Rumours about a Canadian election!

[attempt5001]

Thanks for the info and links Jimbo. I wonder if the results will take longer to come in this year due the fewer polling stations (and therefore more votes to count at each) or if they still have the same number of staff to divide the counting between.

 

[Segnosaur]

And now, the Green Party, in an attempt to be taken seriously, is following in the footsteps of the Conservatives, Liberals and NDP and losing a candidate....

From: CBC
Michael Lariviere has withdrawn as the Green Party of Canada candidate for Renfrew-Nipissing-Pembroke...The Green Party of Canada says their candidate...won't represent them if elected because of comments he made while campaigning....A debate...shows Lariviere answering a question about efforts to encourage people to get a COVID-19 vaccine by suggesting proof-of-vaccination systems are the first step toward Nazism.

Strong conservative riding, so he wouldn't have had a chance there anyways.

 

[Horatius]

Thanks for the info and links Jimbo. I wonder if the results will take longer to come in this year due the fewer polling stations (and therefore more votes to count at each) or if they still have the same number of staff to divide the counting between.

I saw something a couple of weeks ago that they expect counting the mail-in votes to take longer than we're used to, since they expected a lot more of them, and they don't start counting them until sometime today (I think after the polls close, but I'm not sure).

So we might not know the winner for a day or two yet.

 

[Segnosaur]

I saw something a couple of weeks ago that they expect counting the mail-in votes to take longer than we're used to, since they expected a lot more of them, and they don't start counting them until sometime today (I think after the polls close, but I'm not sure).

So we might not know the winner for a day or two yet.

According to polls, the Liberals probably have more support through mail-in ballots than the Conservatives. So, you could see situations where a lot of seats flip from Conservative to Liberal over the evening.

 

[Jimbo07]

First polls have closed... still too early to call

 

[Horatius]

Just after 11PM, time for bed, looks like it's pretty much status quo on the government.

So, what are we going to call this one? The Spinning Our Wheels Election? Not pithy enough, though accurate.

 

[Jimbo07]

Just after 11PM, time for bed, looks like it's pretty much status quo on the government.

So, what are we going to call this one? The Spinning Our Wheels Election? Not pithy enough, though accurate.

Don't know yet. At the time of this posting he's up a seat. We may have to wait until morning. I'd be amused if he wound up exactly back where he started!

 

[Blue Mountain]

Don't know yet. At the time of this posting he's up a seat. We may have to wait until morning. I'd be amused if he wound up exactly back where he started!

We'll likely get another Liberal minority government, which is all right by me. In my opinion, minority governments in Canada are good, because the the smaller parties can pull rug out from under the prime minister if he/she steps too far out of line. Also, the smaller parties are still relatively sane; it's not like Trudeau is going to have to rely on the Pol Pot Wannabe party to stay in power.

Down side: another election in two or three years.

 

[Segnosaur]

So, what are we going to call this one? The Spinning Our Wheels Election? Not pithy enough, though accurate.

The "Seemed like a good idea at the time" election?

 

[catsmate]

Liberal minority government seems likely.
Liberals gain perhaps three seats (not all confirmed as yet), a few more independents.

 

[Horatius]

The "Seemed like a good idea at the time" election?

But did anyone other than Trudeau actually think that?

He really dropped the ball in not framing this election as a referendum on the pandemic, though. There is enough legitimate opposition to pretty much all of the pandemic measures that he could legitimately make the case that he needed a clear mandate to stay the course. Why he didn't make that case from the beginning will be a question for the ages.

Instead, he started it off like it was any other campaign, which no one actually believed. It only really became about the pandemic when the wheels started coming off.

 

[Jimbo07]

But did anyone other than Trudeau actually think that?

It really was an unforced error. It seems to be a common theme with this particular brand of Liberal leadership (the blackface photo, the Mark Norman trial, JWR, etc.). These are all just gaffes. None of it needed to be the way it is.

 

[Segnosaur]

I saw something a couple of weeks ago that they expect counting the mail-in votes to take longer than we're used to, since they expected a lot more of them, and they don't start counting them until sometime today (I think after the polls close, but I'm not sure).

So we might not know the winner for a day or two yet.

Minor note:

From what I have seen, some mail-in ballots (for example from people living overseas) can be counted before the polls close, but ballots from people still living in the riding won't be counted until long after the polls close....

From: CTV News
...mail-in ballots cast from within a voter’s riding are subject to an ‘integrity check,’ which verifies that the outer envelope has been signed and that the voter has not also voted in person.... Because of the need for this verification, the counting of those votes will not begin until Tuesday at the earliest....Such checks are not needed for voters casting votes from other countries, or from incarcerated voters or members of the military, as there is no need to verify whether or not those voters also cast ballots in person....their ballots can be counted ahead of the polls closing....the counting process for mail-in ballots could take between two to five days to conclude.

So there you go... everything you needed to know about counting mail-in ballots.

 

[Segnosaur]

The "Seemed like a good idea at the time" election?

But did anyone other than Trudeau actually think that?

I don't think so.

But then, Trudeau was the one who was responsible for calling the election.

He really dropped the ball in not framing this election as a referendum on the pandemic, though. There is enough legitimate opposition to pretty much all of the pandemic measures that he could legitimately make the case that he needed a clear mandate to stay the course. Why he didn't make that case from the beginning will be a question for the ages.

I think that might have some risks if he made it about the pandemic...

Cases have been rising since mid-July. I don't necessarily fault The Hair for that, but saying "This is a referendum on how I handled the Pandemic" might get people thinking "But cases are on the increase.. should you be rewarded for that?"

Plus, he's already been criticized for calling an election in the middle of the pandemic. Last thing he wants to do is throw fuel on the fire.

 

[Jimbo07]

Just like the Federal Election, this thread has so failed to ignite excitement, follow-up, or even purpose, that I predict its demise before the end of page 3. If we were more than a half-dozen posts away, I'd even say page 2!

 

[dudalb]

How did the Alt Right parties in Canada do overall? Getting differeing reports on this in the US.

 

[Steve]

How did the Alt Right parties in Canada do overall? Getting differeing reports on this in the US.

Increased popular vote numbers, but no one close to being elected to parliament.

 

[dudalb]

Increased popular vote numbers, but no one close to being elected to parliament.

Canada might have two seperatist movements to deal with:The classic Quebec movement, and now the Western Seperatist movement.
But the good news, from what I have read, the Western seperatist hate the Quebecois, so their teaming up is a remote possiblity.

 

[Steve]

Canada might have two seperatist movements to deal with:The classic Quebec movement, and now the Western Seperatist movement.
But the good news, from what I have read, the Western seperatist hate the Quebecois, so their teaming up is a remote possiblity.

The Quebec French speaking separatists teaming up with English speaking separatists in the west is a non starter. Would completely contradict one of their main goals. Western separation is a fringe movement at best.

 

[Horatius]

Just like the Federal Election, this thread has so failed to ignite excitement, follow-up, or even purpose, that I predict its demise before the end of page 3. If we were more than a half-dozen posts away, I'd even say page 2!

Do you want me to spam the forum? Because that's how you get me to spam the forum!

Increased popular vote numbers, but no one close to being elected to parliament.

They did increase their numbers, but not nearly to the level a lot of people thought they would, based on polling numbers. Some people thought they might hit 10% of the vote, but they didn't seem to get above 8% anywhere, and significantly less than that in many places.

I opined elsewhere that they probably picked up a lot of votes from the anti-vaxx, anti-mask crowd, who either don't know about the PPC's other views, or didn't believe what they heard about them. Come the next election, I don't think they'll do even as well as they did this time. Once the pandemic BS is finally over with, their odious every day platform will probably lose them a lot of the support they gained.