanks

The words of the Koran are claimed by you to be the very words of God himself. Who are you, a mere earthly mortal, to decide that God could not get his own meaning clear in the Koran, such that you have decided to change Gods words for him!?? ...

... this is yet again a childishly naive subterfuge from you, which a 12 year could spot! ... even a 12 year-old could see that what has happened is that 21st century science has shown that your holy book is seriously wrong in almost everything it says, and your response to that is to claim the right to change it so that your new personal version says things that are closer to what we have since discovered from modern-day science ...

... but we were talking about how God created humans, and you were as always trying to avoid an honest answer to that (you could have easily just quoted the Koran, as you were asked to do), so -

- do you believe that humans evolved from earlier apes?

... just answer that Yes or No, there is no room there for all the rest of your pages of diversion and preaching ... it's a simple Yes or No question - do you accept that humans evolved from earlier apes, Yes or No?

- do you accept that Man (modern homo sapiens) only evolved from earlier ape ancestors about 250,000 years ago? Whereas, the age of the Earth (which was the time when God supposedly used some Mud to make the first human), is about 4.7 billion years old ... do you accept that 4.7billion year age of the Earth?

 

[Pixel42]

Hello. More is expected of you than what you wrote. Please give a scientific review for the scientific content of the Quran. I suggest ; Get help from relevant scientists. Examine carefully. And comment. I would like to comment on the continuation of the article "Evolution and Creation from the Perspective of the Qur'an".
Thanks

Sorry, I've wasted too much time on your nonsense already.

 

[heydarian saeed]

Why the hostility? You asked the question. Did you think that anybody in this forum would respond in the affirmative?

Hello. Welcome to our discussion. What if you mean my enmity with you dear teammates? No. I am not anyone's enemy. And I have not been angry with anyone until I was 50 years old. Enmity and anger with anyone is not defined for me. I love all human beings and all beings in the universe. And I'm proud of God's creation. And well done. I do not see any defect in his creation. Everyone is lovely. Even the scorpion that only insults me and my prophet and my holy book and my God. I forgive him. And I leave it to God. He has forgotten that, as he says, he and I only accept God in this group.
scorpion belief in God is more important than anything. And I thank God.
I'm worried about his health. We are all under surveillance. I do not want anyone to be harmed. Even scorpion.

 

[heydarian saeed]

Sorry, I've wasted too much time on your nonsense already.

Glad you came again and I met you again. take it easy. The world is small. And we have little time. We must live together in peace and tranquility. I am in Iran on this side of the world and you are on the other side of the world in Canada or .... It is important that we do not think like children. God has given us wisdom. And the power of choice and love. Which is most important. These are our three points to all beings in the universe. I love you all.
Thank you so much for taking the time for me.

 

[Scorpion]

Your worries are useless. There is no hell. As you think.

If there is no hell why does the Quran say there is, over and over again?
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002.206 When it is said to him, "Fear God", He is led by arrogance to (more)
crime. Enough for him is Hell;-An evil bed indeed (To lie on)!

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003.012 Say to those who reject Faith: "Soon will ye be vanquished and gathered
together to Hell,-an evil bed indeed (to lie on)!

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003.162 Is the man who follows the good pleasure of God Like the man who draws
on himself the wrath of God, and whose abode is in Hell?- A woeful refuge!

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003.197 Little is it for enjoyment: Their ultimate abode is Hell: what an evil
bed (To lie on)!

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004.055 Some of them believed, and some of them averted their faces from him:
And enough is Hell for a burning fire.

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004.093 If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to
abide therein (For ever): And the wrath and the curse of God are upon him, and a
dreadful penalty is prepared for him.

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004.097 When angels take the souls of those who die in sin against their souls,
they say: "In what (plight) Were ye?" They reply: "Weak and oppressed Were we in
the earth." They say: "Was not the earth of God spacious enough for you to move
yourselves
away (From evil)?" Such men will find their abode in Hell,- What an evil
refuge! -

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004.115 If anyone contends with the Apostle even after guidance has been plainly
conveyed to him, and follows a path other than that becoming to men of Faith, We
shall leave him in the path he has chosen, and land him in Hell,- what an evil
refuge!

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004.121 They (his dupes) will have their dwelling in Hell, and from it they will
find no way of escape.

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004.140 Already has He sent you Word in the Book, that when ye hear the signs of
God held in defiance and ridicule, ye are not to sit with them unless they turn
to a different theme: if ye did, ye would be like them. For God will collect the
hypocrites
and those who defy faith - all in Hell:-

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004.169 Except the way of Hell, to dwell therein for ever. And this to God is
easy.

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005.010 Those who reject faith and deny our signs will be companions of
Hell-fire.

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005.086 But those who reject Faith and belie our Signs,- they shall be
companions of Hell-fire.

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007.018 (God) said: "Get out from this, disgraced and expelled. If any of them
follow thee,- Hell will I fill with you all.

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007.041 For them there is Hell, as a couch (below) and folds and folds of
covering above: such is Our requital of those who do wrong.

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007.179 Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts
wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith
they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless
(of warning).

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008.016 If any do turn his back to them on such a day - unless it be in a
stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own)- he draws on himself the
wrath of God, and his abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed)!

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008.036 The Unbelievers spend their wealth to hinder (man) from the path of God,
and so will they continue to spend; but in the end they will have (only) regrets
and sighs; at length they will be overcome: and the Unbelievers will be gathered
together
to Hell;-

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008.037 In order that God may separate the impure from the pure, put the impure,
one on another, heap them together, and cast them into Hell. They will be the
ones to have lost.

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009.035 On the Day when heat will be produced out of that (wealth) in the fire
of Hell, and with it will be branded their foreheads, their flanks, and their
backs, their flanks, and their backs.- "This is the (treasure) which ye buried
for yourselves:
taste ye, then, the (treasures) ye buried!"

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009.049 Among them is (many) a man who says: "Grant me exemption and draw me
not into trial." Have they not fallen into trial already? and indeed Hell
surrounds the Unbelievers (on all sides).

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009.063 Know they not that for those who oppose God and His Apostle, is the Fire
of Hell?- wherein they shall dwell. That is the supreme disgrace.

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009.068 God hath promised the Hypocrites men and women, and the rejecters, of
Faith, the fire of Hell: Therein shall they dwell: Sufficient is it for them: for
them is the curse of God, and an enduring punishment,-

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009.073 O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and
be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed.

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009.081 Those who were left behind (in the Tabuk expedition) rejoiced in their
inaction behind the back of the Apostle of God: they hated to strive and fight,
with their goods and their persons, in the cause of God: they said, "Go not
forth in the hea
t." Say, "The fire of Hell is fiercer in heat." If only they could understand!

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009.095 They will swear to you by God, when ye return to them, that ye may leave
them alone. So leave them alone: For they are an abomination, and Hell is their
dwelling-place,-a fitting recompense for the (evil) that they did.

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009.109 Which then is best? - he that layeth his foundation on piety to God and
His good pleasure? - or he that layeth his foundation on an undermined
sand-cliff ready to crumble to pieces? and it doth crumble to pieces with him,
into the fire of Hell.
And God guideth not people that do wrong.

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011.119 Except those on whom thy Lord hath bestowed His Mercy: and for this did
He create them: and the Word of thy Lord shall be fulfilled: "I will fill Hell
with jinns and men all together."

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013.018 For those who respond to their Lord, are (all) good things. But those
who respond not to Him,- Even if they had all that is in the heavens and on
earth, and as much more, (in vain) would they offer it for ransom. For them will
the reckoning be
terrible: their abode will be Hell,- what a bed of misery!

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014.016 In front of such a one is Hell, and he is given, for drink, boiling
fetid water.

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014.029 Into Hell? They will burn therein,- an evil place to stay in!

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014.030 And they set up (idols) as equal to God, to mislead (men) from the Path!
Say: "Enjoy (your brief power)! But verily ye are making straightway for Hell!"

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015.043 And verily, Hell is the promised abode for them all!

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016.029 "So enter the gates of Hell, to dwell therein. Thus evil indeed is the
abode of the arrogant."

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017.008 It may be that your Lord may (yet) show Mercy unto you; but if ye revert
(to your sins), We shall revert (to Our punishments): And we have made Hell a
prison for those who reject (all Faith).

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017.018 If any do wish for the transitory things (of this life), We readily
grant them - such things as We will, to such person as We will: in the end have
We provided Hell for them: they will burn therein, disgraced and rejected.

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017.039 These are among the (precepts of) wisdom, which thy Lord has revealed to
thee. Take not, with God, another object of worship, lest thou shouldst be
thrown into Hell, blameworthy and rejected.

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017.063 (God) said: "Go thy way; if any of them follow thee, verily Hell will be
the recompense of you (all)- an ample recompense.

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017.097 It is he whom God guides, that is on true Guidance; but he whom He
leaves astray - for such wilt thou find no protector besides Him. On the Day of
Judgment We shall gather, them together, prone on their faces, blind, dumb, and
deaf: their abode
will be Hell: every time it shows abatement, We shall increase from them the
fierceness of the Fire.

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018.100 And We shall present Hell that day for Unbelievers to see, all spread
out,-

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018.102 Do the Unbelievers think that they can take My servants as protectors
besides Me? Verily We have prepared Hell for the Unbelievers for (their)
entertainment.

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018.106 That is their reward, Hell, because they rejected Faith, and took My
Signs and My Messengers by way of jest.

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019.068 So, by thy Lord, without doubt, We shall gather them together, and
(also) the Evil Ones (with them); then shall We bring them forth on their knees
round about Hell;

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019.086 And We shall drive the sinners to Hell, like thirsty cattle driven down
to water,-

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020.074 Verily he who comes to his Lord as a sinner (at Judgment),- for him is
Hell: therein shall he neither die nor live.

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021.029 If any of them should say, "I am a god besides Him", such a one We
should reward with Hell: thus do We reward those who do wrong.

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021.098 Verily ye, (unbelievers), and the (false) gods that ye worship besides
God, are (but) fuel for Hell! to it will ye (surely) come!

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021.102 Not the slightest sound will they hear of Hell: what their souls
desired, in that will they dwell.

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022.072 When Our Clear Signs are rehearsed to them, thou wilt notice a denial on
the faces of the Unbelievers! they nearly attack with violence those who
rehearse Our Signs to them. Say, "Shall I tell you of something (far) worse than
these Signs? It i
s the Fire (of Hell)! God has promised it to the Unbelievers! and evil is that
destination!"

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023.103 But those whose balance is light, will be those who have lost their
souls, in Hell will they abide.

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025.034 Those who will be gathered to Hell (prone) on their faces,- they will be
in an evil plight, and, as to Path, most astray.

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025.065 Those who say, "Our Lord! avert from us the Wrath of Hell, for its Wrath
is indeed an affliction grievous,-

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029.054 They ask thee to hasten on the Punishment: but, of a surety, Hell will
encompass the Rejecters of Faith!-

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029.068 And who does more wrong than he who invents a lie against God or rejects
the Truth when it reaches him? Is there not a home in Hell for those who reject
Faith?

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032.013 If We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true
guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, "I will fill Hell with Jinns and
men all together."

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035.036 But those who reject (God) - for them will be the Fire of Hell: No term
shall be determined for them, so they should die, nor shall its Penalty be
lightened for them. Thus do We reward every ungrateful one!

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036.063 "This is the Hell of which ye were (repeatedly) warned!

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037.064 For it is a tree that springs out of the bottom of Hell-Fire:

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038.027 Not without purpose did We create heaven and earth and all between! that
were the thought of Unbelievers! but woe to the Unbelievers because of the Fire
(of Hell)!

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038.056 Hell!- they will burn therein, - an evil bed (indeed, to lie on)!-

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038.085 "That I will certainly fill Hell with thee and those that follow thee,-
every one."

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039.032 Who, then, doth more wrong than one who utters a lie concerning God, and
rejects the Truth when it comes to him; is there not in Hell an abode for
blasphemers?

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039.060 On the Day of Judgment wilt thou see those who told lies against God;-
their faces will be turned black; Is there not in Hell an abode for the Haughty?

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039.071 The Unbelievers will be led to Hell in crowd: until, when they arrive,
there, its gates will be opened. And its keepers will say, "Did not apostles
come to you from among yourselves, rehearsing to you the Signs of your Lord, and
warning you of
the Meeting of This Day of yours?" The answer will be: "True: but the Decree of
Punishment has been proved true against the Unbelievers!"

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039.072 (To them) will be said: "Enter ye the gates of Hell, to dwell therein:
and evil is (this) Abode of the Arrogant!"

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040.049 Those in the Fire will say to the Keepers of Hell: "Pray to your Lord to
lighten us the Penalty for a day (at least)!"

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040.060 And your Lord says: "Call on Me; I will answer your (Prayer): but those
who are too arrogant to serve Me will surely find themselves in Hell - in
humiliation!"

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040.076 "Enter ye the gates of Hell, to dwell therein: and evil is (this) abode
of the arrogant!"

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043.074 The sinners will be in the Punishment of Hell, to dwell therein (for
aye):

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045.010 In front of them is Hell: and of no profit to them is anything they may
have earned, nor any protectors they may have taken to themselves besides God:
for them is a tremendous Penalty.

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048.006 And that He may punish the Hypocrites, men and women, and the
Polytheists men and women, who imagine an evil opinion of God. On them is a round
of Evil: the Wrath of God is on them: He has cursed them and got Hell ready for
them: and evil is i
t for a destination.

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050.024 (The sentence will be "Throw, throw into Hell every contumacious
Rejecter (of God)!-

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050.030 One Day We will ask Hell, "Art thou filled to the full?" It will say,
"Are there any more (to come)?"

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052.013 That Day shall they be thrust down to the Fire of Hell, irresistibly.

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054.048 The Day they will be dragged through the Fire on their faces, (they will
hear "Taste ye the touch of Hell!"

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055.043 This is the Hell which the Sinners deny:

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056.094 And burning in Hell-Fire.

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057.019 And those who believe in God and His apostles- they are the Sincere
(lovers of Truth), and the witnesses (who testify), in the eyes of their Lord:
They shall have their Reward and their Light. But those who reject God and deny
Our Signs,- they
are the Companions of Hell-Fire.

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058.008 Turnest thou not thy sight towards those who were forbidden secret
counsels yet revert to that which they were forbidden (to do)? And they hold
secret counsels among themselves for iniquity and hostility, and disobedience to
the Apostle. And w
hen they come to thee, they salute thee, not as God salutes thee, (but in crooked
ways): And they say to themselves, "Why does not God punish us for our words?"
Enough for them is Hell: In it will they burn, and evil is that destination!

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066.009 O Prophet! Strive hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and
be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed).

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067.006 For those who reject their Lord (and Cherisher) is the Penalty of Hell:
and evil is (such), Destination.

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070.015 By no means! for it would be the Fire of Hell!-

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072.015 'But those who swerve,- they are (but) fuel for Hell-fire'-

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072.023 "Unless I proclaim what I receive from God and His Messages: for any
that disobey God and His Apostle,- for them is Hell: they shall dwell therein
for ever."

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074.026 Soon will I cast him into Hell-Fire!

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074.027 And what will explain to thee what Hell-Fire is?

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074.042 "What led you into Hell Fire?"

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078.021 Truly Hell is as a place of ambush,

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079.036 And Hell-Fire shall be placed in full view for (all) to see,-

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079.039 The Abode will be Hell-Fire;

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083.016 Further, they will enter the Fire of Hell.

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085.010 Those who persecute (or draw into temptation) the Believers, men and
women, and do not turn in repentance, will have the Penalty of Hell: They will
have the Penalty of the Burning Fire.

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089.023 And Hell, that Day, is brought (face to face),- on that Day will man
remember, but how will that remembrance profit him?

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098.006 Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the
Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst
of creatures.

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102.006 Ye shall certainly see Hell-Fire!

 

[abaddon]

Hello. More is expected of you than what you wrote. Please give a scientific review for the scientific content of the Quran. I suggest ; Get help from relevant scientists. Examine carefully. And comment. I would like to comment on the continuation of the article "Evolution and Creation from the Perspective of the Qur'an".
Thanks

Where does the quran describe the Higgs boson?

Chapter and verse please.

Of course, you will ignore this, as expected.

 

[Scorpion]

Heydarian, After seeing my last post Do you deny there is a hellfire?

Mods, please excuse my long list of Quran quotes, but I am making an important point.

 

[abaddon]

Sorry, I've wasted too much time on your nonsense already.

It's the fascination of horror. Or a car wreck. It's hard to look away.

 

[abaddon]

Heydarian, After seeing my last post Do you deny there is a hellfire?

Mods, please excuse my long list of Quran quotes, but I am making an important point.

I'm guessing that you are in the clear. It is relevant. Even the volume of it makes a point in and of itself, let alone if one actually reads what the quran really says.

 

[Pixel42]

I am in Iran on this side of the world and you are on the other side of the world in Canada or ....

My location is given under my avatar. Malmesbury, in the UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmesbury

It is important that we do not think like children.

Then stop doing so.

I've been an atheist since I was twelve. That was when I "put away childish things".

 

[abaddon]

Glad you came again and I met you again. take it easy.

Take it easy? When you are wasting everyone's time with this garbage?

The world is small.

Oh sure. Tell us all the size of the earth. We could use a laugh.

And we have little time.

Because the apocalypse is just around the corner same as the last 2000 years

We must live together in peace and tranquility.

Not according to your magic book. According to your magic book we should all be busily killing each other

I am in Iran on this side of the world and you are on the other side of the world in Canada or ....

I know where Pixel is. It ain't Canada. Anyone paying the slightest attention would know that already.

It is important that we do not think like children.

Then stop doing it. My own kids chucked out the whole god malarkey spontaneously without prompting.

God has given us wisdom. And the power of choice and love. Which is most important. These are our three points to all beings in the universe. I love you all.
Thank you so much for taking the time for me.

Nope. God did nothing, gave us nothing and is nothing.

 

[heydarian saeed]

The words of the Koran are claimed by you to be the very words of God himself. Who are you, a mere earthly mortal, to decide that God could not get his own meaning clear in the Koran, such that you have decided to change Gods words for him!?? ...

... this is yet again a childishly naive subterfuge from you, which a 12 year could spot! ... even a 12 year-old could see that what has happened is that 21st century science has shown that your holy book is seriously wrong in almost everything it says, and your response to that is to claim the right to change it so that your new personal version says things that are closer to what we have since discovered from modern-day science ...

... but we were talking about how God created humans, and you were as always trying to avoid an honest answer to that (you could have easily just quoted the Koran, as you were asked to do), so -

- do you believe that humans evolved from earlier apes?

... just answer that Yes or No, there is no room there for all the rest of your pages of diversion and preaching ... it's a simple Yes or No question - do you accept that humans evolved from earlier apes, Yes or No?

- do you accept that Man (modern homo sapiens) only evolved from earlier ape ancestors about 250,000 years ago? Whereas, the age of the Earth (which was the time when God supposedly used some Mud to make the first human), is about 4.7 billion years old ... do you accept that 4.7billion year age of the Earth?

1- No. I do not want to change the word of God.
This is a great sin. And its ruling is takfir. I just want to study modern science in the Qur'an. And to interpret and interpret the Qur'an up to date. This is a valuable work. And it is not against the word of God. And God loves it. The Qur'an must come out of scientific abandonment.
2 - I see the negotiation between you. I understand that teaching religion in your schools is forbidden. My opinion is: this is a very good approach. And I totally agree. Because the child's mind is very ready to accept any subject. If a child is taught superstitious and false religious material.
A terrible tragedy has happened. First, we have taken the child's freedom. And we have destroyed his trust. He has accepted religion as an imitation-compulsion and prejudice. And this is very bad and ugly. Until he reaches the age of intellectual maturity, he may accept.
That's too bad. Or when he reaches the age of diagnosis. He rejects everyone. And suffers from mental disorders. And we have committed a great betrayal of the child. So your education system for schools and children is approved by me. And I totally agree. (teaching religion in your schools is forbidden.- ok) Well, I think we are in this group, we are not -18 years old. And all their ages are +40! So there is apparently no problem with religious debates in this group.
3- I will tell you about the creation and evolution of human beings and all living beings from the Qur'an and its verses. If you allow. And do not fill your time with different questions. Let me tell you my article. To be enlightened by the Qur'an.
4- We do not have in the Qur'an that man evolved from ape. From the Qur'anic point of view, human evolution is in 4 stages. And it is the special opinion of the Qur'an. Which I will fully explain to you in my article.
5- We accept the age of the earth. But human evolution began when matter came into being. That is, the logic of the Qur'an is that: The evolution of man and all living beings began from the time of the "Planck range". That is, long before the creation and life of the earth.
It may be very hard for you to believe this. But this is the logic of the Qur'an and us. Since the creation of matter, God has been planning all the needs of living things. And evolution begins. Read my article.

 

[Mojo]

I have no idea why you change the words "abiogenesis theory" into "THE theory of abiogenesis".

It might have been because you actually wrote, “The abiogenesis theory”.

But what abaddon actually posted was ‘There is no "theory of abiogenesis".’

 

[Scorpion]

1- No. I do not want to change the word of God.
This is a great sin. And its ruling is takfir. I just want to study modern science in the Qur'an. And to interpret and interpret the Qur'an up to date. This is a valuable work. And it is not against the word of God. And God loves it.

How do you know God loves what you are doing????

 

[heydarian saeed]

If there is no hell why does the Quran say there is, over and over again?
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002.206 When it is said to him, "Fear God", He is led by arrogance to (more)
crime. Enough for him is Hell;-An evil bed indeed (To lie on)!

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003.012 Say to those who reject Faith: "Soon will ye be vanquished and gathered
together to Hell,-an evil bed indeed (to lie on)!

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003.162 Is the man who follows the good pleasure of God Like the man who draws
on himself the wrath of God, and whose abode is in Hell?- A woeful refuge!

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003.197 Little is it for enjoyment: Their ultimate abode is Hell: what an evil
bed (To lie on)!

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004.055 Some of them believed, and some of them averted their faces from him:
And enough is Hell for a burning fire.

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004.093 If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to
abide therein (For ever): And the wrath and the curse of God are upon him, and a
dreadful penalty is prepared for him.

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004.097 When angels take the souls of those who die in sin against their souls,
they say: "In what (plight) Were ye?" They reply: "Weak and oppressed Were we in
the earth." They say: "Was not the earth of God spacious enough for you to move
yourselves
away (From evil)?" Such men will find their abode in Hell,- What an evil
refuge! -

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004.115 If anyone contends with the Apostle even after guidance has been plainly
conveyed to him, and follows a path other than that becoming to men of Faith, We
shall leave him in the path he has chosen, and land him in Hell,- what an evil
refuge!

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004.121 They (his dupes) will have their dwelling in Hell, and from it they will
find no way of escape.

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004.140 Already has He sent you Word in the Book, that when ye hear the signs of
God held in defiance and ridicule, ye are not to sit with them unless they turn
to a different theme: if ye did, ye would be like them. For God will collect the
hypocrites
and those who defy faith - all in Hell:-

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004.169 Except the way of Hell, to dwell therein for ever. And this to God is
easy.

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005.010 Those who reject faith and deny our signs will be companions of
Hell-fire.

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005.086 But those who reject Faith and belie our Signs,- they shall be
companions of Hell-fire.

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007.018 (God) said: "Get out from this, disgraced and expelled. If any of them
follow thee,- Hell will I fill with you all.

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007.041 For them there is Hell, as a couch (below) and folds and folds of
covering above: such is Our requital of those who do wrong.

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007.179 Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts
wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith
they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless
(of warning).

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008.016 If any do turn his back to them on such a day - unless it be in a
stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own)- he draws on himself the
wrath of God, and his abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed)!

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008.036 The Unbelievers spend their wealth to hinder (man) from the path of God,
and so will they continue to spend; but in the end they will have (only) regrets
and sighs; at length they will be overcome: and the Unbelievers will be gathered
together
to Hell;-

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008.037 In order that God may separate the impure from the pure, put the impure,
one on another, heap them together, and cast them into Hell. They will be the
ones to have lost.

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009.035 On the Day when heat will be produced out of that (wealth) in the fire
of Hell, and with it will be branded their foreheads, their flanks, and their
backs, their flanks, and their backs.- "This is the (treasure) which ye buried
for yourselves:
taste ye, then, the (treasures) ye buried!"

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009.049 Among them is (many) a man who says: "Grant me exemption and draw me
not into trial." Have they not fallen into trial already? and indeed Hell
surrounds the Unbelievers (on all sides).

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009.063 Know they not that for those who oppose God and His Apostle, is the Fire
of Hell?- wherein they shall dwell. That is the supreme disgrace.

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009.068 God hath promised the Hypocrites men and women, and the rejecters, of
Faith, the fire of Hell: Therein shall they dwell: Sufficient is it for them: for
them is the curse of God, and an enduring punishment,-

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009.073 O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and
be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed.

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009.081 Those who were left behind (in the Tabuk expedition) rejoiced in their
inaction behind the back of the Apostle of God: they hated to strive and fight,
with their goods and their persons, in the cause of God: they said, "Go not
forth in the hea
t." Say, "The fire of Hell is fiercer in heat." If only they could understand!

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009.095 They will swear to you by God, when ye return to them, that ye may leave
them alone. So leave them alone: For they are an abomination, and Hell is their
dwelling-place,-a fitting recompense for the (evil) that they did.

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009.109 Which then is best? - he that layeth his foundation on piety to God and
His good pleasure? - or he that layeth his foundation on an undermined
sand-cliff ready to crumble to pieces? and it doth crumble to pieces with him,
into the fire of Hell.
And God guideth not people that do wrong.

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011.119 Except those on whom thy Lord hath bestowed His Mercy: and for this did
He create them: and the Word of thy Lord shall be fulfilled: "I will fill Hell
with jinns and men all together."

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013.018 For those who respond to their Lord, are (all) good things. But those
who respond not to Him,- Even if they had all that is in the heavens and on
earth, and as much more, (in vain) would they offer it for ransom. For them will
the reckoning be
terrible: their abode will be Hell,- what a bed of misery!

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014.016 In front of such a one is Hell, and he is given, for drink, boiling
fetid water.

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014.029 Into Hell? They will burn therein,- an evil place to stay in!

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014.030 And they set up (idols) as equal to God, to mislead (men) from the Path!
Say: "Enjoy (your brief power)! But verily ye are making straightway for Hell!"

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015.043 And verily, Hell is the promised abode for them all!

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016.029 "So enter the gates of Hell, to dwell therein. Thus evil indeed is the
abode of the arrogant."

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017.008 It may be that your Lord may (yet) show Mercy unto you; but if ye revert
(to your sins), We shall revert (to Our punishments): And we have made Hell a
prison for those who reject (all Faith).

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017.018 If any do wish for the transitory things (of this life), We readily
grant them - such things as We will, to such person as We will: in the end have
We provided Hell for them: they will burn therein, disgraced and rejected.

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017.039 These are among the (precepts of) wisdom, which thy Lord has revealed to
thee. Take not, with God, another object of worship, lest thou shouldst be
thrown into Hell, blameworthy and rejected.

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017.063 (God) said: "Go thy way; if any of them follow thee, verily Hell will be
the recompense of you (all)- an ample recompense.

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017.097 It is he whom God guides, that is on true Guidance; but he whom He
leaves astray - for such wilt thou find no protector besides Him. On the Day of
Judgment We shall gather, them together, prone on their faces, blind, dumb, and
deaf: their abode
will be Hell: every time it shows abatement, We shall increase from them the
fierceness of the Fire.

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018.100 And We shall present Hell that day for Unbelievers to see, all spread
out,-

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018.102 Do the Unbelievers think that they can take My servants as protectors
besides Me? Verily We have prepared Hell for the Unbelievers for (their)
entertainment.

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018.106 That is their reward, Hell, because they rejected Faith, and took My
Signs and My Messengers by way of jest.

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019.068 So, by thy Lord, without doubt, We shall gather them together, and
(also) the Evil Ones (with them); then shall We bring them forth on their knees
round about Hell;

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019.086 And We shall drive the sinners to Hell, like thirsty cattle driven down
to water,-

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020.074 Verily he who comes to his Lord as a sinner (at Judgment),- for him is
Hell: therein shall he neither die nor live.

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021.029 If any of them should say, "I am a god besides Him", such a one We
should reward with Hell: thus do We reward those who do wrong.

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021.098 Verily ye, (unbelievers), and the (false) gods that ye worship besides
God, are (but) fuel for Hell! to it will ye (surely) come!

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021.102 Not the slightest sound will they hear of Hell: what their souls
desired, in that will they dwell.

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022.072 When Our Clear Signs are rehearsed to them, thou wilt notice a denial on
the faces of the Unbelievers! they nearly attack with violence those who
rehearse Our Signs to them. Say, "Shall I tell you of something (far) worse than
these Signs? It i
s the Fire (of Hell)! God has promised it to the Unbelievers! and evil is that
destination!"

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023.103 But those whose balance is light, will be those who have lost their
souls, in Hell will they abide.

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025.034 Those who will be gathered to Hell (prone) on their faces,- they will be
in an evil plight, and, as to Path, most astray.

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025.065 Those who say, "Our Lord! avert from us the Wrath of Hell, for its Wrath
is indeed an affliction grievous,-

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029.054 They ask thee to hasten on the Punishment: but, of a surety, Hell will
encompass the Rejecters of Faith!-

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029.068 And who does more wrong than he who invents a lie against God or rejects
the Truth when it reaches him? Is there not a home in Hell for those who reject
Faith?

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032.013 If We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true
guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, "I will fill Hell with Jinns and
men all together."

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035.036 But those who reject (God) - for them will be the Fire of Hell: No term
shall be determined for them, so they should die, nor shall its Penalty be
lightened for them. Thus do We reward every ungrateful one!

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036.063 "This is the Hell of which ye were (repeatedly) warned!

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037.064 For it is a tree that springs out of the bottom of Hell-Fire:

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038.027 Not without purpose did We create heaven and earth and all between! that
were the thought of Unbelievers! but woe to the Unbelievers because of the Fire
(of Hell)!

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038.056 Hell!- they will burn therein, - an evil bed (indeed, to lie on)!-

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038.085 "That I will certainly fill Hell with thee and those that follow thee,-
every one."

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039.032 Who, then, doth more wrong than one who utters a lie concerning God, and
rejects the Truth when it comes to him; is there not in Hell an abode for
blasphemers?

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039.060 On the Day of Judgment wilt thou see those who told lies against God;-
their faces will be turned black; Is there not in Hell an abode for the Haughty?

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039.071 The Unbelievers will be led to Hell in crowd: until, when they arrive,
there, its gates will be opened. And its keepers will say, "Did not apostles
come to you from among yourselves, rehearsing to you the Signs of your Lord, and
warning you of
the Meeting of This Day of yours?" The answer will be: "True: but the Decree of
Punishment has been proved true against the Unbelievers!"

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039.072 (To them) will be said: "Enter ye the gates of Hell, to dwell therein:
and evil is (this) Abode of the Arrogant!"

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040.049 Those in the Fire will say to the Keepers of Hell: "Pray to your Lord to
lighten us the Penalty for a day (at least)!"

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040.060 And your Lord says: "Call on Me; I will answer your (Prayer): but those
who are too arrogant to serve Me will surely find themselves in Hell - in
humiliation!"

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040.076 "Enter ye the gates of Hell, to dwell therein: and evil is (this) abode
of the arrogant!"

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043.074 The sinners will be in the Punishment of Hell, to dwell therein (for
aye):

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045.010 In front of them is Hell: and of no profit to them is anything they may
have earned, nor any protectors they may have taken to themselves besides God:
for them is a tremendous Penalty.

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048.006 And that He may punish the Hypocrites, men and women, and the
Polytheists men and women, who imagine an evil opinion of God. On them is a round
of Evil: the Wrath of God is on them: He has cursed them and got Hell ready for
them: and evil is i
t for a destination.

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050.024 (The sentence will be "Throw, throw into Hell every contumacious
Rejecter (of God)!-

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050.030 One Day We will ask Hell, "Art thou filled to the full?" It will say,
"Are there any more (to come)?"

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052.013 That Day shall they be thrust down to the Fire of Hell, irresistibly.

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054.048 The Day they will be dragged through the Fire on their faces, (they will
hear "Taste ye the touch of Hell!"

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055.043 This is the Hell which the Sinners deny:

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056.094 And burning in Hell-Fire.

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057.019 And those who believe in God and His apostles- they are the Sincere
(lovers of Truth), and the witnesses (who testify), in the eyes of their Lord:
They shall have their Reward and their Light. But those who reject God and deny
Our Signs,- they
are the Companions of Hell-Fire.

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058.008 Turnest thou not thy sight towards those who were forbidden secret
counsels yet revert to that which they were forbidden (to do)? And they hold
secret counsels among themselves for iniquity and hostility, and disobedience to
the Apostle. And w
hen they come to thee, they salute thee, not as God salutes thee, (but in crooked
ways): And they say to themselves, "Why does not God punish us for our words?"
Enough for them is Hell: In it will they burn, and evil is that destination!

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066.009 O Prophet! Strive hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and
be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed).

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067.006 For those who reject their Lord (and Cherisher) is the Penalty of Hell:
and evil is (such), Destination.

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070.015 By no means! for it would be the Fire of Hell!-

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072.015 'But those who swerve,- they are (but) fuel for Hell-fire'-

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072.023 "Unless I proclaim what I receive from God and His Messages: for any
that disobey God and His Apostle,- for them is Hell: they shall dwell therein
for ever."

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074.026 Soon will I cast him into Hell-Fire!

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074.027 And what will explain to thee what Hell-Fire is?

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074.042 "What led you into Hell Fire?"

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078.021 Truly Hell is as a place of ambush,

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079.036 And Hell-Fire shall be placed in full view for (all) to see,-

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079.039 The Abode will be Hell-Fire;

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083.016 Further, they will enter the Fire of Hell.

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085.010 Those who persecute (or draw into temptation) the Believers, men and
women, and do not turn in repentance, will have the Penalty of Hell: They will
have the Penalty of the Burning Fire.

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089.023 And Hell, that Day, is brought (face to face),- on that Day will man
remember, but how will that remembrance profit him?

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098.006 Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the
Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst
of creatures.

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102.006 Ye shall certainly see Hell-Fire!

You are not careful !! I have said to you and other friends many times: Hell and the torments of hell are just parables. In order for human beings not to approach sin. It is just a metaphor. Hell is singularity. The universe is back to this point. We all experience it. Why aren't you careful man? What are you worried about? It is the destiny of the universe to return to singularity.
You bother in vain. Rest.

 

[Scorpion]

You are not careful !! I have said to you and other friends many times: Hell and the torments of hell are just parables. In order for human beings not to approach sin. It is just a metaphor. Hell is singularity. The universe is back to this point. We all experience it. Why aren't you careful man? What are you worried about? It is the destiny of the universe to return to singularity.
You bother in vain. Rest.

You did not have to quote my lengthy post taking up another page, but it seems you deny all those verses.

You are denying a lot of what the Quran actually plainly says.

Who are you to deny these verses? I have told you extremist Muslims will not agree with you, and if you publish your work in Iran. I would use a pen name. Not your own name, so that they cannot easily find you.

 

[abaddon]

You are not careful !! I have said to you and other friends many times: Hell and the torments of hell are just parables. In order for human beings not to approach sin. It is just a metaphor. Hell is singularity. The universe is back to this point. We all experience it. Why aren't you careful man? What are you worried about? It is the destiny of the universe to return to singularity.
You bother in vain. Rest.

Oh so now you are claiming that the quran is merely made up junk and not even vaguely true, just a big bucket of pointless metaphors. OK.

 

[Scorpion]

Blasphemy laws in Iran.

As a Shi’a Islamic theocracy, Iran equally holds expressions of unsanctioned religious views and expressions of political dissent to be acts of blasphemy. Those arrested for blasphemy are generally charged with mofsed-e-filarz (“spreading corruption on earth”), a broadly defined crime capable of encompassing anything deemed undesirable by the state. There is no set penalty for such a wide-ranging crime, and punishments can run the gamut from a few months in jail to execution, with any prison sentence often supplemented by torture.
https://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/essays/national-laws-on-blasphemy-iran