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Cont: The Biden Presidency Part II

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As usual, the claims of the media loving Democrats continues to be pretty much the inverse of the truth. It only seems that way at all sometimes because the other main point for comparison on the spectrum in the US is far right loud Democrat demonizing.

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.co...egative-toward-biden-today-than-trump-in-2020

Yep, the media is for-profit. They will prefer a fascist government over a democratic one because of $$$.
 
The poorest people living in right wing hell states won't benefit because local government will intentionally torpedo the program.
Welcome to the United(?) States of America!

The answer is simple - turn those red states into blue states. Can't do that? Then don't complain, because the people in those states don't want what you are demanding.

In the 2020 election only 66% of eligible voters actually voted. Biden won those by a miserable 4%, hardly a clear mandate. Almost 50% of those who cared enough to vote didn't want what he was offering, and in many states it was more than 50%. But you would have the Federal government force policies onto those states who don't want it. Assuming Biden could have done it, what do you think the outcome would be? Yes, that's right - even more hatred towards the Federal government (and democrats in general).

If we keep ramping up the partisanship this country will not survive. Because you held out for all or nothing, you won't get any of the things you want. And it won't just be a few poor people in 'right wing hell states' that suffer.
 
Biden had another phone call with Putin today and expressed "deep concern" with the Ukraine situation.
IMHO Biden needs to spell out, now what the consequences will be if Putin invades the Ukraine. I fear Putin thinks Biden is weak, andother Neville Chamberlain.
 
Biden had another phone call with Putin today and expressed "deep concern" with the Ukraine situation.
IMHO Biden needs to spell out, now what the consequences will be if Putin invades the Ukraine. I fear Putin thinks Biden is weak, andother Neville Chamberlain.

What do you think those consequences would be?
 
What do you think those consequences would be?

Economic sanctions..tough ones.
Strip Russia of any favored nation status.
Sell Ukraine weapons.
In general make Putin's Russia a pariah state.
Guaranteed, if Putin gets away with this even more severe agression will follow.
 
Welcome to the United(?) States of America!

The answer is simple - turn those red states into blue states. Can't do that? Then don't complain, because the people in those states don't want what you are demanding.

In the 2020 election only 66% of eligible voters actually voted. Biden won those by a miserable 4%, hardly a clear mandate. Almost 50% of those who cared enough to vote didn't want what he was offering, and in many states it was more than 50%. But you would have the Federal government force policies onto those states who don't want it. Assuming Biden could have done it, what do you think the outcome would be? Yes, that's right - even more hatred towards the Federal government (and democrats in general).

If we keep ramping up the partisanship this country will not survive. Because you held out for all or nothing, you won't get any of the things you want. And it won't just be a few poor people in 'right wing hell states' that suffer.

Well..
Americans say 57 - 40 percent that they support a $3.5 trillion spending bill on social programs such as child care, education, family tax breaks, and expanding Medicare for seniors, compared to 62 - 32 percent support in August. In today's poll, Democrats support the bill 92 - 5 percent, independents are split with 50 percent supporting it and 48 percent opposing it, and Republicans oppose it 68 - 28 percent.

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3823
 
IMHO Biden needs to spell out, now what the consequences will be if Putin invades the Ukraine.
Option 2: Don't wait. Those images show the Russian hardware parked in neat dense clusters, perfect for efficient bombing.
 
Option 2: Don't wait. Those images show the Russian hardware parked in neat dense clusters, perfect for efficient bombing.

Not sure how escalating the risk of nuclear exchange helps Ukraine in the long run.

Russia isn't some piss-poor country we can just bomb safely from afar.
 
Not sure how escalating the risk of nuclear exchange helps Ukraine in the long run.

Russia isn't some piss-poor country we can just bomb safely from afar.

True, but it's not that big an economy so it could be a country which the US and its allies could crush economically.
 
True, but it's not that big an economy so it could be a country which the US and its allies could crush economically.

Sure. Doubt it will matter much. The mafia state has firm hold of power, no matter how much sanctions punish the population. The wealthy kleptocrats will find it a bit annoying to no longer be able to move their vast fortunes in dollars, but I really doubt sanctions will be very effective.
 
Sure. Doubt it will matter much. The mafia state has firm hold of power, no matter how much sanctions punish the population. The wealthy kleptocrats will find it a bit annoying to no longer be able to move their vast fortunes in dollars, but I really doubt sanctions will be very effective.

Moscow needs significant sums of money to fund any military adventures in Ukraine. Putting a significant financial squeeze on now will pay off in the medium term.

It may also have a "double bubble" benefit of turning people away from Russian gas and persuading them to use US gas instead.
 
Moscow needs significant sums of money to fund any military adventures in Ukraine. Putting a significant financial squeeze on now will pay off in the medium term.

It may also have a "double bubble" benefit of turning people away from Russian gas and persuading them to use US gas instead.

I'm sure the EU will be thrilled to pay more for gas. Are they on board with tightening the belt to punish Russia?
 
Biden admin bends the knee to neo-McCarthyism

Saule Omarova, a Cornell Law School professor whom critics painted as a communist after President Biden picked her for a key banking regulator job, withdrew from consideration for the post on Tuesday.

In a letter to the White House, Ms. Omarova said it was “no longer tenable” for her to seek the position of comptroller of the currency. Mr. Biden, who said Ms. Omarova had “lived the American dream” by escaping her birthplace in the former Soviet Union and serving the United States, accepted her request.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/07/business/saule-omarova-occ-nomination.html

Ms. Omarova faced months of criticism from Republicans and bank lobbyists who cast her as a threat to the American economy.

Color me shocked, reactionary and big business interests aligned.
 
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I'm sure the EU will be thrilled to pay more for gas. Are they on board with tightening the belt to punish Russia?

Depends on how far East you go. The Baltic states and Poland are probably feeling very twitchy about things and would be willing to go along. Most of Southern Europe, The Netherlands and Scandinavia doesn't give a stuff so it comes down to whether France and Germany can overrule.
 
Ever since Roosevelt's Hundred Days, people have been expecting -- hell, demanding -- that a new Democratic Prez sweep in like the White* Tornado and burst open every damn thing. Doesn't matter that today isn't by a VERY long shot 1933.

* Or coffee-colored, as in the case of Obama.
 
Biden gives people money and "it did not help at all" say those that got a nice sum
Democrats say the child tax credit has a particularly large impact on low-income families for whom the additional funds have been crucial. A recent study from Columbia University found that those monthly payments kept 3.6 million children out of poverty in October.

In the NPR/Marist survey, almost 6-in-10 eligible households said they received the child tax credit. But the 59% of eligible respondents is far below the number of families that the government expects should be getting funds. The IRS estimated earlier this year that the families of 88% of children in the U.S. would be eligible for the payments and 35 million families received them in September.

The disconnect between the government figures and respondents' answers is a perception and credit problem for Biden and Democrats.

Even among those who did recall receiving the tax credit, two-thirds said it only helped a little and 1-in-5 said it didn't help at all.
https://www.npr.org/2021/12/09/1062...en-democrats-infrastructure-build-back-better

link to poll there
includes:
17% of adults say they received the $300 monthly per-child payment including 59% of parents with children under 18, and, among them, a majority say the payments have helped either “a little” (64%) or “a lot” (15%).
 
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The "two Santas" theory of U.S. politics:
First, the Two Santas strategy dictates, when Republicans control the White House they must spend money like a drunken Santa and cut taxes to run up the US debt as far and as fast as possible.

This produces three results: it stimulates the economy thus making people think that the GOP can produce a good economy; it raises the debt dramatically; and it makes people think that Republicans are the “tax-cut Santa Clauses.”

Second, when a Democrat is in the White House, Republicans must scream about the national debt as loudly and frantically as possible, freaking out about how “our children will have to pay for it!” and “we have to cut spending to solve the crisis!” Shut down the government, crash the stock market, and damage US credibility around the world if necessary to stop Democrats from spending money.

This will force the Democrats in power to cut their own social safety net programs and even Social Security, thus shooting their welfare-of-the-American-people Santa Claus right in the face.

And, sure enough, here we are now with a Democrat in the White House. Following their Two Santas strategy, Republicans are again squealing about the national debt and refusing to raise the debt ceiling, imperiling Biden’s economic recovery as well as his Build Back Better plans.
https://hartmannreport.com/p/santa-clause-is-about-to-drop-a-bomb
 
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