Cont: Jogging in Georgia while black - The Trial

SuburbanTurkey said:
This one slipped past me, from Aug 31:

Defense won't be allowed to smear murder victim for unrelated prior history of petty criminal conduct.
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Yup, I made this same statement wrt letting in Rosenbaum's history in the Rittenhouse case. Unless it's directly related it's pretty much dismissed. Also, Ahmaud is not on trial.
 
"Whine... whine... but how will the jury understand our headspace of being scawwwwweeeeeeeeed foooooooooooooooorrrrrrrr ooouuuuuuuuuuurrrrr liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiivvvvveeeeessss...... from the black guy we were running down in pickup while brandishing shotguns."

Is Arbury's running speed still allowed to be discussed in court? Maybe he was running away from them so fast they were scared he would circumnavigate the globe and catch them by surprise from the rear.
 
JoeMorgue said:
"Whine... whine... but how will the jury understand our headspace of being scawwwwweeeeeeeeed foooooooooooooooorrrrrrrr ooouuuuuuuuuuurrrrr liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiivvvvveeeeessss...... from the black guy we were running down in pickup while brandishing shotguns."

Is Arbury's running speed still allowed to be discussed in court? Maybe he was running away from them so fast they were scared he would circumnavigate the globe and catch them by surprise from the rear.
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There's evidence that it can happen. Wallace West did it, and he's black!

Sure it was in a comic book, but that means nothing!
 
plague311 said:
Yup, I made this same statement wrt letting in Rosenbaum's history in the Rittenhouse case. Unless it's directly related it's pretty much dismissed. Also, Ahmaud is not on trial.
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On the plus side it would make good evidence of premeditation and prior planning on the part of the murderers to specifically murder him. If falls under the he needed killing defense as a total aside from self defense.
 
Jury selection starting today:

Jury selection could last two weeks or more. Arbery's father said he's praying for an impartial panel and a fair trial, saying Black crime victims too often have been denied justice.

“This is 2021, and it’s time for a change,” Marcus Arbery Sr. said in an interview. "We need to be treated equally and get fair justice as human beings, because we’ve been treated wrong so long.”

Before the selection process begins, Superior Court Judge Timothy Walmsley first planned to hold a morning hearing to address legal issues that must be resolved before the trial starts.
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https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/10/18/nation/jury-selection-start-trial-over-ahmaud-arberys-death/?camp=bg%3Abrief%3Arss%3Afeedly&rss_id=feedly_rss_brief&s_campaign=bostonglobe%3Asocialflow%3Atwitter
 
ponderingturtle said:
On the plus side it would make good evidence of premeditation and prior planning on the part of the murderers to specifically murder him. If falls under the he needed killing defense as a total aside from self defense.
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You'd somehow have to show that those bumbling dip ***** had any idea he was in trouble before. The fact is they would have confronted any individual had he fit their criteria: Black and on a property he didn't own.
 
It looks like the county ****** up the jury selection by giving jurors access to suppressed evidence.

The Georgia county court where the three alleged murderers of Ahmaud Arbery are on trial mistakenly exposed potential jurors to suppressed evidence, including the 25-year-old black jogger's mental health history, which a judge banned from the trial.

If any of the potential jurors see the suppressed evidence, they could be tossed from the jury pool, Vice News reported.

The evidence on the court's website also included how many times defendants Greg and Travis McMichael used their firearms as well as the Confederate flag vanity plate on the back of Travis McMichael's truck.
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No ruling as of yet on if it will be a mistrial or anything
 
plague311 said:
It looks like the county ****** up the jury selection by giving jurors access to suppressed evidence.



No ruling as of yet on if it will be a mistrial or anything
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I imagine it could delay the jury selection if the current pool is considered spoiled by the screw-up. Caution would seem the appropriate response rather than plowing ahead and risking a mistrial. Get a fresh crop in and start selection over.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
I imagine it could delay the jury selection if the current pool is considered spoiled by the screw-up. Caution would seem the appropriate response rather than plowing ahead and risking a mistrial. Get a fresh crop in and start selection over.
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I don't know how large their jury pool is but they sent out something like 600 requests for this jury pool. I would think that you could find 16 out of that 600 that haven't seen it. At this point they're moving ahead with jury selection.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Ah yes the defense is employing the cunning "Just don't let black people on the jury" tactic.

Defense strikes 11 of 12 potential black jurors.

https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/...tial-black-jurors/6DKE7VV2A5D2JJCRRLNVRXIFMY/
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Even that may not be enough. This is the same county that bounced the corrupt DA, now facing criminal charges for the coverup, at the next election.

I think that even an all-white Southern jury might find their way to convicting a lynch party.
 
The prosecution needs to play the defence's racism game - strike all but one white juror, and keep doing so until they run out of potential jurors in the pool.

"The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch"
-Capt Bart Mancuso (Sub Driver) "The Hunt for red October"
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
Even that may not be enough. This is the same county that bounced the corrupt DA, now facing criminal charges for the coverup, at the next election.

I think that even an all-white Southern jury might find their way to convicting a lynch party.
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I want to be optimistic but I'm not fully over the fact that they had totally and completely gotten away with it. Had the video not leaked it's 100% metaphysically certain not only would they have gotten away with it, we wouldn't even know the event happened.

That's a lot of swamp to clear to get to a viable fair verdict.
 
JoeMorgue said:
I want to be optimistic but I'm not fully over the fact that they had totally and completely gotten away with it. Had the video not leaked it's 100% metaphysically certain not only would they have gotten away with it, we wouldn't even know the event happened.

That's a lot of swamp to clear to get to a viable fair verdict.
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Yeah, if some good ole boy DA is going to sweep a lynching under the rug for you, destroying your amateur snuff film is probably the least bit of gratitude that is owed.

Luckily these bloodthirsty freaks wanted to brag about their daylight murder, because you're right, they 100% got away with it until the video dropped.
 
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