EU warns Putin about German Elections....

Because there is a difference between interfering in elections and said interference having any effect.
Russia is trying hard but often getting nowhere in the Estonia and Lithuania, for example.
Germany is not about to become 'The smallest ******* province in the Russian Empire, that's what!'
 
Given the lack of evidence for any attempts to influence the election by Russia (or any other foreign agency) I find this thread highly speculative...

In any case, if Vlad did actually try something, he kinda missed the mark. Both the Greens and the FDP who are the biggest winners of the election called for a stop of the pipeline project in March...
 
ZeeGerman said:
Given the lack of evidence for any attempts to influence the election by Russia (or any other foreign agency) I find this thread highly speculative...

In any case, if Vlad did actually try something, he kinda missed the mark. Both the Greens and the FDP who are the biggest winners of the election called for a stop of the pipeline project in March...
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Evidance or not, Youtube banned RT-Deutsch and Der Fehlende Part channels a day or two ago. Which they can do if they want, but for which Russia has laws against. Could lead to huge fines or even banning of Youtube in Russia and a lot of whining and further parrot threads (see ANTI-SPIEGEL).

btw, they banned my 15 years old Youtube channel today as well, which I started to share a news video here on the forum and which had a few dozen of very obscure videos and less than 200 followers. I appealed, and I have an idea why it got deleted (no explanation, no "strikes"), but if it is what I suspect it is it is beyond laughable (the only reason I can think of, last upload many months ago).
 
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Just a bit of review, the terrible SPD direct candidate (no, it's not Karl Lauterbach) won by a landslide despite the first vote of my life for the CDU.

My party dieBasis did worse than I've expected, failing to reach the 5% by more than I've expected. 1.6%, that is a gruesome outcome given the creeping fascism that we as you witness in the last one-and-a-half years, but it still is 700.000 people. This is no Alex Jones Brownshirt fringe movement, and nobody ever understanding what we are dealing with is ever going back (for you, Oystein, it's a mockumentary). I've known for a long time that in the final situation pseudo-skeptics will collapse over the mountain of lies while I will sit aside not even feeling like a winner, because it is so tragic.
 
You are getting awfully close to mad villain territory here, CE:
"THEY ALL DOUBTED ME!!! BUT ThEY WILL SEE HOW WRONG ThEY WERE ! I'LL SHOW ThEM! I'LL SHOW ThEM ALL!
[Manic laughter]
 
Childlike Empress said:
Just a bit of review, the terrible SPD direct candidate (no, it's not Karl Lauterbach) won by a landslide despite the first vote of my life for the CDU.

My party dieBasis did worse than I've expected, failing to reach the 5% by more than I've expected. 1.6%, that is a gruesome outcome given the creeping fascism that we as you witness in the last one-and-a-half years, but it still is 700.000 people. This is no Alex Jones Brownshirt fringe movement, and nobody ever understanding what we are dealing with is ever going back (for you, Oystein, it's a mockumentary). I've known for a long time that in the final situation pseudo-skeptics will collapse over the mountain of lies while I will sit aside not even feeling like a winner, because it is so tragic.
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If (and I don't know, so just if) you seriously believed that dieBasis had even the remotest chance of getting anywhere near 5%, you might take that as reason to pause and ponder how detached from reality your perception of the world is right now.
 
ZeeGerman said:
If (and I don't know, so just if) you seriously believed that dieBasis had even the remotest chance of getting anywhere near 5%, you might take that as reason to pause and ponder how detached from reality your perception of the world is right now.
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#6, ZeeGerman. Pay attention. The alternative would have been to not vote at all.
 
So can we at least agree among us Germans, ZeeGerman, Oystein and me that the thought that "Putin" manipulates our votes is ridiculous? I think that what manipulates our votes is the media cartel, trans-atlanticly influenced, and those other Germans here are victims to the propaganda.
 
Childlike Empress said:
So can we at least agree among us Germans, ZeeGerman, Oystein and me that the thought that "Putin" manipulates our votes is ridiculous? I think that what manipulates our votes is the media cartel, trans-atlanticly influenced, and those other Germans here are victims to the propaganda.
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I agree to the highlighted part. The rest, not so much... Call me an optimist, but I still believe that that most people are capable and informed enough to make halfway autonomous decisions. Of course the media play significant role in informing those decisions, but that's exactly what they exist for. And you overestimate the "cartel" factor (whatever you mean by that).
 
ZeeGerman said:
I agree to the highlighted part. The rest, not so much... Call me an optimist, but I still believe that that most people are capable and informed enough to make halfway autonomous decisions. Of course the media play significant role in informing those decisions, but that's exactly what they exist for. And you overestimate the "cartel" factor (whatever you mean by that).
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You still should watch the mentioned mockumentary. It is so hard on the edge of the "conversation" that many people in the "conspiracy movement" made a big fuss about it. I also felt for it, almost, if it weren't for Agent 00 Bielefeld at 11:30.
 
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Ok, I watched it (ok, most of it) ...
So?
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So that tells you how "the media" sells a fake reality. These guys turned it on themselves and many of their followers bought it because they are so used to these methods. But of course it was all BS. Nobody who looked behind the curtain will ever go back. On the other hand, you can't wake up someone who only pretends to be asleep.
 
dudalb said:
No promises of consquences if he does interfere, just waving their finger at him.
Boy, that is effective. That will sure scare Vlad.
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Waving their finger at him is still doing a whole heck of a lot more than the Trump admin did against Russian interference in the US election, or against Putin putting bounties on US soldiers. In international diplomacy it is often not such a great idea to start warnings with threats.

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Power outages grind an economy to a halt even faster than rising debt.
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If Germany can't generate enough power on its own, it can always buy some from the French. It is not as if Germany giving up on its own nuclear generation, that it is suddenly disconnected from all atomic power. Running low on natural gas may be annoying for some Germans using it for heating and cooking, though. Induction cooking and passivhauses for the win!
 
Youtube just denied my appeal without an explanation. As expected. I've therefore deleted my associated Google-Account. I can watch cat videos on Odysee as well.
 
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If Germany can't generate enough power on its own, it can always buy some from the French. It is not as if Germany giving up on its own nuclear generation, that it is suddenly disconnected from all atomic power.
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Yup. The height of hypocrisy. But I assure you we will save the earth's climate by ... just being good.
 
Childlike Empress said:
So that tells you how "the media" sells a fake reality. These guys turned it on themselves and many of their followers bought it because they are so used to these methods. But of course it was all BS. Nobody who looked behind the curtain will ever go back. On the other hand, you can't wake up someone who only pretends to be asleep.
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You know that you were supposed to only take one Red Pill, right?
 
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