The supernatural

[Scorpion]

Sure. In this surah, he says 4 verses related to the comet and its collision with the earth. I have said before that it also refers to a neutron star. This is one of the similar verses. Which has different meanings and interpretations. It tells both the neutron star and the comet and its impact on Earth. pay attention.
86/1-3 - 86/11

I have already explained that verses 86.1 to 86.3 are referring to a planet, possible Venus, that Muhammad thought was a bright star. These verses certainly do not refer to a neutron star.

As for verse 86.11 it seems to be referring to water

Surah 86.11 Khalifa

By the sky that returns (the water).

Surah 86.11 Pickthall

By the heaven which giveth the returning rain,


Surah 86.11 Shakir

I swear by the rain-giving heavens,

Surah 86.11 Sherali

By the cloud which gives rain repeatedly,

Surah 86.11 Yusuf Ali

By the Firmament which returns (in its round),

 

[Scorpion]

The chakra is mentioned in six verses. 64/18 - 59/22 - 91 / 7-10 and also recited 13 surahs to strengthen the chakra. Surahs: 4-9-11-14-22-31-36-40-41-95-97-105-106. Also, our worships as Muslims: prayer, ablution, ghusl, reciting the call to prayer, reciting the Qur'an, all of these worships confirm the chakras of the body. And strengthens it. Especially prostration, which perfectly strengthens the body chakras. And depletes the body of negative energies and on the other hand increases the positive energies of the body.

Surah 64.18 'Knower of what is hidden and what is open'

Surah 59.22 Allah is he than whom there is no other God-
Who knows (all things) both secret and open.

Surah 91.7 By the soul and the proportion and order give to it

These verses say nothing abut the chakras, except in your zany interpretations.


I have looked through surah's 105 and 106 and there is absolutely nothing about the chakras. I expect it is the same with all the other chakras you mention without giving the verse numbers.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

Hi. No one but God can insert the soul into the fetus. Neither I nor you nor anyone else. The soul is from God. I told the works of the soul that when it enters the fetus, the perception of the fetus begins. Before the soul enters the fetus, it is just a piece of meat. you understood?

OK, you're sticking with goddidit, so please stop using words like "science" as that one is about as anti-scientific an argument as there is.

 

[IanS]

I recently read all the posts you brought. And I'm glad we're together on this. 1 The name of a comet or asteroid does not appear in the Qur'an.

I mentioned the name that NASA mentioned on these sites. This name is not in the Quran.

2 It is generally said that this collision will happen in the near future.
I also asked all of you to think about this danger in the future. And think about safety and health measures.

. 3 And its time, month and hour are also mentioned in Islam Well you do not want me to say. let's move on. Good luck.

Re 1 - ha, ha, … indeed I'm sure that the name of the asteroid does not appear in the Koran! ; everyone here knew that before you ever said anything at all. Because the writer of the Koran knew nothing at all about any such asteroid!

They knew nothing at all about any "asteroid" or any "comet" ... they did not know what an asteroid or a comet was!

And everyone here except you, can be quite sure that there was no description of that asteroid hitting the Earth in 2068 or at any other time!

Re.2 - if the Koran was written around 600AD then the 21st century would hardly have been the "near future"! So any words like that would have been completely wrong anyway. But also you just claimed that “According to NASA studies, in 2022-2032-2028-2029-2036-2068 the comet Apophis may hit the Earth. And 2068 is more likely. And it will have very dangerous consequences. Millions are killed. Millions will be deaf. Millions will go crazy. And many cities will be destroyed. Please think well“ … but as I just showed you, NASA claimed no such thing, and on the contrary it actually says the asteroid will definitely not collide with the Earth on any such dates … so would you now like to admit that your claim about this “comet” was wrong?


Re. 3 – I bet your Koran does not correctly predict any hour, day or date when a future comet will such comet will hit the Earth … apparently you had learned from the Koran that his “comet” Apophis would probably hit the Earth in 2068, but as you now know from the link I gave to NASA, your belief is entirely wrong!!

By all means, please quote what you have from the Koran that predicts any such comet hitting the Earth, and then we can all have another good laugh at what an utter load of childish nonsense your religious book & it's beliefs are .

But I bet you come up with nothing more than the most vague and useless of sentences saying something like “ Allah will send a falling star to destroy the “kufr” “

 

[Scorpion]

Re 1

But I bet you come up with nothing more than the most vague and useless of sentences saying something like “ Allah will send a falling star to destroy the “kufr” “

I have not seen any verse anything like that in the Quran, and I read it all through three times. The closest verse in the Quran is that it says the stars are missiles to throw at devils. I have also shown that Heydarian makes entirely unrealistic claims for many verses in the Quran, and he takes no notice of having these things pointed out to him.

 

[heydarian saeed]

I have not seen any verse anything like that in the Quran, and I read it all through three times. The closest verse in the Quran is that it says the stars are missiles to throw at devils. I have also shown that Heydarian makes entirely unrealistic claims for many verses in the Quran, and he takes no notice of having these things pointed out to him.

Hi. You have not read the Qur'an carefully. See 37/10.
When demons in heaven seek to hear and steal the message of revelation, God says we pursue and hunt them with a shining meteor. And we keep the revelation. pay attention. Translated by Yousef Ali: Except for those who steal something secretly and follow it with a blazing flame and intense radiance.

 

[heydarian saeed]

Please read the facts of the Quran:
Quran and the expansion of time
It is very strange that Muslims use another equation to show the expansion of time, to show that angels accelerate at the speed of light.
The Qur'an states in one verse that apparently time passes less for angels at a constant speed than for humans.
This is true of Einstein's special relativity. Where, at high speeds, time passes more slowly for objects at that speed.
Muslims have used Einstein's special relativity and this verse to support the fact that angels are in fact accelerating at the speed of light.
Verse 4 of Surah Ma'arij: "The angels and the spirits ascend to Him in one day. This day is equivalent to fifty thousand years for man" (70/4)
Here the angels spend a day equivalent to fifty thousand years for man. (Time vs. time, not time vs. distance)
However, according to Einstein's special theory of relativity, and by these changes the time (time delays) obtained as a claim from Muslims (that those angels really accelerate at the speed of light) can be acknowledged or denied.
This claim can be confirmed in two minutes, then there will be no need for blind beliefs.
Albert Einstein was not a Muslim but a Jew who proposed the famous theory of special relativity. The faster the speed, the slower time passes. He fully accepted the Qur'an of the Muslims. And he says: The Qur'an is not a book of algebra or geometry. It is a set of laws that guide mankind to the right path, the path that the world's greatest philosophers and scientists are unable to define. ...

 

[heydarian saeed]

... Outside of a gravitational field, time is as follows:
∆t= ∆t0/ (1-v^2/c^2) ^0.5
Where ∆t0 is the time equivalent to the moving by moving.
∆t It is the time equivalent to a stationary passage for a mobile.
V It is the velocity attributed to the station control.
∆t0 It is a time that passes for the angels. (One day)
∆t It is a time equivalent to time for humans. (Fifty thousand lunar years in twelve lunar months per lunar year at 27.321661 days per lunar month)
And V is the speed of the angels in this case. (Which we intend to calculate and compare with the known speed of light). The speed of light in a vacuum is 299792.458 km / s.
From the above equation we can calculate that unknown velocity:
v=c (1-∆t0 ^2/∆t^2) ^0.5
Now it is better to replace the statements of Muslims in the equation and see if the angels of Muslims really accelerate to the speed of light or not?
We substitute the digits of the verse in this equation:
v =c (1-(1^2/(50000*12*27.321661)^2))^0.5
v = c * 0.99999999999999981
v = 299792.4579999994 km / s
This temporal dilation (temporal variation) indicates that angels are accelerating at the speed of light outside gravitational fields. (Slightly slower than the speed of light because they have mass)
This can not be an accident because the calculated velocity is exactly the same as the previous lunar verse. It is also outside a gravitational field.
Muslims always ask how an illiterate man 14 centuries ago was able to achieve the expansion of time and the core of relativity ?! Yes. he can not. Rather, God has told him. So the Qur'an is the word of God.
Source: : http://www.speed-light.info

 

[heydarian saeed]

The miracle of the Qur'an is that it has no counterpart. And is unique. At all times and in all places. And if you do not believe in the Qur'an, you will never understand it. And you will only deny it. God is patient. And has given you respite. Think well.

 

[heydarian saeed]

OK, you're sticking with goddidit, so please stop using words like "science" as that one is about as anti-scientific an argument as there is.

Hi.Exactly. And as I said before: Science is in accordance with the Qur'an. And the Qur'an is the basis of all sciences. And is the source of all science.
And there is no doubt about that.

 

[Mojo]

The miracle of the Qur'an is that it has no counterpart.

Apart from all the other “holy books”.

 

[IanS]

Hi. You have not read the Qur'an carefully. See 37/10.
When demons in heaven seek to hear and steal the message of revelation, God says we pursue and hunt them with a shining meteor. And we keep the revelation. pay attention. Translated by Yousef Ali: Except for those who steal something secretly and follow it with a blazing flame and intense radiance.

The translation of that verse, which you just gave yourself was to say “ Except for those who steal something secretly and follow it with a blazing flame and intense radiance” … that says absolutely noting about any “Meteor” … on the contrary it is, as I just said to you above, a sentence so completely vague that anyone could claim that it might mean absolutely anything! … you might as well have claimed that it was predicting a modern light bulb or a gas cooker!

 

[Mojo]

The translation of that verse, which you just gave yourself was to say “ Except for those who steal something secretly and follow it with a blazing flame and intense radiance” … that says absolutely noting about any “Meteor” … on the contrary it is, as I just said to you above, a sentence so completely vague that anyone could claim that it might mean absolutely anything! … you might as well have claimed that it was predicting a modern light bulb or a gas cooker!

And shooting stars are not a discovery of “modern science”.

 

[Scorpion]

Hi. You have not read the Qur'an carefully. See 37/10.
When demons in heaven seek to hear and steal the message of revelation, God says we pursue and hunt them with a shining meteor. And we keep the revelation. pay attention. Translated by Yousef Ali: Except for those who steal something secretly and follow it with a blazing flame and intense radiance.

The verse I referred to is 67.5 which states the heaven is adorned with lamps and these lamps are missiles to throw at the evil ones.

Muhammad was referring to the stars and calls them lamps, and that's all he knew about anything.

 

[Scorpion]

Please read the facts of the Quran:
Quran and the expansion of time
It is very strange that Muslims use another equation to show the expansion of time, to show that angels accelerate at the speed of light.
The Qur'an states in one verse that apparently time passes less for angels at a constant speed than for humans.
This is true of Einstein's special relativity. Where, at high speeds, time passes more slowly for objects at that speed.
Muslims have used Einstein's special relativity and this verse to support the fact that angels are in fact accelerating at the speed of light.
Verse 4 of Surah Ma'arij: "The angels and the spirits ascend to Him in one day. This day is equivalent to fifty thousand years for man" (70/4)
Here the angels spend a day equivalent to fifty thousand years for man. (Time vs. time, not time vs. distance)
However, according to Einstein's special theory of relativity, and by these changes the time (time delays) obtained as a claim from Muslims (that those angels really accelerate at the speed of light) can be acknowledged or denied.
This claim can be confirmed in two minutes, then there will be no need for blind beliefs.
Albert Einstein was not a Muslim but a Jew who proposed the famous theory of special relativity. The faster the speed, the slower time passes. He fully accepted the Qur'an of the Muslims. And he says: The Qur'an is not a book of algebra or geometry. It is a set of laws that guide mankind to the right path, the path that the world's greatest philosophers and scientists are unable to define. ...

Verse 70.4 is referring only to judgement day, Also the Quran says one of Gods days is as a thousand years to us.

Not to mention that if it takes the angels fifty thousand years to visit us Gabriel would never have been able to give a message of the coming of Jesus then get back up to heaven, and come down again in time to give messages to Muhammad

 

[IanS]

... Outside of a gravitational field, time is as follows:
∆t= ∆t0/ (1-v^2/c^2) ^0.5
Where ∆t0 is the time equivalent to the moving by moving.
∆t It is the time equivalent to a stationary passage for a mobile.
V It is the velocity attributed to the station control.
∆t0 It is a time that passes for the angels. (One day)
∆t It is a time equivalent to time for humans. (Fifty thousand lunar years in twelve lunar months per lunar year at 27.321661 days per lunar month)
And V is the speed of the angels in this case. (Which we intend to calculate and compare with the known speed of light). The speed of light in a vacuum is 299792.458 km / s.
From the above equation we can calculate that unknown velocity:
v=c (1-∆t0 ^2/∆t^2) ^0.5
Now it is better to replace the statements of Muslims in the equation and see if the angels of Muslims really accelerate to the speed of light or not?
We substitute the digits of the verse in this equation:
v =c (1-(1^2/(50000*12*27.321661)^2))^0.5
v = c * 0.99999999999999981
v = 299792.4579999994 km / s
This temporal dilation (temporal variation) indicates that angels are accelerating at the speed of light outside gravitational fields. (Slightly slower than the speed of light because they have mass)
This can not be an accident because the calculated velocity is exactly the same as the previous lunar verse. It is also outside a gravitational field.
Muslims always ask how an illiterate man 14 centuries ago was able to achieve the expansion of time and the core of relativity ?! Yes. he can not. Rather, God has told him. So the Qur'an is the word of God.
Source: : http://www.speed-light.info

What on Earth did you ever think was the point of you reproducing the above? It's clearly some idiotic IJAZ nonsense that you have copied, and the link that you gave does not work!

The descriptions given after each symbol are so badly translated as to be completely unintelligible.

You are clearly not a mathematician, so please stop writing as if pretending to understand the stuff.

I suspect what you have there is something very much like the barking mad religious fanatic I'Jaz twaddle presented in the Islamic religious post below -


https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/speed-light-time-explained-quran-part-4-mahmoud-muhammad-ibrihim


But we do not need to get into any such maths stuff here, because the plain fact is that none of that is mentioned anywhere at all in your idiotic old magical book of religious fanaticism.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

Hi.Exactly. And as I said before: Science is in accordance with the Qur'an. And the Qur'an is the basis of all sciences. And is the source of all science.
And there is no doubt about that.

Just plain NO: the origins of science are well known to precede the Koran; no "holy books" of any sort formed any part of my science degree and I strongly suspect the same will be true for every other poster here who has a science degree.

For me the likes of Arthur Tansley or Arthur Holmes are far more important, even Arthur Willis, but not so many folk have heard of him (pupil of Tansley's who was Professor of Botany at Sheffield when I was there), so I will now declare that Arthurs are the basis of plenty of science!

 

[Little 10 Toes]

Hi.Exactly. And as I said before: Science is in accordance with the Qur'an. And the Qur'an is the basis of all sciences. And is the source of all science.
And there is no doubt about that.

Yet you avoid the truth. There is no muddy pool that the sun rests and stars are not "missiles" for "demons" to throw.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

You're still not understanding.

You have made a CLAIM that the foetus starts moving when god puts a soul in. You've provided absolutely no evidence for this, you're just making the same claim over and over again. We are rejecting your claim. You are simply making it up. The soul isn't real. There are no such things as souls. They don't exist.

Provide EVIDENCE of a soul and we will listen. You obviously cannot do this.




Liar. I and others have pointed out that your so-called "4 logical arguments" are not logical at all. They are in fact logical fallacies. Do you understand what special pleading is? Do you understand why this is fatal to your claim that your arguments are logical?

Stop handwaving away the correct objections to your nonsense and deal with said objections. The longer you do this the less it seems like this is a misunderstanding or issue with language and the more it seems like you're being dishonest.

Please deal with this Heydarian.

 

[IanS]

Hi.Exactly. And as I said before: Science is in accordance with the Qur'an. And the Qur'an is the basis of all sciences. And is the source of all science.
And there is no doubt about that.

Well, indeed, and that's what everyone here has put to you countless times, i.e. as you just admit there yourself in the highlight; these are all things that you merely "say", you are preaching your beliefs ...

.... in every post here, all that you have is what you believe about the words of Koarn ... the words do not not actually say any of things you have claimed, but as your highlight admits, you are just claiming as your personal belief that the words mean something entirely different from what the actually say.

There is nothing about modern science in the Koran. The Koran describes not one single thing that we have discovered through modern science ... it never mentions/explains anything about any comets, asteroids, black holes, dark matter, neutron stars, relativity, the big bang or any of the fantastic miracle claims that fill every post that you write ...

... every post of course is, sad to say, filled instead with untruths from start to finish. And you appear to have no concern about that ... you have no interest in what is true in this world vs what is untrue ... and you are so besotted by your your ridiculous infantile religion (Christianity is no better of course), that you are completely unwilling ever to study real science and to learn how and why we understand the world around us, and how and why that is all in complete conflict with the claims of ancient religion of the kind you keep preaching here.

It does not matter to me if you live your life in a fantasy of religious superstitions. Except of course that such beliefs ultimately become extremely dangerous.