Cont: Jogging in Georgia while black - The Trial

Warp12 said:
Yeah, that's how discussion forums work. Everyone just looks everything up on Google for themselves. I guess that means you have no real response to the question posed.
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No, discussion forums don't work by everyone just asking questions lol. Seriously, you need this explained to you? That's what you think it is? Just a circle jerk of everyone asking questions, but not doing any research.

Like I said, my response is, look it up yourself and let us know. No one owes you their time to look **** up. Good luck.
 
JoeMorgue said:
So your snarky little reference to a totally different case was...

Oh who the **** cares, you won't answer honestly anyway.
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Nothing snarky about it. In both cases juries looked at the evidence, heard the arguments and made the right decision. Deal with it.
 
Hell, I'm thinking I'll send the elder McMichael a taunting postcard in a couple weeks. Do your part to twist the knife.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Hard to blame the guy. In an ideal world he would have had the discipline to contain himself until the end so he could do a touchdown dance on the rubble that is these 3 murderers' lives, but it's really hard to imagine the immense relief he must have felt in the moment knowing that the man who killed his son will be held to account.

It's been a long road to get justice here, I hope the family and community can mourn the lost life appropriately now.
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I don't blame the father for his outburst or the Judge asking him to leave because of it and I don't think this creates too much of a paradox.
 
plague311 said:
No, discussion forums don't work by everyone just asking questions lol. Seriously, you need this explained to you? That's what you think it is? Just a circle jerk of everyone asking questions, but not doing any research.

Like I said, my response is, look it up yourself and let us know. No one owes you their time to look **** up. Good luck.
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Its called discussion. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people here who follow those aspects much more closely than I do. I've seen a number comment about things they have seen on far-right forums.
 
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Skeptic Tank said:
Right, because they should be.

The police and DA had seen that video. They had seen all the evidence. They determined that no crime was committed.

It actually should be illegal for charges to be brought after such a determination, under a modified double jeopardy principle.
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So your position is that once any corrupt or incompetent prosecutor declines to file charges, no one else at any level of government should be able take a second look? Do you really want to invest such unlimited, unchallenged power in some local, often elected, prosecutor? Keep in mind that the prosecutor is now facing her own felony charges.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/prosecutor-indicted-misconduct-ahmaud-arbery-death-79797816


Skeptic Tank said:
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This one had no racism or race hatred. These men identified a known prowler / burglar who'd been coming around, and tried to confront him and hold him until the police arrived. That's called good citizenship. They got attacked and nearly killed by the violent, unthinking brute for their trouble.

They eliminated him and that is fantastic.
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He committed no crime, and the good ol' boys had no reason to believe he did. They had no legal or moral right to confront him, let alone kill him. And you're telling us all we need to know about your ilk when you say it was "fantastic" that they "eliminated him."
 
Warp12 said:
Its called discussion. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people here who follow those aspects much more closely than I do. I've seen a number comment about things they have seen on far-right forums.
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Good, I don't care what the right wing doorknobs are doing. Hopefully they all spontaneously combust from the hate at seeing a bunch of racist bitch titties getting thrown in prison for doing something they feel should be able to do themselves.
 
Skeptic Tank said:
Right, because they should be.

The police and DA had seen that video. They had seen all the evidence. They determined that no crime was committed.

It actually should be illegal for charges to be brought after such a determination, under a modified double jeopardy principle. Clearly that modification is needed now, because we've had multiple instances now of an initial determination being made that no crime was committed, and suddenly a "crime" is located after CNN and MSNBC and Twitter become aware of it.

That is fundamentally illegitimate. It's mob rule. It's the rule of emotion.
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That's right. ZOG is ruining the lives of proud white heroes and there's nothing that can be done about it. Cry salty, salty tears.
 
Skeptic Tank said:
Do you all feel that? You can see relief in the judge's face. There are a LOT of people feeling relief around the USA right now. Every police department in a city of any size, as well as business owners.

Atlanta police were talking about preparing for verdict earlier.

They all know, without a single doubt, that there is no fear of riots and destruction now.

That's how you know the verdict was wrong. That plus the 70 some days before they were ever charged. These facts are how you know they were charged for political / cowardice based reasons, and convicted for the same sorts of reasons.
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Could you please describe in detail your anger and frustration? I don't want to make this weird or anything but I'm totally getting into your pain on this.
 
Well done, jury.

I hadn't realized until a couple days ago that Greg and Roddie were charged with malice murder. That's seems to be stretching it. I think it is fair to find the not guilty on those charges. Not that it matters much.

Roddie was found not guilty on malice murder and not guilty on aggravated assault with a shotgun and therefore not guilty on the associated felony murder charge, but guilty on aggravated assault with a truck and the other charges, including the other felony murder charges. Again, that seems correct.
 
I'm halfway on that. It makes sense on a legal level but there's plenty of black people sitting in prison for murder because they were sitting in a getaway car while someone else murdered someone.

Again another one of those oh so important legal nuances that all over the table for white people and nowhere to be found for black people.
 
DevilsAdvocate said:
Well done, jury.

I hadn't realized until a couple days ago that Greg and Roddie were charged with malice murder. That's seems to be stretching it. I think it is fair to find the not guilty on those charges. Not that it matters much.

Roddie was found not guilty on malice murder and not guilty on aggravated assault with a shotgun and therefore not guilty on the associated felony murder charge, but guilty on aggravated assault with a truck and the other charges, including the other felony murder charges. Again, that seems correct.
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The AP link cited above explains that.
Unlike many states, Georgia doesn’t have degrees of murder, but instead has malice murder and felony murder. Neither requires prosecutors to prove an intent to kill.

Malice murder is when a person “unlawfully and with malice aforethought, either express or implied, causes the death of another human being.” No evidence of premeditation is required.

Express malice involves an intent to kill. Implied malice is when the there is “no considerable provocation” and the circumstances of the killing “show an abandoned and malignant heart,” which essentially means the person has acted with extreme recklessness even if there was no intent to kill, said Georgia State University law professor Russell Covey.
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https://apnews.com/article/ahmaud-a...hael-georgia-7558b86305d4c95d8e830b16bf19eeff
 
JoeMorgue said:
Now for the charges against Jackie Johnson for burying the case in the first place.
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Yep. I hope she joins them. I wish they could get that other DA as well, but it sounds like his actions will be considered discretion of his office.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Now for the charges against Jackie Johnson for burying the case in the first place.
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Res ipsa loquitur, the thing speaks for itself. I can't imagine what her defense will be when both sides will have to stipulate that there was viable murder case now.
 
JoeMorgue said:
I'm halfway on that. It makes sense on a legal level but there's plenty of black people sitting in prison for murder because they were sitting in a getaway car while someone else murdered someone.

Again another one of those oh so important legal nuances that all over the table for white people and nowhere to be found for black people.
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Maybe there could be an argument for Roddie had he just followed from a distance and observed. If his only connection to the case was a "false imprisonment" charge, he might have skated. The aggravated assault with his truck showed he was involved enough to earn the felony murder convictions.
 
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plague311 said:
For all but one of them, there really isn't much to add for their sentences really lol. The murder requires 30 years in prison before being eligible for parole and that's IF the judge gives them that eligibility. The Fed charges will just be for funsies at this point.
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Malice murder and felony murder are labeled separately, but they are really just two ways to commit murder. The text of the law just calls both of them murder. Same punishment.
 
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