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MRC_Hans said:
The eternal theological paradox: If God wants people to believe, he will surely know how to do it. He will not need to depend on various mortals to spread the gospel.



Actually, during medieval ages, the Arabic countries were relatively advanced in most sciences. And also in religious tolerance. Then they fell behind, or perhaps just got stuck where they were. However, you are right in one way: If the Quran held scientific secrets, scientists everywhere in the world would be going through it with a fine comb to find them, and it would be in the sources list for a great many science articles.

Hans
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Oh I'm not denying that historical fact, but that was just humans doing human science based upon what was known by the Greeks, Romans and Indians. The Muslim world was in an ideal place to combine those ideas.
But none of that came from the Quran.
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
Oh I'm not denying that historical fact, but that was just humans doing human science based upon what was known by the Greeks, Romans and Indians. The Muslim world was in an ideal place to combine those ideas.
But none of that came from the Quran.
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Sure. I quite agree.
Hans
 
Lothian said:
Heydarian,

Can I suggest as a follow up you explain how everything we know about respiratory diseases in marsupials can be found in " The very hungry caterpillar" by Eric Carle.

I can't believe you would find worse links there than you have between the words in the Qur'an and sub atomic physics
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Hello. I did not understand the first part of your speech. Please be clear about what you mean. Thanks
 
Hello to all friends.
The word angels is mentioned 68 times in the Qur'an. And he did not say anything about their gender and name. He only mentioned their duty. Except for Gabriel, Michael, Israfil, and Azrael, who are the main agents of God. Only the names of Gabriel (3 times) and Michal (once) are mentioned in the Qur'an. But he never used the word angels for them.
Our logic is only the Quran. And the Qur'an does not say superstitions. And categorically rejects it. I would like to draw your attention to the following 4 verses. Which shows that angels are not female or girl. Verse 1 of Sura 35 says exactly that: Angels are forces and energies. And 4 are the laws of physics in nature.

37/150: Did We create the angels as women? And they were witnesses ?!
53/27: In fact, those who do not believe in the Hereafter name the angels as women in naming!

43/19: And the angels who are the servants of God, the Merciful. They considered them women [and daughters of God]! Were they present at the time of their creation? His testimony will be written soon. And they will be asked?
40/17: Have you considered that your Lord has given you sons? And he hath taken from the angels daughters, verily you say a great word. (You are telling a big lie)
We must avoid superstitions. Fill our minds with beautiful content.
 
heydarian saeed said:
Hello. I did not understand the first part of your speech. Please be clear about what you mean. Thanks
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He's saying that your attempts to find modern scientific knowledge in the Qur'an are as ridiculous, and unsuccessful, as an attempt to find one particular piece of scientific knowledge in one particular children's story would be.

And he's right.
 
heydarian saeed said:
Hello to all friends.
The word angels is mentioned 68 times in the Qur'an. And he did not say anything about their gender and name. He only mentioned their duty. Except for Gabriel, Michael, Israfil, and Azrael, who are the main agents of God. Only the names of Gabriel (3 times) and Michal (once) are mentioned in the Qur'an. But he never used the word angels for them.
Our logic is only the Quran. And the Qur'an does not say superstitions. And categorically rejects it. I would like to draw your attention to the following 4 verses. Which shows that angels are not female or girl. Verse 1 of Sura 35 says exactly that: Angels are forces and energies. And 4 are the laws of physics in nature.

37/150: Did We create the angels as women? And they were witnesses ?!
53/27: In fact, those who do not believe in the Hereafter name the angels as women in naming!

43/19: And the angels who are the servants of God, the Merciful. They considered them women [and daughters of God]! Were they present at the time of their creation? His testimony will be written soon. And they will be asked?
40/17: Have you considered that your Lord has given you sons? And he hath taken from the angels daughters, verily you say a great word. (You are telling a big lie)
We must avoid superstitions. Fill our minds with beautiful content.
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The Quran is not beautiful, it is hateful and filled with violence and cruelty.
 
heydarian saeed said:
Hello to all friends.
The word angels is mentioned 68 times in the Qur'an. And he did not say anything about their gender and name. He only mentioned their duty. Except for Gabriel, Michael, Israfil, and Azrael, who are the main agents of God. Only the names of Gabriel (3 times) and Michal (once) are mentioned in the Qur'an. But he never used the word angels for them.
Our logic is only the Quran. And the Qur'an does not say superstitions. And categorically rejects it. I would like to draw your attention to the following 4 verses. Which shows that angels are not female or girl. Verse 1 of Sura 35 says exactly that: Angels are forces and energies. And 4 are the laws of physics in nature.

37/150: Did We create the angels as women? And they were witnesses ?!
53/27: In fact, those who do not believe in the Hereafter name the angels as women in naming!

43/19: And the angels who are the servants of God, the Merciful. They considered them women [and daughters of God]! Were they present at the time of their creation? His testimony will be written soon. And they will be asked?
40/17: Have you considered that your Lord has given you sons? And he hath taken from the angels daughters, verily you say a great word. (You are telling a big lie)
We must avoid superstitions. Fill our minds with beautiful content.
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How did God make humans?

Just answer that please.
 
Thor 2 said:
One of my favourite questions to the faithful - be they Islamic, Christian, or other.

"How and why did God make flawed humans after making perfect angels."
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Isn't the fantasy Devil character an imperfect fantasy angel (in the fantasy story)?
 
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IanS said:
How did God make humans?

Just answer that please.
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Well and to add to that, why did a god make humans so badly?
Really from both a medical and a genetic standpoint the 'creation' of humans barely rates a 2 out of 10 and then only because they work.
Give me divine powers and I can do better.
 
MarkCorrigan said:
The Quran is not beautiful, it is hateful and filled with violence and cruelty.
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Hi. MarkCorrigan. Do not think childish. Regards and Thanks. Do you know that the Qur'an knows your logic well? And he said: Answer the ignorant with greetings. Hi
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Lothian said:
or real.
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Exactly. its true. Angels are power and energy. Do energies and forces have five senses? No. Do they have intellect? No. They only carry out their mission according to the given plan. Let's not get caught up in superstitions. These are just the energies and forces placed in the universe.
 
wea said:
Funny, in my language (Italian) "discussions become pointless" translates to "discutere sul sesso degli angeli" (debate the sex of angels).

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Hello. Welcome to our discussion. This is not a discussion of my beliefs. I know the angels. These are just the energies and forces of the universe. My answer for gender was for friends who did not know. I said to make it clear to them. And do not be caught up in superstitions. Thanks
:):)
 
heydarian saeed said:
Exactly. its true. Angels are power and energy. Do energies and forces have five senses? No. Do they have intellect? No. They only carry out their mission according to the given plan. Let's not get caught up in superstitions. These are just the energies and forces placed in the universe.
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No, there is no mission or plan, that is just superstitious nonsense. As is the stupid idea that energies and forces were 'placed' by someone or something. Grow up and leave childish stories behind you.
 
Thor 2 said:
One of my favourite questions to the faithful - be they Islamic, Christian, or other.

"How and why did God make flawed humans after making perfect angels."
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Hello. Welcome to our discussion. In the logic of the Qur'an and the word of God: the term "creation" is for man. The term "insert" is used for angels. The purpose of the creation of the universe by the command of God is to create "life" for man. The energies and forces (angels) are perfect. They are just the basis of human life. To serve man by the command of God. Let me prepare an article on this. I will upload it for you when it is ready. wait. Thanks
 
Hello everyone
I have already told you the fate of the universe in verses 11 to 31 of Sura 74. In the following
I will tell you verses 13 to 17 of Sura 69:
Translation:
"When it is before the Day of Judgment, an event will be imposed on the earth. Which is the beginning of the gathering of the universe. Fragmentation and becoming its smallest structural unit from which it can no longer be smaller. And is stable. Which are the same as photons. And space splits. That is, the bond of gravitational force that held the structure of space in place weakens.


Gravity loses its force. And the space is compressed. And collapses. This day is called the beginning of the Day of Judgment. And the angels (forces and energies) merge. And are excluded from the material world. And leave the universe. And God's management is based on eight components. In this case, hell is ruled by the number eight (elementary particles). " This is what quantum physics is called. All forces and energies (angels) are combined.
We must first know where this sovereignty is in the management of God over eight in the universe. It is at this time that the smallest unit of our material structure is placed on the elementary particles. And we are back to cosmic expansion. That is, into the expansion zone where the fire is hot. The position of the governing particles based on the eight quark models is as follows.
The first group consists of electrons and electron positrons (electron positrons) and the lower quark and the upper quark, which are four particles. And each has its own counterpart. Which become eight basic particles.
The second group of muons, the neutrino muons (muon positrons) and the charm quark, the amazing quark, which are also four particles. And with them become eight particles.
The third group of towns, towns of neutrinos, quarks of the head and quarks of the bottom, which again become four particles. And with them become eight particles. In this range, the throne of God is on eight. God's plan for the creation of matter is in Planck within the eighth component.
Surely the promise of all of them (all human beings, whether believers or infidels) is in Hell. And on it are seven doors of all the doors in which they are divided into parts. Every fundamental particle is a door to the material world. And in the verse, he has stated the door as a divided part.
 
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