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Texas bans abortion.

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The Great Zaganza said:
You are completely clueless about this.

At this stage, this suggests willful ignorance.
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I worked a lot of appreciating women over the years, and none of them got pregnant. Almost like we both took appropriate precautions. Go figure.

Personal accountability is a thing. Imagine that.
 
psionl0 said:
Neither of these answer the question. Who is this "manager" who has the right to dictate to women? And why do you regard women as lowly "fries cooks"?
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The manager would be the woman, obviously. Hence, her greater level of responsibility.
 
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This is the Great Problem with the abortion issue: when does an egg/sperm combo become a "human being? Science can't tell us because it's based on empirical evidence and repeatable results. But no zygote, embryo, or fetus can tell us anything. But religion 'can' because it's based solely on faith, what some "holy book" and/or religious leaders decide is true. And they can't even agree which is evidence that they don't know jack crap more than anyone else.

That a 'soul' exists is not based on any empirical evidence. There is nothing to test or observe. It's 100% a matter of belief. Some think our laws should be based on these religious beliefs even though they are not based on anything but belief and others may/do not agree with those beliefs. That is the ultimate conceit. This is what I believe; therefore you must live by my beliefs rather than your own. After all, I'm right!

My personal opinion is that a fetus is not a baby until it has a fully functioning brain and is viable. Until then, it is just in the process of becoming a baby just as a seed eventually become a flower. But the difference between me and the so called pro-life people is that I recognize that is MY belief and not necessarily THEIRS. But, unlike them, I would never tell a woman that she HAS to have an abortion. But, damn, they sure feel they have the right to tell others to live by their beliefs.
 
Every argument you can make why a fertilized egg should have the protection of a human because it's going to become a human you can also make of sperm.
 
Stacyhs said:
But the difference between me and the so called pro-life people is that I recognize that is MY belief and not necessarily THEIRS. But, unlike them, I would never tell a woman that she HAS to have an abortion. But, damn, they sure feel they have the right to tell others to live by their beliefs.
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I'm sure that pro-life people don't tell women that.
 
I just wonder how many turtles down it counts.

I mean, masturbation is technically killing thousands of potential human lives. Your body actually recycles sperm cells that aren't used (eventually), so if you aren't having sex often are you murdering potential humans?

Women release eggs every month during ovulation, are they committing murder if they don't get those fertilized?

This is essentially a question of drawing a line somewhere in a fuzzy process. Accusing someone of murder because they draw the line differently is, frankly, a blatant appeal to emotion and an admission of a lack of any rational argument.

ETA: And there's also spontaneous abortions that happen a lot more frequently than most realize....should those be charged? Negligent homicide, maybe?
 
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psionl0 said:
It's going to be hard if others want to engage:

The reality is that it is human from conception. No other living thing has the same DNA. The issue is whether it is sufficiently developed to have a right to live independently of the wishes of the carrier and that is largely a legal/technical issue.

As for the Texas law, it is symptomatic of the malaise that is inflicted on the US where the courts conspire to nullify the bill of rights using legal technicalities.
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It's a lost cause and it's stupid. We should know better than to engage in this trollish 'abortion is murder' crap. You will never convince an anti-science right-wing [let me guess] white male so why bother?

I hope folks give that nonsense up, ignore the trollish exchange and get back to the new stuff. The TX GOP is sorry what they wished for. They are great with slogans: outlaw abortion; repeal the ACA. But when they get what they wished for, whoops! That wasn't supposed to happen. :p
 
Stacyhs said:
But, unlike them, I would never tell a woman that she HAS to have an abortion. But, damn, they sure feel they have the right to tell others to live by their beliefs.
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Because, the concept of murdering a child by choice has nothing to do with being forced to do so? Trying to decode your riddle
 
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